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@Phil No worries I didn't get a preachy feeling out of your words, they were kind.

@Phil You misunderstand how I view my traumatic past. There is emotional trauma stored in my body that I am letting go of, every day, getting better at it, learning better techniques and releasing more energy. Thats it. There is no attachment to the past or the feeling that "I've been hurt in some way". I am going to give a little more thoughts to the language part and think it over, maybe sleep on it, however this is the thing I can say right now. It is not the word itself. It is the emotional energy behind it, the emotional colour of the word/thought is assigned unconsciously. You don't purify it by using a differet word, u purify by releasing the energy. Thanks though, most of what you said was spot on.

@abrakamowse In other words if you're a victim you are going to be giving victimhood solutions. Hence the difference between psychiatrists and hardcore mindfulness teachers. Guess who's the victim here

@abrakamowse Heard this argument. Well she's right though right. It works for people who are willing to put in the work and grow. Just like therapy. Drugs are a different story. Drugs can give you an ability to get up if you're way too deep in the shit. But only temporarily. Being on drugs long-term will very likely destroy many aspects your life.

I am still in my beginning stages of PD, it's been a little more over a year since I started my own personal journey, and it was in a huuge place of depression and anxiety I was getting up from. I can imagine meditation and PD being effortless and joyful. In fact I have been there where everything was in this beautiful flow of life. But there is initial work to get there.

@abrakamowse Pills have a huge relapse again. You gotta understand, in the "official" mental health field nobody really knows what they're doing. Everyone is just derping around with the attitude of "yo howboa dis". There is no proof of drugs working, it is just an assumption, a theory. As well as for meditation, therapy, and psychadelics. All these are approached as theories. Now the only ones who kinda know what they're doing are some conscious therapists, who of course go baybay private practice because after a while they simply don't see any benefits from being restricted by the government.

@Phil I do believe language is a strong factor, but it is not the cause it is the effect. I made a decision I want to live my life trauma-free. And that is what I am getting, nothing more, nothing less.

@Phil I would assume your path is very different from mine, I have lots of trauma stored in my subconscious and Im letting it out. Interesting though. I always assumed that on the path there is always emotional labour involved.

Haha you should see my class (counseling course). It looks to me like a big bunch of victimhood, anxiety and depression. Of course there are exceptions. Thank goodness.

@Phil Hippies are all good, nothing wrong with hippie philosophy. It is preaching hippiism I find problematic. You don't get INTO the hippie vibe of love and compassion by practicing hippie lifestyle (at least in my definition of hippie lifestyle). You get there through hard work. But you said it yourself, you didn't get there just through eating healthy, you mentioned meditation, and I'd assume that included emotional labour. :-)

@Phil Aight. Ater all all Im getting here is a text on the screen, I have 0 background of yours so you gotta forgive me for getting the hippie vibe feel.

@BeginnerActualizer I mean... I do tend to hate on it big time, because it is just such a partial approach. CBT deals with the realm of beliefs and thoughts. And then they literally "try to talk you out of your own beliefs". WHAT THE FUCK It's not as simple as saying "yo you AARE good enough, it is just your mind fucking you up" If it were, we don't need self-help, therapy, coaching, and spirituality altogether. You would just go "Oh you aare enlightened" and rocked onto other realms of being.

@BeginnerActualizer Im studying in Scotland, NHS is here. Idk whtf's in England I assume it won't be very different, Im not from the UK originally, but I get the feeling that UK's mental health is shiiiit as fuck man.

@BeginnerActualizer NHS runs on CBT which is a big dysfunctional lie within of itself. The relapse time is around 2 years yet they keep on denying it whilst leading uk deeper and deeper into a major mental health crysis. The generation of today's 20 somethings will become suicidal soon, everyone is just derping around hoping for a partnet alcohol or material issue to fix their mental health.

@Phil You are simplifying and going into a hippie mode. Be careful with that. If there is anything tricky, it is the mind. Believe it or not eating healthy doesn't fix decades of emotional abuse, hard-wired negative beliefs and cultural and social oppression, as well as biological rammifications of neglected emotions. It requires time, it is counter intuitive, and it is noy as simple as "lets all love and eat healthy". Not saying nutrition isn't important, but don't mistake a tool of clarity for solution and actual healing.

@ULFBERHT @Arman

@BeginnerActualizer Depends on a therapist. If he tries to fit client's experience into a box then yes, that is problematic. Then again it is up to the client as well. There are many therapists who don't work with diagnoses at all. In fact this approach is preffered. Therapy and psychology is still very young, and it is evolving. Right now at this moment I am having a psychology class on intelligence. Im just sitting here wondering that 1. My lecturer is just kinda dull and doesn't perform well introducing these topics 2. Intelligence is just a social construct. You create a norm and measure how others fit into it, which creates more judgement, more ego and more problems. So psychology is kinda going in a retarded direction at this point in time. Lets see how it goes in the future

@bq30 The Fundamentals.

@RossE Tony Robbins has a saying that goes along the liens of "Your expectations match reality = happy, your expectations don't match reality = unhappy". This is very true, and it is true on a certain "meta level". The meta level is - my mood matches my expectations, I am "ok with it". Mood being whatever. I now realize how vastly unhappy I was throughout my whole fucking childhood. But I never considered myself an unhappy person. I thought it was "the norm for me" it was my standard. Another saying of Tony Robinse's I now realize =D. How do you improve? YOU RAISE YOUR STANDARDS! So you upgrade the meta level. Meta level = I am in love with life. I am in the flow of things, I am excited about all the miracles that happen on every day basis. I go and roll. I am not in that state? WELL I GOT SHITTON OF WORK TO DO <3!

Have you tried assessing yourself? I find it tricky as it fluctuates. However when I'm not realeasing (tbh I am most of the time) I am at Inspiring prolly. I could see that as my current baseline but not really able to grasp it fully just yet.

@kuwaynej thats called good marketing

@MochaSlap It comes down to the basic emotion they are driven by. In most people you can tell it is fear, you can see it in their eyes. But there are some who are deeply hurt - those become aggressive. And others. Those who are self-actualizing will slowly push their way into more positive emotions like joy and fulfillment, and those become their motivators. Average person considers him/herself happy, because the happiness they have been experiencing for most of their life equals relief of the constant anxiety.

@barry Dude meditate whenever you want, and keep this practice through the day

Woow what a powerful talk!

@Old Soul =DDD I love your conspiracies. Yeah... what if Leo is just one big fucking massive Mind-rapist. I guess we'll have to find out! Hahahhaha