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^ karma is not some kind of magic, it's when you realize everything is your making. Everything! The entire world.

your standards of pretty are totally fucked up, re assess.

Reading all the replies, it's painfully obvious the dating culture is utterly unnatural and stupid. But, it reminded me of this. Just be yourself, don't go on bitch-hunting/ man-hunting too much. You're practicing dishonesty.

If you think you need to pursue it, by all means, do it. Osho often used the analogy of celibate monks being perverted, because of repression. But that's not really true. If anything, they are making a true effort to go beyond it. Repressing is also part of the process. What about spiritual repression? You want to feel ONENESS, but you deny yourself that pleasure everytime. How is that a fair game? Infact, by saying you want material things before spiritual is utter stupidity. Because you're putting one above the other. Here, you're saying, spiritual things are secondary

Ever wondered what the default state of a person is? it's death. It's not activity. you are alive for let's say 100 years, what are you for the rest of the trillion years? Do you think you'll get to such a world by operating the same way the current world thinks?

Don't confuse the vision for the process, the vision is strictly a world where people "have" evolved, by whatever means necessary, it's more like the end result. The process is what I implied when I said, people are free to live on their level of development, for as long as necessary.

By this I also implied, people are free to live with their current level of development. But at the same time, I'm touching a very nuanced point here. The reason Spiral Dynamics is the way it is; all the stages and the different characteristics is precisely because of our past and current "environment" and "values". Spiral Dynamics will be totally different if humans took a different developmental path, then it wouldn't be human anymore. An alien species will have a totally different type of evolutionary path. I have no doubts that changing and evolving this current state is gonna require enormous amount of energy, to be precise, at least 3 times the energy of all those conditionings, it's not just the mind, it's everything we see around us, it's the lifestyle, the diseases, the media, books, all of the impact created by humans who are here currently and those who have come before us. We need 3 times more energy than all that combined, in the right direction to make it a reality. 2/5th of it is to destroy the current conditionings, rest is hopefully to build a new direction. But as this happens, humans will have turned into an entirely different species from what we know today. This is not something a small group of humans can achieve. Also, it's ugly, forcing humans into something else.. the resistance in humans will likely kill many in the process. Unless, there is a big threat which forces humans to evolve or die. And this, doesn't motivate me in the slightest. I think all the current limitations and flawed direction of development humans are taking, is "perfectly" expected.. no need to alter it in the slightest. like you said, it is what it is, out of consequence, not by chance.

This initiative is such a wholesome one, I loved the people behind it. I'm curious how they'll handle the transition, because, currently it needs money to operate, and people in it, will need money when they wanna transact outside Venus (Miami is close to Venus), I got the impression that, they intend to uproot all the conditioning for this to work successfully, it's an awesome thing if it can be done effectively. It will definitely be effective on children who grow up there. Willing adults might take a while to fully transition.

You're still approaching the solution from the same level of mind which created the problem. I'm all for people doing whatever their heart desires at the moment. About this whole "bringing vision to reality" thing, it's absolutely boring.

As long as you're not cool with the idea of everyone doing nothing, this world have no chance of materializing.

We can always ask for more, what if I asked for a clean slate, to rid of the Collective Karma. I would naturally be rid of all the privileges too. Nothing ever comes to you for free. Now, after ridding the privileges, what if I asked the Nation to stop being a Nation? Why is there a concept of nation in the first place. Why restrict oneself to this small part of earth, when this whole earth is mine.

I don't think everyone's end goal is MahaSamadhi. It's just a peculiarity of this futuristic society. These people not eager to die or something, they have found better use for their time. Not Consciousness, it could be anything. Let's say your passion is to do nothing.

People are unique, they are not restricted from selfishness, infact all they are doing is being selfish. So selfish that they forget about harming others. Power is what you built for yourself, your karma. But remember it's never had anything to do with others in the first place. This thought experiment is more like, "let's short circuit God's Greatest pleasure, that is this slot machine of a human evolution", finding evil people is a great joy to this whole game. What's the fun if there's no selfish people.

Nature has enough for everyone, people here have just evolved to integrate it, all the infrastructure is futuristic as in Tomorrowland or StarTrek

The existence of division such as 1st world, 4th world in itself, is stupid. If you're not aware yet, you are restrained even more in a first world country. It's the gift of Collective Karma. You naturally will have a lower "tolerance", making it impossible to live "as" nature. And by passion, you automatically assume, it has something to do with economy or people, what if it have nothing to do with society at all? And that's the kind of passion being referred here. This society is already satisfied, it doesn't need another savior or salesman. Passion is just an expression of your highest nature. These are not forced ideals, people who are in it have actually evolved to that level. If you're not aware already, MahaSamadhi had been celebrated already for thousands of years. It's an awesome achievement. So far all your inputs have been of immense joy to me @RendHeaven

There's no convincing, it's just a natural consequence. Here survival is taken care of, people given immense freedom to explore their passion without restraints. Over time, an evolution will happen, there's no forcing that anyone need to die, but this form of death(consciously leaving the body), is celebrated, and is getting more and more common.