Flicker_boy

would you equate this to arhatship@Leo Gura ? i mean, your definition of enlightenment

@Mikey skillful means

if there's any truth there! obviously

@Mikey just checkin

@Leo Gura HAHAHAHAH im crying here

sure, but can you kickflip a soul hotdog? that's the real issue

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Ideologies/belief systems are costly things to mantain. They require you to lie about reality, engage in discussions, ignore things, take inappropriate action, etc, etc to be mantaneid. What's the benefit here? Why do we do this? For us to accept all this costs there must be some (big) benefit to mantaining them, at least a perceived or ilusory one. Any perspective on the matter is appreciated.

aging is natural enlightenment, meditation is catalyst for aging

maybe and maybe. try both being equanimous with this and crying/laughing without resistance i don't know what this is but it also happens to me, seems like you openned a gate of sorts

@Matthew Lamot when someone points out your bs system protection/ reality denial mechanism. AUCH! better distract them with more bs

@Leo Gura *drops the mic*

no

Jack Saturday!

@How to be wise 1 hour everyday... i'd say 1 year and 6 months to 3 years till stream-entry, if you're so inclined and bring your A game to the quest. but don't forget stream-entry is only just the start, there's A LOT to be learned after that

@How to be wise doesn't matter. If it works it works. Try it out for yourself anyway, I learned it from shinzen and vipassana

do it sleepy and/or after eating a lot

or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI4seVg0xjk&index=5&list=PLE97314F5245F94E3

@Frogfucius nothing wrong with models. but if you want truth you will have to give them up, no exception. maybe you need to work through the need to know, thats fine too. if so i recomend the book of not knowing by peter ralston

too much mind try shaving that off and be what remains

@Emerald Wilkins thats a nice one, like a sweat lodge os sorts

@Atom no offense s2s2s2

who were the enlightened people you worked with so far? do you recomend having a physically present teacher in this quest?