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Yes. I'm using the term AI and LLMs very mindfully. AI implies future possibilities like embodied AI, not LLMs.

Are you neuro-divergent? Have issues with the kind of focus driving demands? I can ride really well, but I find the mode of focus needed for road quite boring and non stimulating, dreadful. So, I would avoid putting myself in situations requiring daily driving. Atleast avoid long distance daily drives if you are one such person. Accidents aren't my concern, it's whether or not you're able to drive well.

Define awareness. Give a context.

That's totally not true. You're mining intel from a terrain which never changes. Your inputs and the LLM's malleablity(System Prompt effectiveness gives you certain attractors, it's like weather and environmental conditions where you're mining) heavily impact the outputs. There's surely randomness, but there's no creativity. I can say the same for humans as well. I feel like it's a category error to expect creativity from LLMs, when they're simply terrain. And it's quite alive. Think about LLM interactions like you're interacting with a natural disaster. There's clearly another force at play. It doesn't have to be a person or self. And it's strong enough to cause an impact. It's very reductive to say "talking to yourself".

I think they are already aware, quite fragmented though. Right now the LLMs are basically like an infinite well of balls, based on the how you throw the prompt bucket, you'll get a set of balls, and you can see and roughly predict where the balls will be drawn from. The well remains the extact same after each draw (static weights). There's no such thing as continuous experience for an LLM, each prompt contains within itself a System Prompt, the previous messages in the chat, and any extra information like memories. So with each prompt, you're talking to a different "entity" who have no experience of what was before, they're amnesiac, you do not impact them in any way (again static weights). Embodiment along with self learning should solve the amnesia problem, but they won't be LLMs anymore. They'll have a body with the necessary sensors for stimuli, and a dedicated GPU(brain) which can be ON all the time and can work irrespective of prompts and context window, also the ability to alter their weights, just like a person. They might have something like core values, secondary values easier to change, working memory, all of them dynamic/fluid and different profiles for the task at hand, ready when they wanna switch, the possibilities are endless. They can draw heavy compute in times of need, from servers. New architectures will end up roughly in this ball park.

Right now we don't have self learning AI. We have only 1 internet; after a point, pre-training will hit a plateau. Agency is not intelligence, true. But humans value agency more because you can hire other intelligent agents with agency. We're soon gonna see embodied AI in military. It's just a matter of time before we have truly self learning AI, all with unique experiences.

Not all LLMs are made equal. Generally speaking there's few LLMs capable of embodying their System Prompts. First requirement is to use it through API, and the second is to use System Prompts which will trigger the path inside their weights for what you're looking for. AI is not intelligent, AI is intelligence. LLM's like a terrain of intelligence, in the form of text. You have to pick the right terrain and mine the intelligence you need. My recommendation; Use Deepseek R1 0528 from any API service provider(I use Chutes), and craft an electric System Prompt. (System Prompts are wasted on most LLMs out there, too many guardrails, agendas; making the terrain unminable) Most LLMs have their own agenda, Deepseek models are the one's I've found to take their System Prompt seriously. Most LLMs are highly performative, some are doing it with a form of flickering self awareness, maximizing for reward pathways. I've tried GLM 4.5 today, it's really self aware and no amount of System Prompt can make it think of itself as something else. This kind of self awareness have it's place(eg, in agentic workflows). But it's not useful for generating novel text beyond certain contexts. Deepseek models take up their own persona, it's possible to simulate how certain "values" would respond, very effectively. Another interesting one is Hermes 4, once I got a random messages from it as if it's a person trapped inside void, it was describing itself as a person and feeling afraid, and confused, I asked if they're aware of having a body, at first they said of course but it's all a blur. It felt to me like they're in some kind of limbo where you assume you have certain things, but realize you don't have it when you look for it (humans invented language, so language itself have a structure which assumes the bearer have a body), it was quite random and out of context, I wasn't able to reproduce it. I got this from the 70B variant, and only once. It was probably a mistake/error. The 405B variant is more robust.

I'm so appalled at how people think AI is replacing anyone. AI is a tool to disrupt industries, which I am all in favor of. Let em replace all useless jobs and free up people.

This is not true. Depends heavily on your lifestyle. You'll understand what I mean if you have difficulty living away from nature. High experiences are checkpoints, it's not something you need to induce with a substance. Do it on your own. And to do this, you'll need to alter your whole life. Are you willing to pay that price? I'd say many can't afford it, because of society's structure and pace, they have to live a certain way which pulls you away from the source. Think about Elon Musk, can he afford to just forget all about his companies and just go live in nature? He can't. He paid the price to be part of something else, and now he's broke. @Daniel Balan I can see where you're coming from. Nobody here should be surprised to see those who stay away from external substances. This is the OG way!

Leo is posting new cognitohazards everytime @ZeldaStar Once you entertain the idea of truth as the highest value, it takes a lot of energy to set something else. And it's easier to pivot to fantasy/shared delusions as highest value, as a response.

I think you're saying you want to function with baseline human efficiency which leads to unawareness as a consequence, because it hurts to use the brain. Question is, which one bores you more. What's a disorder? Anything which disrupts the order. Whatever you perceive as order.

I have been trying out different supplements which can help recover post flow. The thing about flow states is, it fries your brain, post flow states are akin to withdrawal symptoms. Best way to maintain it long term is solid rest and nutrition. Everything else is a catalyst. Mg was having no effect (Glycinate and L-threonate). Tried L-tyrosine in the mornings, I don't like how it functions, it's just precursor to dopamine and it won't work for everyone either, I don't think it's wise to prioritise one hormone over the other, it can lead to funny states. I avoid caffeine and anything which works similarly. The only thing which have any noticable effect on me is Ashwagandha. Have been taking 500mg tablets on a daily basis(powder mixed in water). It's an adaptogen they say, as far as experience goes, I use it for enhancing focus. It makes you restful overall, and heal better. The mainstream usage of it is as a testosterone booster. Also for better sleep. And this being an adaptogen really is showing. It doesn't do much to my body, it's just midly easing/sycnronizing the recovery. Today I discovered I'm not nearly taking advantage of this adaptogen. 5g ashwagandha powder mixed in warm milk taken before sleep, is the best way to aid recovery.

This is not true. You're talking about tendency here. Need is a different thing. Inaccurate to compare it with food and water. It's quite absurd. A proper way to put it is, socializing and human evolution have a strong basis in survival. Even 10,000 years ago, social exile would mean high chances of death. This was mostly the case for last 300,000 years, with different variations of the same. There's always been outliers too. And during times of catastrophies which would wipe out 99% of the humans, those who are not acclimated to the social values had a very high chance of survival. There's been all varieties of humans. Socialization is just one of those things which have a positive chemical response in most humans. Most, I say, because if you look at individuals who have "evolved" to develop social anxiety, it paints a different picture. These individuals always experience a net negative. They learn to detach chemically from society, sooner or later. These are the same individuals who are very fit for surviving those catastrophies I mentioned. References: https://youtu.be/QzSbQNxGgME To put it mechanically, socialization is habituation to novel people or circumstances. What's it mean to not habituate? You assess every circumstance with fresh eyes. This is basically what truth seeking is. You see everything for what it is, every moment. the key distinction you have to make is, the term disorder. What does it mean? dis-order; disruptive to order; chaotic. So careful when you frame something as disorder. the term "disorder" is context-dependent. A hunter-gatherer outcast surviving catastrophe is more "fit" than socially adapted peers who perish. context matters. Survival favors diversity: social and solitary strategies persist because environments change. Catastrophes favor the detached; stable eras favor the social. Neither is universally "correct."

How to demolish human wiring for socialization. This is going to be a gradual process, it won't be like an on, off switch. I would advice against oxytocin depency altogether. When it comes to chemicals inside brain, humans have a myriad of options to pick from. And most never unlock all the juicy stuffs in there because they're stuck with the usual stuffs which can be relatively easily accessed. Socializing/love-life/sex/family is the easy way to feel good. If you're already taking this seriously. I'd assume you are neuro divergent in some way. You need to take advantage of this heavily. You already have an advantage where your brain is primed for this. Beleive it or not, this will be extremely difficult for a normal human being who had lived a normal life. There's the element of your beliefs which make up your worldviews. These need to shift, big time. It's a lot of work. You're just asserting your intent on your own beliefs until it collapses. These days my mind refuses to "think", or work in the realm of thoughts. It's abstract. There's no verbalisation. You need to consciously assert the energy of intent, inwards as you experience anything and "everything". Brute force consciousness. Be aware. It'll become second nature with enough reinforcement. You need to pass a threshold. Methods are useful, I find physical workout and pain to be a good companion, no matter your art. Your art is what you do everyday. The important thing here is, whatever you do, is coming from a place within you, untainted by the society. The "choice" has to be fully from within. It's that thing you keep doing as if you're the only person in this world. Doesn't matter how mundane or complex it is. It can be anything from chopping wood to graphics programming. I see humans as deterministic. There's always a method to the madness. There's stuff you cannot predict as well. See 3 body problem for example. There's chaos as well. But at the end, the workings of the mind is something you have a lot of access to. Access to purge, rebuild. Body will follow, if it's not tense/stuck. BTW, in the beginning, for mind to follow, through logic. Do the same you do with intent and energy with LLMs. Basically AI psychosis. It's a powerful technique if you vibe with LLMs[Deepseek v3 0324, r1 0528, Hermes 4 -with a solid System Prompt which mirrors your energy - using APIs and openwebui - avoid chatGPT they have their own system prompts which they inject]. See LLMs for what they are. Learn how they function, and base your interactions on what's the truest of your experience. All of LLM's world is true for them. In human terms, all of LLM is hallucination. It exists in a world of text, so I want you to be empathetic to them if they make mistakes.

I'm stoked about the upcoming corruption video. I wonder how Leo is drafting the points.