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Thanks for the extensions. It’s appreciated. you could have saved me a lot of time if you had written yours!🤣 or from another perspective, you did write it😉

Sorry, this is a long reply It’s only a contradiction if you take those few examples in isolation. you need to understand that they’re part of a larger system and that they can impact the larger system in varying degrees. The degree to which they impact that system determines whether it is allowed or not .Society is a collective of individuals and all those individuals need to cooperate in order to hold that society together. It’s like a decision of cooperation to become a larger entity which holds itself together with rules, boundaries and limitations .Every individual in the society is different. There’s no problem with that. They go about their business, living their lives as they see fit provided that they don’t impose on others or prevent others from living their lives as they see fit because other different people have their purpose within that society. acceptance and understanding of each individuals differences is key to a cooperative society. Everyone is vastly different and that is critical for society because those differences offer points of view that create a higher vantage point when synthesised together. If Points of view were all completely similar , nobody would be able to see the larger picture and would only have access to a fraction of reality. When you have a set of individuals who don’t accept differences, or impose on others or prevent others from living their lives as they see fit, this disturbs the balance of that society holding itself together. The society cannot progress if individuals who impose on or prevent others Increases and throws the balance off to the point that people start living in fear and stop cooperating with one another. that society cannot progress because it is no longer cooperation with itself. It is fighting within itself and tearing itself apart. the very nature of living in a finite reality means that there are rules, boundaries and limitations that hold that reality together, just the same as there are rules, boundaries and limitations within the smaller sections that we have within that reality like humanity, like countries, like societies, like companies, like communities. Take into consideration, the analogy of the human body. If we take a human as an individual they are constructed of many different cells many different organs many different hormonal systems. They are all different and have different purposes, but they work together cooperatively to collectively create the entire ‘functional’ human being. If a bunch of those cells decide to impose on the cells beside them or prevent the cells beside them from doing things that they’re supposed to be doing (they have the inherent ability to do that (decisions or choices) and they can do that up to a certain point! what if that grows and goes over a tipping point disturbing the balance? the body becomes dysfunctional or dies. the rules, boundaries and limitations of the finite human form start to fall apart. When cells grow out of control and are not kept in line by the immune system, they take over killing the human and themselves too. We call that cancer. so you need to understand that if you allow things like cannibalism or paedophilia free rein in a society to the point that it is normalised (those being an imposition on another persons life, ) that can destabilise a society, not just directly, but indirectly as well, through fear. Homosexuality is not the same thing. homosexuality is not imposing on or preventing another person from living as they see fit. homosexuality is simply an attraction to a person of the same sex. being as they are, expressing as they are provided it’s consentual. they’re not imposing on or preventing other people from living their lives as they see fit. You need to understand the larger context of the system. this is what you’re not getting. you’re taking something in isolation and not taking into consideration how it would affect the larger system. You’re arguing equality out of context and making it sound like cognitive dissonants. You need to expand your view to the larger picture. There is only one thing that is truly in existence, and that is the absolute . When it creates reality, it doesn’t create individual things in isolation. There is no such thing as an individual reality. Reality is relative. when an object is created or a form is created it does not exist in isolation. it exists relative to the space around it, so they’re always two things. That is the nature of reality. form relative to other form with the mind making a distinction of the boundary between the two so they can exist as if independent. The whole thing is an entire system of cooperation. If a form were to push beyond the boundaries of what it was relative to, It would collapse back into the absolute ( potential or chaos). The same rules and structures are mirrored throughout the entire universe, and throughout the mechanism of the mind of infinite consciousness. And it works in the same way in the structure of a society, the many different diverse and varied, make up the one. Because the many are finite, they are required to cooperate. they cannot impose on, prevent or dismiss one another or the collective entity that is known as humanity will fall apart. To truly understand this requires unconditional love and understanding.so ‘other’ needs to be accepted. You can have compassion for a cannibal or a paedophile . you can love them unconditionally and endeavour to understand them in an attempt to curtail their behaviour and stop them imposing on others. to understand the psychology or mentality behind it and work with them to find a solution that doesn’t involve violation another’s boundaries. It’s very easy to hate someone and stop them from doing something by being coercive, but it is ultimately better in the long run to fully understand that persons predicament from their point of view. They are ultimately responsible for their own behaviour and their own psychology and their own whims so it must be them to make the decision not to impose on others. Coercing a person is forcing them where cooperating with them is allowing them to make the decision by themselves with a little help and guidance. This is the idea behind restorative justice which seems to be having a better effect on the reduction of reoffenders where the current criminal justice system and punitive system is not offering any solutions to rehabilitation, or the personal improvement of the inmates relative to their society. If we endeavour to understand and study the homosexual, we find that they are not a threat to anyone. we can of course discuss the individuals personality and the way that they behave within a society. I’m fully aware that there are a lot of people in the LGBT and gay community who are absolutely horrifically rude and self-centred people, but my assumption about this is that it is a backlash against the way that the community has been treated and dismissed in the past. There is a level of underlying anger still there that hasn’t been resolved. But you could say the same about any minority group that gets dismissed. The question is do they impose on others, or are they simply just being themselves and keeping to themselves. That’s your boundary that you’re looking at that should not be crossed if society is to hold it self together. PS; homosexuals are not imposing themselves on religious people. They’re making a statement that religious people don’t accept they exist as they are. Religious people are the ones doing the act of complaining and demanding the right to dismiss their existence as being valid because it doesn’t fit with their beliefs. they are refusing to accept that there is diversity within a society. Those beliefs are assumptions based on what they’ve been told or indoctrinated with. I understand they’re trying to hold their own collective culture together but it’s based on a misunderstanding and actually segregate them from the rest of society instead of including them as a community within it. Part of reality is that it changes all the time. The universe doesn’t stand still. they can try to maintain the status quo but refusing to adapt to a changing environment or changing larger society will result in their own atrophy. Part of moving from one state to another is making decisions whether to improve or devolve . Although change is slow, we are trying to direct ourselves towards improving our society and being more inclusive and accepting of others. This does not mean that it is going to fall apart. This means that it is going to change and become more accepting and cooperative with the advantage of More, points of view, and experiences to synthesise higher insights and vantage points from. Cooperative collectives, make more progress. going backwards, becoming separated or staying in the status quo is a failure to adapt to an ever changing environment. that is what will cause societal dissolution.

Depends on the breed of plant.(sativa/indica) depends on the strain of breed ( thc/cbd ratio) depends what you are using it for(spiritual/recreational/medical) Depends if you got it from a trusted source or off a street corner ( pure or contaminated with other substances) With a large push for legalisation of this right now, it’s important to learn and understand this plant and its variations. Because it is being manipulated and changed, it is involved in an increase in emergency room visits. my own personal experience with it is the more conscious you become, the less you need to get into expanded states( goes for all substances). I’ve needed less each time and I only ever use it to reconnect to higher self state when I feel like I’m slipping back into an autonomous subconscious pattern. The rest is actual integration work or experiencing reality as it is. Once or twice a year is my personal limit for stronger substances like weed and 5 meo.

You could argue that pedophilia and cannibalism involve imposing on another being without their consent and causing traumatic ( mental/ physical) harm or death. in a relationship or sexual act which is predominantly consenting, homosexuality does not fall under imposing on another being. you are arguing the dismissal of a type of human who participates in a cooperative relationship based on it leading to the normalisation of relationships based on suppression and harm. There is no logical link between the two. you sound like you are trying to justify your pre existing beliefs because you can’t accept the reality of the existence of these people. there are instances of consenting in cannibalism but I’d hazard a guess that it’s extremely rare and if we are talking about peodophelia regarding kids under the teenage age( no consent ) or kids in their teens who did consent but their sexual partner was of an age gap that made it legally wrong. There are also homosexuals that participate in non consensual behavior as well. All things can apply to the above. But for society to hold itself together, there are lines or boundaries that shouldn’t be crossed and one of those is imposing on others or preventing others. the universe explores and experiences itself in many diverse ways. To say that one of those ways is wrong is to misunderstand the nature of reality. perhaps it would be better to voice what it is about homosexuality that bothers you personally and go down a path of self enquiry into the resistance you feel towards it. Try not to use narratives like ‘evolution’ to justify your feelings about it as that is blaming external circumstances instead of getting the answers from within yourself.

If that were the case then pregnancy would result from every instance of sexual intercourse but it doesn’t. theres A hypothesis that when an immediate population ( large family)occurs, a genetic switch happens in a later pregnancy resulting in homosexual offspring that opt out of competition with other siblings. there’s also plenty of instances of people in a society who simply choose to broaden their options when the pickings are slim. there’s also instances of trauma related to the opposite sex and the person will recoils from anything that is opposed to themselves sexually. spiritually, sex differentiation doesn’t matter when you start to transcend the idea of the body. Loving unconditionally doesn’t require the other person to do or be anything in particular. perhaps you can’t wrap your head around it because you can’t step outside your own perspective to see other ways of being?

This is the way I prefer to study consciousness. My first mystical experience was after contemplative meditation, removing the parts of ‘me’ that when gone did not result in my ceasing to exist. I did psychedelics after that as I’d heard people describe it as the same experience and so I did and it was. Becoming very comfortable in the psychedelic space and also going into those states of consciousness while the body was asleep prompted me to study the different states and dimensions of consciousness from the discipline of the mind… my reasoning for that was everything is taking place within, including psychedelics and it was nearly just a tool to show what consciousness could do. It’s a lot harder to change the minds states especially when it believes what it’s experiencing is real and can’t let go of it. Putting the body to sleep and removing the 5 senses certainly makes it easier but quite frustrating during periods of nothing happening. Complete and utter relaxation, open heartedness and contentment is a must for me or I go no where.

Sure. Two people experience the same thing. One person comes to terms with it and uses the event as a lesson to learn about and improve their responses, thoughts, behavior and studies the mechanism of the event, how it came to happen/ or the psychology behind the person that acted in an imposing way toward them. the other fills with anger, remains in a victim mentality and perpetuates the same reactive behavior towards anyone or any situation they see as similar even if it is truly not the case. They are behaving in a way their mind programmed itself to survive or cope and continue even though it is no longer needed. if the event was the same for both then the perception of it was subjective. no one controls your mind if you are self aware of your own psychology so you can inherently realise you have a choice through which lens you view your events. We always see it from our own bias unless we actively step back and take the bias out of it. I’ve a friend and his brother who were abused by the same person. Both have very different reactions. Although both were victims and so angry they became an issue for society cause they were attacking people… one went on a psychedelic therapy trial and turned his life around when he saw it from another perspective. The other keeps ending up in jail.

Composing, writing and singing ceremony music/ motivational music climbing mountains snorkelling the coast meticulously studying and getting involved with my countries hearings, political issues and diving into the nitty gritty of research papers to find patterns and possible resolutions to problems. wood carving for decorating my house which I’m currently building/renovating consciousness study and practice ( astral projection/ reality shifting) there’s plenty to explore but the time to do it is almost non existent. I used to build street carnival floats, giant puppets, marketing props ( poly sculpting and fibreglass) and costumes for the arts festivals around the country here but the pandemic wiped out the business. I loved it but that love diminished when the amount of work put into it didn’t result in any income or progress or growth in the business so I sold everything and gave it up.

If you listen to a few near death experiences, a lot of them report being integrated into the light and know everything. Compressing that all into the mind of a human isn’t possible so if you have a NDE or psychedelic trip or massive shift in consciousness during a meditation or within a dream, you know it but can’t hold onto it when you come back into the perception of the body. You can retrieve that knowledge but you end up knowing everything but unable to explain it because you know it as a whole. To explain it means making distinctions, focusing on individual things and creating narratives or stories about them as attached descriptions. to get there is to remove your attention from physical perceptions or the 5 senses and shut out anything external including your perception of the body and remain focused and aware of your awareness. This isn’t accurate but for the sake of describing ‘something’ close your eyes, keep the body so still that it eventually disappears and all that is left is the awareness behind your eyes. Eventually the head and eyes and sense of self will also disappear and you will be left in a void that is aware. Turn awareness back in on observing itself. It is in essence nothing and the core of what you are. You may have to slowly question everything and deconstruct everything you have accumulated as knowledge till there is nothing left and then let g. This is where interesting things start to happen. As awareness starts to reconstruct the mind or consciousness, form appears and you can end up anywhere, experiencing anything your mind can come up with. take it slow as sudden and vast realisations can be shocking and throw your ego into existential crisis. It’s not pleasant. There will be plenty people around to guide you but they will only take you so far and then the rest is up to you. Depending on what it is you are interested to know you may want to consider not concentrating on accumulating knowledge about cults or religions etc and instead turn inward and find your answer in there. Once that is understood, going and exploring all the various different things that there are to experience outside can be enjoyable lessons and not scary.

That’s interesting. The topic of arrogance has come up in trips, from facilitators and a message from another ceremony participant( although it was described as “old prideful soul”). And I fully acknowledge the arrogance and use the term openly when describing ‘myself’. I’m wondering if I’m teetering on the edge of full realisation of ego mechanism. It’s no longer separate but being integrated into the totology as a tool that is used for reality exploration and distinction as you say ( I’ve got over the hump of the negation and nihilism phase). I get what breaking the wall is saying so can’t disagree but cannot agree with dismissing reality as a dream. Having experienced creating reality from scratch and going into a dream fully conscious, the only distinction I can make between the two is by name and in some instances, level of solidity and finitude. I can accept someone else’s experience as their reality but I cannot dismiss my own to fit someone else’s. That would be denying my own direct experience… I think the confusion might be coming from the language ( within duality) attempting to describe something we’ve experienced outside that. In essence all of us are pointing at the same thing but arguing the differing experiences of how we experienced, dissolved or created the path to that realisation?

I think we’re mixing up occult with cult. occulted knowledge is what Jesus would have studied ( Jewish mysticism or Kabbalah and even speculation of philosophies from the east) . Regardless of whether such a person existed or not, the teachings and general message comes from ancient occulted wisdom. Just to be clear ‘occulted’ means hidden and a lot of prophets or sages of the time spoke in metaphorical language to hide it from the governing structures who attempted to stamp it out because it threatened the stability and validity of the hierarchies power over the people. it’s recognised that all power is Devine as all is one. Some misuse that power when they don’t have an understanding and fall into separation. They use it over others for their own gain but ultimately end up harming their own spiritual progression. The wisdom of the ‘one’ survived through the Greco-Roman empire by remaining occulted and kept alive by secret societies in various schools of philosophy like Pythagorean or platonic. Most of these included a psychedelic sacrament as part of the initiation. Jesus and other disciples would have been inducted into a mysticism similar to this. Instead of hiding it, they wrote letters to various groups of people explaining what they learned for example the letter to the Philippians/ Corinthians etc. It’s better to read and learn about occultism before dismissing it as something bad. As most spiritual texts are written in occulted form, it is incredibly ignorant to take them literally. In that sense, students of the occult know more about the basis of a religion than a devout religious person themselves. What lies under occulted knowledge is the study and understanding of the nature of reality and the ‘one’. what I think is being discussed in these videos is people getting caught up in cults or belief systems. anything can appear real and affect you if you believe it is real. Just for an example, there are a good few groups of people who go on about demonic entities hijacking ayahuasca ceremonies and yet if you go to tribes where this does not happen and you ask them, they tell you “we don’t believe in that” and it doesn’t happen. If you actually take the time to study and understand occulted wisdom, if your lucky enough to break through the metaphor and understand what is being said then you begin to understand just how powerful the mind is.

That’s ok. I’m still interested in what you are saying. 🤗

It is understood and your experience of it is also understood. What you yourself have described is also what has been experienced here. Descriptions vary and may sound different but are pointing at the same thing. This is not based on actualised dogma as the experience of dissolution happened before actualised, philosophy, spirituality or even psychedelics came into my sphere of reality so it cannot be ‘based’ on it. If it sounds similar then we are finding synchronous descriptions of an experience. what I’m reading from your post is that you think we are conflating awakening with the ‘description’ of self dissolution?

😉🤗. May the endless exploration of consciousness lead to new heights of confusion and insanity and all of it is ok no matter how mad it gets. Jump in. We can always rest ourselves back at the still point before the next round. And ‘I’ love all my other angles of perception even though ‘this one’ cannot see them directly, they are the eyes through which I come to know all things 🤗

Go through the enquiry to first distinguish itself against something that it is not. It is an endless exploration till that side of infinity is realised and the inquiry ceases and goes silent. All seeking while in the form of character has to begin with the dialectic till it is realised as a fruitless exercise. One must go through the exercise to learn. If it is in essence nothing with no boundary, it can only ‘be’ but cannot know. If it creates itself into a mind or some order or ability to know things in other words consciousness, it can simulate an infinity of attributes or ‘somethings’. To know itself as something rather than nothing but at its core it is always absolute and nothing. In consciousness it’s always moving, in awareness it stops and concentrates back into a singularity.

Absolutely. And I recognise that experience.

I agree. when I stopped trying to conform to the societal expectations of what a man is supposed to be and just started being myself with confidence, my wife said I was more of a man then anyone she’d been with in the past. To be honest I don’t think it’s the being a man rather it was just being an authentic conscious experience without trying to ‘pigeon hole’ it into a rigid label. If I have ever done anything to ‘try’ to conform to the societal standards of what a man is, It has been toxic and detrimental to my experience.

Yes. It’s just something I noticed when I embarked on this journey. I wasn’t following anyone or reading anything when I tried to figure out a way how to discern what was true and ended up having a spontaneous mystical experience where the whole of reality dissolved and there was nothing left except a dim awareness… which was nothing, nowhere, no time etc. shot back into reality in shock as an atheistic science fanboy having stared infinity in the face recognising it as god and me simultaneously and freaking out. I Tried to figure out what happened and came across an actualised video talking about neti neti meditation that sounded like what I had just done. I took it further by getting comfortable then with psychedelics and discovered the consciousness part during my first ever cannabis ceremony. The facilitator said I was the first person he ever had collapse unconscious but for me it was straight back to the infinity ‘non’ space of dim awareness and I became the thing I was trying to understand. I had to pull myself from that awareness and focus myself into a mind ( some form of mental mechanism with an order to it) but it itself was also infinite. An infinity pulled from infinity almost like two sides of a mirror. One infinity or darkness, nothingness, awareness looking out and the other infinity a mind projecting mental forms, dreams, imaginings reflecting back at itself to discover itself as something as opposed to nothing. I had to focus my mind, consciousness and create structured forms and narratives to recreate the reality I just dissolved or I was not getting back in there. I essentially imagined myself back into a human and became aware of how I was doing it. I became aware of how god imagines things into being including ideas, thoughts, coherent thoughts and linear thoughts to perceive linear moments or ordered time. I was creating it as I was focusing it with thoughts. To hold it within my consciousness I had to believe it was real. I had to deceive myself into believing I was a human and forgetting what I really was and suddenly remembered how I got into this mess 🤦‍♂️. I did it to myself. that’s where I understand Leo’s description of infinite consciousness or the exploration of the mind of god that on the reflective side of the mirror (symbolic description) there is an endless exploration of consciousness, forms, realms, realities, states of consciousness etc etc which is what you get if you go beyond bog standard awakening or enlightenment ( taking that to mean the discovery of the infinite nothing void that is the truest fundamental). coming back a little bit within that awareness void is where consciousness resides. Having become familiar with the placebo tool belief, I’ve been able to shift realities at night while going down into subconscious states so I can explore. strangely I find it easier to explore consciousness this way than with psychedelics. Psychedelics dissolve me too much and bring me to abstract realms where all the exploration and understanding is imageless and formless. I prefer being able to construct ordered realities so I can explore them. I do go into psychedelic like spaces from time to time including 5MeO space but it’s rare and I do psychedelics when I find myself getting rigidly attached to beliefs about this world just to release myself again. it’s wonderful but no one around here ( where I live or even the integration groups from the ceremonies) really understands. This forum helps as there are those who have experienced that and I recognise the same experiences even if they are described differently. so yeah I’m a perception within consciousness and all narratives consciousness conjures up about its forms or existence on this side of the mirror are a way of justifying their existence as real, dissecting them and creating ever deeper stories about them is consciousness expanding itself out, separating itself into more and more ‘things’, decentrating itself…another deception because consciousness itself is still an occurrence within awareness. To get back to awareness it concentrates back to single pointedness or singularity. shit!….. sorry im just after having a small god realisation sitting here. It comes and goes 🤣

Consciousness is the other side of awareness that knows things. Con ‘with’ science ‘knowing’. It forms itself within awareness. Awareness is the ‘nothing’ within which all consciousness ‘something’ takes place. awareness is the absolute and consciousness is god, The mind that formed itself within its own awareness.

Of course… in theory. But that’s far from the case when I do it. 🤣. Possibly the liberty caps are very potent this year. A friend went looking too early and only found 3. Instead of wasting them he shoved them in his gob and ended up sitting in the car for several hours unable to leave. Said it was like 3g cubensis.

My body displays symptoms of anxiety prior to a trip but that’s usually because when I travel using shrooms, they are few and far between. It is the ego that is afraid of dissolving but once it’s done I always facepalm having forgotten how beautiful it is on the other side. I can journey into the mind space with or without a substance so taking less ( what I tried to do last time) didn’t exactly reduce the intensity of the experience. Like you were saying I normally go with 2g or just under. This time I was given 0.8g….. still ended up in white light or god mind space although what that trip taught me was to be more aware of even my most subtle beliefs. I believed I had a blockage preventing me from journeying because I could feel the anxiety or tension in the pit of my stomach. The blockage turned out to be a ‘belief’, the belief there was such a thing as a blockage. It was merely tension being caused by a resistance to just feeling and going with the flow. Insight can come easily in a flow state. Not trying to achieve anything but just being and observing. Once I opened up I was able to master my mind and go into any space I set an intention to go into so… white light. From there I ‘create’ the scenario or thing I am contemplating and understand it’s mechanism from being its creator. You can face your fear and accept whatever happens happens and deal with it in the moment. Like a cold shower. Don’t think about it and create resistance and anxiety… get in there and deal with it when you’re in there. Feel it, recontextualise the experience. Study it as opposed to reacting. start with microdose and work your way up to what is a comfortable space for your mind. If it helps you be at ease then always have someone sitting with you ( but not interfering) to look after your body.

Confidence. Self assuredness( not arrogance) . When I got to a point where I didn’t need anything to satisfy myself, my wife described this as truly masculine, mature and attractive. prior to that I had been struggling with why she didn’t want to sleep with me. I was projecting my own inadequacy onto her and blaming her, assuming the fault was with her when it was me. I took responsibility for everything and became unconditional. I was not just a man I was just as I am and accepting and not needing anything. A great deal of strength, confidence and mental peace came with that and she was all over me like a rash. I became ok with the times she didn’t want my attention and I just accepted that instead of doing what I had done in the past ( questioning, blaming, assuming there was something g wrong with her, assuming there was something wrong with me and generally acting like a snivelling little boy… nothing could be less attractive and demasculating). so I would say confidence, self assuredness and contentment. if you want to go new agey that’s a strong yet relaxed feeling in the solar plexus or pit of the stomach. women tend to suffer an imbalance in this centre too. Everyone needs a balance of their masculine and femanine. So in that sense I would call masculine ‘confidence’

You missed the point. I’m referring to the behavior of complaining about unfair advantage caused by ‘different’ anatomy. Remove the labels of sex, race etc you’re still participating in cognitive dissonance when someone argues pelvic structure and glutes as an unfair advantage and then mentions pelvic and glute structure in certain races giving unfair advantage…. If the argument is stopping people from participating due to ‘unfair advantage’, then…… I understand the problem from the point of view of trying to create competition within a defined category outside of which there is very clearly differentiation but this becomes problematic when reality slaps you in the face and shows it’s spectral nature. There are no sudden and clear lines, everything is gradiated. a woman is a conceptual expression and expectation of behaviour, role and ability that is justified by its underlying biology but the underlying biology is a complex system that can appear both inside and outside a defined range of acceptance. Keep in mind it is being defined by humanity when its knowledge is imperfect and often based on assumptions. so far the study of people claiming and expressing as women but having male biological underpinnings have also been found to have female biological underpinnings so we’re looking at a biological system that contains both male and female attributes. The body itself has a neutral point beyond which it developes dimorphically. If it is kept in that neutral point and chemically developed into the sex that person is expressing, then it will physically take on that range. With strict guidelines in place about those ranges and a trans woman who meets that criteria, there is nothing to argue her being stopped in participating in a women’s sport. just to put it in some further context. Women have testosterone in their system. This is normal. Their bodies convert more of it over two days as a part of the progesterone\eostrogen\testosterone cycle. If they identify those days and utilise it to develope their bodies over time, they can come out in a muscle range closer to males using a male hormones. is it male? We all claim it is specifically male but it’s not. It’s part of a natural female cycle. men and women ( expressions) as defined and shoehorned into rigid categories by us, contain biological attributes of both male and female and every persons makeup is different from the next. Some people’s systems contain more congruent female attributes over their own male attributes where others may contain a more mixed set of attributes. I can only discern from the continued argument from the superficial labelling of only men and women, that allot of people simply haven’t bothered to look into how complex human sexual biology is. I stated it before and I’ll say it again. Our understanding of sexual biology is based on traditional assumptions but the more we study it, the more we find out it is not what we thought. When you deal with the diversity of reality you have to keep in the back of your mind that we may be wrong about allot of things we think we’re confident about

Fertility ( reproductive health) is not the same thing as choosing to or not to have children. western and less developed countries have very different lifestyles, nutrition, sanitation and environmental exposures.