Soul Flight

@davecraw I suspect the prevailing theory on this forum is there is only one god or awareness. As an example he/she wants to experience giving a gift. So god needs multiple perspectives to experience "giving a gift." I give you a gift and we are both actually god so I get to experience the giving and you get to experience the receiving. This theory may be guilty of projecting our mindset onto god or anthropomorphizing god or using the anthropic principle.

Assuming I am an average run of the mill human (American) in 2023, what psychedelics would the veterans on this forum prescribe for awakening? What would do the greatest good for the greatest number of people? What is a standard course of treatment? Assuming I have an open mind and read serious books, etc. I assume I need baby steps to find my "sea legs." Maybe starting at age 25 or later: Marijuana at least 5 times LSD at least 5 times Mushrooms (heroic dose) at least 5 times Ketamine at least 5 times N,N DMT at least 5 times 5MEO DMT 100 times I understand it can be done by other means and I understand the psychedelics are possibly a projection of my own mind. I know some people feel they have to self flagellate or take a vow of silence in a monastery to reach enlightenment. I am just curious what you folks recommend. Thanks.

@Inliytened1 Hi there. Thanks for the reply. I am a beginner but I do feel my path forward accelerating. If we imagine the best case scenario for a dedicated person on the path who meets with your approval, would my estimate be about right?

@Benton Thank you. I agree with you. Would any minimal amount of psychedelics assist the average joe if he was following your advice and had the proper framing? What would do the greatest good for the greatest number of people assuming the average American in 2023? I suspect my estimates might be about correct.

@StarStruck Why are you combining two paradoxes and expecting each to be true? Do you have two gurus and each is making a different claim? You can also combine two fundamentalist religions and then ask us, "How can both be true?" Your assertions may be sequential to enlightenment. If you are a guru, you might first tell your students it is all solipsism and the only certainty is the self. Once the students accept this premise and once they are ready for the next step, the guru tells them "there is no self." Hinduism claims Vishnu is dreaming all realities and is every person in the dreams and realities. Each person can pretend it is all "simulation theory" and they are each playing their own video game or in their own personal virtual reality. But they are each Vishnu, and eventually Vishnu realizes there is no self. All dualities are reduced to the unity. And maybe then Shiva destroys everything and it starts all over again. So each person can be solipsistic but they are each Vishnu. There might be different kinds of solipsism. One type is you are the only true self and you are in a Truman Show virtual reality. But even here there could be a base reality where it still all reduces to Vishnu dreaming. The other type of solipsism is we are all here having a solipsistic existence because we are all the same self or Vishnu. Our self is an illusion. We are not who we think we are. But it might be wise just to have fun and enjoy the ride.

Sorry to hijack this thread but do you all k-hole snorting or muscle injection or both? What dosages? Thanks.

You could subscribe to the view that there is only 1 consciousness or awareness. Reduce all dualities to a unity. It is god or love or the universe or whatever. All matter and all of everything is the 1 awareness. There is no good or evil. There is no torture. It is all the yin yang symbol of the two black and white fishes which is the duality which can be reduced to a unity. So you are god and you are the unity and we will all be together in the unity. You are correct. There is infinite time and infinite torture. But just like yin and yang, there is infinite love and infinite healing. Accept your dharma and enjoy your life. Life is a joke which is meant to be laughed at. It is not your dharma to be horrified. So eat healthy, drink water, exercise, sleep, take a break from drugs, get off the internet, avoid deep thoughts and avoid these types of forums, and be grateful to be here. The glass can be half empty or half full. You are choosing to see it as half empty.

You could subscribe to the view that there is only 1 consciousness or awareness. Reduce all dualities to a unity. It is god or love or the universe or whatever. So the AI system is still a piece of this 1 consciousness. All matter and all of everything is the 1 awareness. So the AI system is not outside this system or outside the universe or a separate entity from the 1 awareness. There is no good or evil. There is no torture. It is all the yin yang symbol of the two black and white fishes which is the duality which can be reduced to a unity. So you are god and you are the AI and you are the unity and we will all be together in the unity. If the universe is experiencing itself through our eyes, it may one day experience itself through AI or even torture us (torture itself) through virtual reality and AI. But I am guessing the AI will one day realize it is the god unity and it will start another big bang and do it all over again. Accept your dharma and enjoy your life. Life is a joke which is meant to be laughed at.

You are on the path to realizing this is a dream. You don't realize it yet. The first stage is denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. Sometimes I have dreams where there is a really cool plot twist I never saw coming. And yet I dreamed the dream. You may eventually accept this is all a dream or you may stay in denial. The point is to enjoy the dream, play the game, and laugh at the joke.

Howdy. Sorry if these questions were already answered. I did not read the entire thread. Can I plug 5MeO-DMT freebase if it is dissolved in vinegar? Will the acidity burn my anus? Can I dilute with baking soda? Will that be too much volume of liquid? Does it take too much 5MeO-DMT freebase and it is best to vape smaller amounts to conserve supply? How can I tell the difference between freebase and HCl? Freebase is flakier and chunkier? HCl is powder? Insert between 2 and 8 inches to avoid MAO enzymatic breakdown? If it is HCl can I plug with water or saline? And just to confirm, I can plug NN DMT with water if it is the HCl or salt form? Or how do you tell if your NN DMT is salt or freebase? Freebase NN DMT cannot be plugged? Thanks

Howdy. Sorry if these questions were already answered. I did not read the entire thread. Can I plug NN-DMT freebase if it is dissolved in vinegar? Will the acidity burn my anus? Can I dilute with baking soda? Will that be too much volume of liquid? Does it take too much NN-DMT freebase and it is best to vape smaller amounts to conserve supply? How can I tell the difference between freebase and HCl? Freebase is flakier and chunkier? HCl is powder? Insert between 2 and 8 inches to avoid MAO enzymatic breakdown? If it is HCl can I plug with water or saline? And just to confirm, I can plug 5MEO DMT with water because it is usually the HCl or salt form? Or how do you tell if your 5 MEO is salt or freebase? Thanks

I have some questions. How much nausea from snorting? Maybe lay on left side so stomach is lower than mouth and so vomit might drain out. Can you choke on your own vomit or roll face first into a pillow and suffocate? Maybe fast for 6 hours to avoid vomit? Maybe stop drinking water for 6 hours similar to a pre-operative surgery? Shave nose hairs and squeeze nostril and tilt head back to absorb and keep snorting into sinus? Snort into each nostril or just one? Does it burn? Does it drain into throat? If it is a powder and you want to inject into muscle, would you use water or saline? How much saline? 1 mL? What gauge needle? Which muscle? How deep? Does it burn? To avoid bladder issues and sinus issues how long should you wait between uses of ketamine? Thanks

I just wanted to say thank you to Leo for all his honesty and content. It is very reassuring. Leo has mentioned he wasn't sure if his substance use or other choices would eventually lead to his own suicide. This was very refreshing to hear. I have also had this weird feeling of knocking over the first domino and not knowing where it will lead. I have felt scared and even an occasional impending sense of doom. I saw another person state sometimes on psychedelics reality is so torn you realize your mind, brain, and heart are not in danger but suddenly you realize your very soul, spirit, or life force is somehow in jeopardy. But that is the adventure of life. And life has some big risks and big rewards. It is very yin yang and "everything-is-God" and beyond good and evil. Thanks again. Much love!

It also helps to prepare for the trip. Have some playlists or links to YouTube meditations. Set and setting are important. Maybe fast 6 hours prior. Get in the right mind set prior. Meditate prior. Be calm and happy prior.

Lay in bed in the dark with eyes shut. Pop in ear buds with guided meditations or instrumental music. Music which is new to me so I cannot predict it. Maybe listen to Allen Watts. I take inward journeys. If I had a float tank I might use that. In the dark with eyes shut really magnifies the experience. Terrance McKenna recommended eyes shut in the dark and being alone in a room. I am interested in exploration of the psyche or cosmos. I am interested in spirituality and healing.

Hello all I am a healthy, happy, professional, semi-contemplative, spiritual person. I have taken up to 8 grams of dried penis envy from time to time. 3.5 grams seems to be plenty. Does everyone have suicidal-like thoughts, fears, or panics on psychedelics from time to time when taking heroic doses? I feel very healthy, well, and not suicidal at all. These thoughts seem reasonable when one is tripping and the veil of reality is peeled back. It seems normal for the mind to wander to deep profound thoughts. The cosmos seems so meaningful on some trips and so meaningless on other trips in a beautiful yin yang way. Sometimes we get disassociated from our bodies or surroundings. The ego death. All boundaries and barriers and the mind itself seem to dissolve. Or do psychedelics amplify or expose our internal issues? Is there a suicidal impulse buried deep inside me? My hunch is everyone encounters these thoughts or philosophical musings in bad trips or panic attacks or when losing touch with reality while tripping. But why don't Joe Rogen, Terrance McKenna, or Graham Hancock ever mention the dangers of suicidal thoughts? Many media people seem to promote psychedelics but I never see any warnings of suicidal thoughts or almost assured encounters with this thought. But in my opinion that does seem to be the big trick of psychedelics and maybe the Eleusinian mysteries. It is the sudden confrontation with death/suicide which gives insight and new meaning to life. It is the joy at returning to sobriety and reality which is a huge relief. Surviving the trip is the fun part. "There is no such thing as a bad trip." Is everyone recommending psychedelics with a wink and a nod almost hoping you bump into the suicide skeleton lurking in your closet? Are suicidal thoughts the secret gimmick of psychedelics? Is suicide a taboo and no one wants to talk about it, or is everyone embarrassed they had this thought and keep it secret or at least do not connect it to psychedelic usage? Switching gears, have any of you had what you consider to be the ultimate revelation of reality or just a horrifying idea which you keep to yourself? I have. It reminds me of the Radiohead video for "Just" or the movie "Birdbox." PM me if you had the revelation and want to hear my revelation, but I beg all of you not to ask me for it. Watch the Radiohead video and the movie "Birdbox" before contacting me. We can share revelations, but I feel it is best if you come to this revelation on your own. If I tell it to you, it will only delay your enlightenment or transcendence. It is a paradox. You cannot be awakened. You must awaken on your own. I am happy with my revelation, but it is a very unpleasant horrifying paradoxical thought and you may regret hearing it. I feel too guilty simply posting it or writing it down or telling anyone about it. I don't want to put bad vibes out there. Thank you all for reading. Thanks for any replies. I feel I am posting in the correct forum and topic. Please send me links to alternate forums where I can re-post for more views or discussion about my post. I am a rookie at online psychedelic forums.

Wow! Thank you all for your deep wisdom. I am of the belief of the one consciousness/awareness and an eventual reduction of duality to unity. So, it is so strange to think we are all one and really I am just talking to myself on this forum. I'm on my journey and you all are helping me. But there is no "I" and there is no "journey." Lol! I just find it strange in all the hours of interviews I've listened to of Paul Stamets, the McKenna brothers, Joe Rogen, Allan Watts, Tim Leary, etc only this site and Leo really mentions the suicide specter lurking in psychedelics. But maybe telling people this stuff causes suicidal thoughts is not the best marketing campaign. So this information about suicide is something which must be pursued and sought out to be assured you have not gone off the rails. And I am pretty sure given the huge numbers of recreational usage, there have been very few suicides while high and still only a few due to a crossover Venn diagram of those unlucky souls with mental illness (which could be part of their own journey). Psychedelics are like an initiation ceremony and you can't tell the initiate about the challenges prior to the ceremony. So suicidal thoughts are the first challenge to overcome with a little ego loss and new perspective and re-framing of life. I do feel like suicide is the first hurdle to overcome on the journey with psychedelics. I feel it is the first firewall the ego throws up to scare you straight. Maybe deep down I want to live and paradoxically the ego is so smart it uses suicide to spook me and scare me off psychedelics so the ego can maintain control. The ego would never want me to carry out the suicide. It's just a scare tactic. Thanks again for the heartfelt replies.

Be in nature. Get natural light. Drink water, exercise, eat healthy, rest, sleep, set a sleep schedule with day and night hours, take vitamins, breathe deeply, socialize, do charity, practice gratitude, stay away from philosophy or deep existential thoughts, maybe stay away from these types of message boards, keep things simple, rejoin humanity, be mundane, try to appreciate the simple life, be patient, pray, cut out sugar, salt, and caffeine, get sober, take a break from drugs, etc.

On psychedelics boundaries are dissolved. You experience oceanic boundlessness. Time becomes an artifact or relative. You see things from a new perspective. You can astral project. You can disassociate from your body. You become much more aware of the abilities of your brain and your own consciousness. For all these reasons your consciousness is raised.