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Precisely yes. It's nice if you can be in that state for long enough time, like for a few years. It's a much needed alignment. You'll come back stronger.

@Leo Gura That Warning went bad, that wasn't necessary. Anyways, solitude reminds me of Kojiro Sasaki from "Record of Ragnarok" anime. He isn't competitive, he's only concerned about mastery. Most of the time he trains alone, uses interaction with others to assess his skills and devises plans to grow, once he outgrows them, he doesn't mind them or ask them for a duel. But he's clearly grateful to them for showing him his limitations and showing him their strength. He lives a nomadic life, looking for much stronger people who would offer him a fight. And once he fails the fight, which he always does, he spends a good chunk of time training alone, surpassing them Also lives on his own, rejects stable job offers, because it doesn't excite him. Such lifestyle feels like fantasy to many, especially if you're in the West. That's the worst bias you can have. This is entirely possible, there's a few who live like this. On the top of my head "Moojin Hanvit" comes to mind. He have made some videos on how he's been living in solitude since his twenties.

You need a very strong alignment with your values to do what you truly value. Silence, pause, void, nothingness; all of these are essential for alignment. External world is a noise, at one point you have to do some serious reflection and be clear about your values. But if you live against your values, or your environment is such that your values have to be hidden from yourself, they never come to the surface. This is why most people try to drown themselves in various things; money, drinks, drugs, sex, social media. And most of these to some extend is encouraged by society because of the majority's tolerance level. Also the human excuse of being social creatures. On enjoying life, do you value it enough? Or is it some second priority? Human body is designed with too many flaws. If you drink tonight, you can't focus tomorrow. Pleasure and work bleed into each other. Work Life balance is a myth. It's all part of the whole. The more you try to seperate it, the more neurotic you become.

Green: Idealism, Revolution, Victim of the World Yellow: Pragmatism, Incremental Growth, Master of the World --- If we burn down the current systems, it will simply be replaced by another system just as bad or far worse. Revolution is against integration. Seeing people or systems as inherently evil or good is short sighted. Also, corruption and other compromises are to be expected from a system, it depends on how efficiently the system designed. This also means, bringing in superior systems to the world prematurely can cause more harm than good. Because, don't forget, higher systems are co-created by the people. Side Note: systems and individuals need to be approached very differently. Individuals are infinitely more complex than systems. Individual is a real thing, a system, however complex is still a construct at the end of the day.

It's actually very simple. Take a good look at their energy.

Good call.

I'm just looking out for the kids in this forum. Good joke. --- I want to add something. Everyone, no matter where you are in life, what your current priorities are, don't feel bad about your current level of development. I don't want my previous posts to instil any sense of fomo or urgency. No stage is higher or lower than your current one. It might not make sense at the moment, but I hope my intent is clear.

I have been noticing some very strong Stage Green Shadow, well, funny thing, I wasn't aware of it till recently. Perhaps, it's my mellow lifestyle, I live close to the equator as well. Here's something which I entertained very much; Jacques Fresco's ideas on World without Money, I have entertained it without putting in the effort to understand it structurally, from a meta perspective. Also been using the concepts in "Social Matrix: Society is a Mass Hallucination" to paralyze myself. And it's been a success . Jokes aside, I'm looking for ways to develop my Stage Yellow, and I find it extremely "tricky" to get a grounding on my Yellow qualities on the social side of things; everything related to the social matrix, including money. It's not so much that I don't know what to do. It's more of I am pulled back constantly by the shadows; old habits, worldviews, unconscious beliefs, and people, most of which I've managed to "see" successfully. I'm 22. Right now I have the means to work on myself, to build a life purpose which isn't Orange. Approaching the social matrix and achieving financial freedom as a stage yellow is so damn demanding and difficult. I can see that much. Stage Orange ways of making money disgusts me, I have not yet grown to really see Stage Orange as "inefficient". Infact, stage yellow on a stage orange society feels like a war, the fact that I have to create value in epic magnitudes has been one of the first realizations. It is daunting. haha

@aurum I don't agree with you. Everything is here now. Reaching turquoise by 22 is entirely possible if it's your priority. I'm not claiming the work gets done at 22, not at all. Stage Turquoise is just a starting point. Many more levels to unlock, and much energy is needed to integrate stuff. The work just begun. Careful not to create self imposed limitations, based on imaginary maps like Spiral Dynamics. P. S - I've been extremely lucky too. Not gonna deny that. Its hard to explain. I can't express how grateful I am. Plus, there's a huge price to pay no matter how lucky you are and no shortcuts. To me it absolutely doesn't matter whether you reach it at 20 or 90. That's why I chose 20.

BTW, ever stopped to question the structure of Spiral Dynamics? Don't you think it's extremely biased and reeks of stage Orange influence? It's not a co-incidence. Spiral Dynamics is made to account for Systems in the society, not individuals. We risk so much inaccuracy trying to set SD as the only developmental path for "individuals" in the society. Plus, it's born in a stage Orange society. I bet if a stage Green-Yellow society created this, and let's assume, Orange never existed to begin with, SD would have different biases, and even more nuanced self perpetuating levels. And SD as it stands, have accounted the patterns it have noticed in human society, with our very peculiar set of environment variables; we are on earth, we are evolved monkeys, not crocodiles or bats, and so many things. They haven't even accounted for the aliens. My point being, don't take this construct seriously. SD is just one paradigm, don't get locked into it. We're animals. We'd do anything to survive. It's interesting how self deception have become a vital part of this process.

It's a lot more complicated than that. 22 is just fine to be yellow, or turquoise. Imagine what humans will be like from a 10,000 years from now. Don't limit yourself.

Did you spend your time navigating stage Purple?

source: https://metamoderna.org/why-are-so-many-metamodernists-so-miserable-and-what-can-we-do-about-it/ @Rafael Thundercat So, I get the feeling that most of the resistance I'm facing is more of a cultural clash. And that combined with my own resentment towards the corruptions and compromises which happens within the same demographics. Just notice what you feel when hearing "Microsoft" or "Apple" or simply "Tech Companies". I see compromised innovations, lost potential, or perverted values. I kinda sympathize with them too, because they are sadly in a stage Orange Society. Remember this is me looking at these through the lens of "GNU/Linux" and Open Source values. Infact these days even the Linux ecosystem is getting corrupted by govt funding, banning Russians and other shenanigans.

There's good breadth to it. Thanks for the share.

Just don't believe what Leo or anyone says about Solipsism and you're halfway there.

I'm not gonna deny it. There's a mechanism to it. That's what I described as the Butterfly effect. These things won't affect anyone so long as they don't have their mind compromised with beliefs, fears and in energy. You talking about bm this way tells me you got work to do. And best thing would be talking to your granny

I wouldn't be so sure to call it evolution. We are already evolved to unlock it if it's our priority.

You're asking someone "Why do you breathe?", what answer can they give.

I felt like you became more mellow, calmer, and boring. It's not a bad thing though.

It's like butterfly effect, you guys' belief make it mostly true. What the witch granny does is irrelevant.

it's very basic, especially if you wanna learn Blender. Tutorials are best for basics

@gambler You shouldn't force the brain for an output, when there's not enough input. Me personally do not think about contemplating things at all, just let it happen when needed. Nor do I try to memorize anything. That's the wrong way to learn stuff. Default state should be that of "not knowing" , it's like a receptive womb. What does a stupid care about getting things wrong? (get the irony here?) My suggestion is to learn various systems, and how they work. Let's take spiral dynamics, learn the same thing from different sources, watch the videos twice or thrice. Increase your energy and attention when learning. You get the picture, leverage every resource to it's max. Output is a natural consequence. Goal is to uncover the truth in layers; everytime you improve your perception and your skill to break down complex non linear systems, you unlock a deeper layer of truth and understanding.

Why are these guys perverting our dude Jesus. He was a simple man🤷

@Majed So long as you have a flexible mind, you can learn anything. That's not the issue here. Like Leo said, your best options are those you don't know yet. You don't plan to change careers, it happens. We can't "plan" our passions just based on hunches and affinities. We know it when we do it. There's many other factors at play. If you're below 25(you must be 17?), focus on getting the most out of something you "think" you're passionate about. Dating happens naturally. Or are you implying you can't date while pursuing PhD in philosophy? If money is your goal, and passion is a second priority you can do anything. Maslow's needs are barebones, it does not apply strongly if you're pursuing something radical. My point is, those things happen, naturally, if we're true to ourselves. Anyhow, I encourage you do what you think is right. We're often blind to serious wisdom from others when we haven't put in the work ourselves. That's the nature of wisdom.

Go easy on yourself. If you can acknowledge you got a problem, you can make the decision to not keep a romantic partner, for the time being. About anti depressants, they try to induce the same chemicals which comes from a good relationship, and things to improve mood and sleep. They do numb you because it's literally forcing the brain to shut down. You have to make the call. Just a suggestion, work on your passion. Make a long term plan and commit to keep doing what you enjoy and value. If it's difficult for you, that's fine too. One need to be able to let go of everything if they wanna live in peace.