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@purerogue from what i saw and listened of him , i suspect that osho is influenced by an orange touch and you can see that in his style , his answers to audience (notice the type of answers he gives , somehow a realistic style) , his foundation , i suspect that this was the reason that he didnt manage his foundation well and went bad afterwards , leo described osho to be busy with individual meditation (a clue) , And yes of course osho is not full orange because to be orange is to be identified with its worldview rather than being enlightened and use the current cognitive level that you're at (orange for example) , i guess this means there are (orange enlightened , blue enlightened , Note : i didnt read osho's books yet and i intend to do so . Note 2 : correct me if im wrong

When people here talks about different degrees of awakening they might be referring to the spiral stages of awakening without knowing it , have you considered the possibility that awakening is like other facets of mind development levels , also comes with the spiral dynamics stages ? The explanation of it is like follows , a person has enlightenment , but since it can't be communicated (for this era of time where we still can't connect peoples' consciousness together) then what comes after from the person who is enlightened is a communicated "description" of enlighenment (produced by certain neuron circuits into form) , The description of someone for enlightenment will be staged , and it will take the shape of (images , single human authority orders , absolute idealist phrases (religious truths as they call them) , material or realistic or rational (osho style) , shared and environmental values , higher systematic multi-worldview points , cosmic and all-encompassing and non-centric) , the stage that enlightenment appears in is the spiral dynamics stage that the owner is at , Notice that even when you are enlightened , you are still at a certain development stage in spiral dynamics , A person is conscious of so many degrees of awakening as his spiral dynamic stage and cognitive level that his mind is at , he will become conscious of the facets that his stage has reached , I would like to present a way of evaluating different awakenings by using the spiral dynamic stages , Blue awakening , orange awakening , etc , Cognitive level is the complex neuro circuits that your mind develops . What do you think? ..

@Cocolove thank you bud , i'll check that .

Thats accurate , @David Hammond

Wow

This is good

There is no death cause you are already dead , what you experience now is the same as death , what will happen to you is that this mind will stop registering that there is You that is experiencing this , when that seizes , thats death , when you pass this death , you will realize that there is no place to go to , god is eternal .

First start from a pragmatic view , you have limited energy and time right now , you cant do 100000 task a day lets say , so thats a clue for your place in the universe and the whole of universe's laws at work , each part of the universe needs its right , now when you try to develop from this point you will choose to do limited things a day , For me im trying to develop my character , i have a lot of dimensions to develop like responsibility , masculinity which also consists of many adjectives like roughness , confidence etc , Now when i try to practice the whole of masculinity i find that my brain's processing power cant handle embodying all the new characteristics at once , i will have to think for five minutes to prepare each sentence that contain all the new stuff in my interaction , from this point i decide to practice each one at a time , first i choose one skill like confidence and i practice it during the first five minutes of my interaction , then i switch to another , that way i practice alot of them , note: i choose the skill to practice that rhymes with the situation , after some time skills that you practices becomes combined in your character , the brain will find a way to balance them and combine them , so definitely not all new skills at once , give each skill your focus and consciousness and contemplation , while putting them close in order and not 6 months in between , Now , take it from a life point of view , when you learn , you learn the thing you consider "part of my life" , if you dont consider it that way it will be registered in your mind as a temporary and not relevant to you .

As i develop myself , i stumbled upon a problem .. I discovered that my whole relationship was just a way to fulfil my needs , to be loved .. So the whole love was a lie , i didnt really love that person , After i became aware of this i thought i would finally breakfree from these needs , but then i realized that my body keeps craving for it under the surface , by doing activities that are less obvious , its amazing how our minds are hard wired to get those major needs like love and socializing , Then i asked myself , why do we need things , why cant i live without fulfilling them , how can i break free from this , why do we even need love ? If someone can relate to this topic i will be glad to hear them .

@DoubleYou aha i think the word fear will fit the puzzle , deep fear , Thank you so much .

@Mighty Mouse lol i meant some answers but it seems my language failed me , Anyway , thats right its hell of an insight but im still looking for the answer , And thank you .

@Mighty Mouse didnt understand you

so the question here is ... if doubting and considering that you could be wrong is a wise thing to do to eliminate the possibility that you make mistakes with your growth then how can you develop confidence at the same time? for example: when i develope my self i must study it with openmindedness and doubting and asking, but if i keep questioning everything even my abilities and wont have confidence, i would be just lost in doubting and mind games . then how can i combine them?

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