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@Pallero I would agree that psychedelics aren’t useful unless you take enough time and space to integrate them, which if you keep tripping you seriously don’t and it’s cray. the way you integrate the truth is through integrating your emotional body which is the manifestation of your inner child, seeing the child as toxic only implies an adversarial relationship to your emotions and thus a great unwillingness to emotionally integrate the truth of who and what you and all of us are.

@Pallero I missed the part where Leo wanted to kill his inner child. thats some emotional self-harm, damn. That’s ouchie. My inner child not happy hearing this. Very unhappy. Much love to Leo’s neglected inner child.

Lol ? only elder souls play elder scrolls. joking aside indigo children can have it really rough and keep feeling an existential sense of loneliness, so I feel you guys who wanna find some company in that space. The sad truth of it is that the only way out of the existential sense of loneliness is making your way through it, and surrendering into it, because even if all your spirit guides kept you company, they wouldn’t be able nor willing to rescue you out of that feeling because it is an initiation into a deeper surrender.

bro can you please start a thread to weep about your own problems? This is my weeping spot, don’t hijack my weeping place. My tears, my problems. no wonder you getting warnings hijacking other people’s threads lol

Thank you, appreciate it. Due to Leo's responsiveness and the maturity of his responses, if I decide to leave and not come back, Leo probably won't be the reason.

I've read through all the posts again and want to add something First of all thanks to @Leo Gura for his openness. Secondly, regarding the victim-blaming issue, which I believe was the biggest point of conflict and controversy (which actually wasn't my intention, but I can see how that would happen of course haha). I can appreciate Leo's intention not wanting to drag the cop/cops in general through the mud. That is certainly a very conscious and mature outlook. In this way it's a great idea to support the cop or not call him a murderer, beautiful and lovely. All thumbs up from me. but just to make it clear once and for all, what the victim blaming issue for me that lit up the red flags was: 'Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially at fault for the harm that befell them.' - wiki quote To suggest that GF's fear was a self-fulfilling prophecy IS suggesting that he was partially at fault for the harm that befell him. So by definition, like it or not, it is a subtle victim blaming framework. I didn't love all the hate I got for pointing this out, but it's the truth. I don't think Leo is an unconscious person, I think he's an amazing guy. But he does have a tendency to be dismissive, and dismissiveness can translate as blaming yourself and others for things that aren't really anyone's fault.

@PurpleTree ?????? that’s too good ????

@Natasha nooo no thank you!! ? I like my boundaries. healthy love >>> everything.

Maybe he’ll finally get his Rolls-Royce. I bet he’s been waiting for yeaaaaars!!!

How very positive of you !!!!! ahhh sorry I’m in a call out mood. Fun day! ?

Well what if that’s just a smart way of avoiding the negativity of things . the positivity movement is actually very unhealthy in terms of emotional healing and regulation. negativity is just as much a part of the life as positivity is. Love isn’t positivity, love is the honoring of all of what arises within and throughout.

Why do you need to wait till someone criticises Leo to show positive affection? we’re all worthy of love all the time, no need to wait for the times to get rough in order to be living to one another (as strange as it is coming from me who recently started the criticisms train. Leo is worthy of love, we all deserve and need more love, the criticism wasn’t against Leo it was for the expression of the unhealthy dynamics and insensitive incidents. That isn’t void of love, that creates more room for healthy and pure love, without an agenda.

Could we just acknowledge that half the reason we follow Leo is because of our massive daddy issues ? (My hands in the air lol ) , something to consider, which I’ve been much aware of.

Something along the lines ‘Come on girl, I won’t tell, don’t play coy with me I know how dirty you are.’ it was a post aimed at Etherial Cat I believe. Another good one was ‘come on dude what is this gay shit’... paraphrasing. i feel like I’m digging up dirt now I don’t like it so this is all I’m gonna say, Leo’s response to this post was extremely good imo, and I’m only glad for his self-responsibility, I don’t think this is about Leo anymore but about everyone else here. Which isn’t my concern.

Because some of his posts could be considered sexual harassment. For example.

Ps for me the posts in the dating section were actually a much bigger deal.

Well by definition as long as there’s a connection made between GF’s behaviour and his death, it is still victim blaming. ‘Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially at fault for the harm that befell them.’ -Wikipedia He did resist arrest. and he was shot. to say he was shot due to his resistance is to victimblame. He resisted arrest because the state of his nervous system caused him to panic. He didn’t die because he panicked, he died because someone shot him. If he panicked somewhere else, he would’ve been alive, therefore the panic had nothing to do with his death, and he has no responsibility for being handled by a cop who pulls a trigger too quickly. Leo did say that he didn’t want the cop to be called a murderer, which I can get 100% behind, it’s gotta be a stressful environment. I have also heard stories about BLM being overly violent and going overboard which I wouldn’t get behind either. but the GF case was not the point of my post, it was just a part of it to emphasise the overall pattern.

@Forestluv @wakeup one last thing. I find it unfair to label Forestluv as the greatest enabler is this dynamic. It was after all him who described the victim blaming dynamic in his comment, while we are all bound to disagree on what we find toxic for ourselves and what is tolerable and what isn’t, Forest’s posts tend to be very feminine oriented and I find that regardless of whether he challenges someone or not, they always bring a beautiful balance to a forum that is brutally and overly masculine, and for that I have gratitude and admiration.

@Nahm one last thing, I felt some anger being healed out of you. I just wanted to say how happy for you I am because anger is an extremely important feeling to feel and heal and it in a sense makes me happy regardless of how unhealthy our interaction is, may my parting words be well done and love be with you.

ThAnk you so much ! ❤️❤️❤️

Again I’d love to block you but I cannot so I ask you to respect your mod status and at least stop interacting thank you so much !!

Oh boy Maybe he’d get so much hate that he’d be crucified all over again.. only now online.

Appreciate this, thanks Leo. No hate, I personally owe you so much for when I was struggling very hard about 5 years ago, I got your LP course and completely loved it and it changed my life. unfortunatley this topic has nothing to do with you anymore, but with the type of relationship people here have with your teachings. and it’s just triggering everyone into what they weren’t planning to look at.

You know, you could say this same type of argument about Trump. yet the complaints about his behaviour are rather valid aren’t they..FATHER

@wakeup thanks I appreciated your input. I hate the feeling of going against a mass that wants to disagree without even considering the validity of what you’re saying simply because it makes them uncomfortable. Too much confrontation !! Oh the childhood trauma haha. All the best!