Whitney Edwards

What's been your experience with quitepine?

You're narrowly focused on the subject of hate. Many people might show you love and still act shitty later in the relationship. You can't prematurely judge people on a whim. Get to know a person fully. Who they love or hate is irrelevant. If they're devoted to loving you, that's all that matters. Don't view the world so negatively.

I don't think there's anything as man hate or women hate. They wouldn't date if they were hateful. A person can hate you and still not hate other people. A person can hate men/women in general and still like you. Be open to various possibilities and experiences. Don't be swayed by what you see. You're being self limiting. And this is a self fulfilling prophecy. The more you believe the more biased is the outcome.

I have emotional fragility issues. I can feel weak sometimes when I don't receive love. My emotional behavior might be fogging my brain. So you might be right. Thanks for the perspective and support.

Well you can always find someone better. Options always exist. It's not the question of options. If you are truly and madly in love (for me falling in love is serious business and not just picking choosing random people to see who clicks ) then you would do everything to save a relationship until you can do no more to fix it, it's matter of personal preferences. I'm not the one who easily gives up on people. Meeting people that match my liking and passion is quite rare, not because of high standards, I simply don't get attracted to a lot of people and looks don't matter to me. I like the personality, a person with substance and character and the camaraderie and chemistry I create with them. I'm not an extrovert and I'm not very social. I have a simple lifestyle and I prefer someone extremely simple in their lifestyle. I don't like social media people, they turn me off with their attention seeking behavior, the kind of people who have tons of people chasing them. All this attention validation nonsense. It's hard for me to find people who like a quieter life. So If I find a desirable person I don't like to give up easily. My motto is make it work. Mutually of course. And if they don't listen then move on.

Only if they're bullshitting. Have sex with the right person. If you find yourself having sex with the wrong person, then you are running into a moral conflict. Here you would need boundaries..Are they okay with your boundaries? Will they change their bullshit behavior for you? Actually it can be paradoxically a very rewarding experience when you hear your partner say that they will change themselves in order to stop you from leaving them. Just think. How much growth you can force in your partner if they are receptive to your instructions and confrontation. They will become a better person because of you. You helped them in this process. Maybe now you love them even more seeing how much they're doing to be better for you. C'mon now. Not everything has to be viewed negatively. Mutual growth is the key. If they are willing to change for you, that's very exciting. It also gives you a boost, a purpose to serve in the relationship. The fact that they are willing to change is also an indicator of their commitment to serving you as well. This does not look bad. This is their way of showing their love for you. In fact such polarized relationships have a lot of chemistry that makes them exciting. What's the point of a relationship that's too perfect perfect perfect. That will get boring too quickly. Have some drama in life. It adds some spice.

This video does the job without telling. It just grabs your attention, though I'm not exactly regretting the attention spent. So how should you categorize a video like this that grabs your attention without being click bait.

This also applies to Spiral Dynamics lol. To almost anything. Exception - Newtonian laws.

Sex can make a relationship very strong. It's the kind of sex. Sex can be passionate, intimate and create a lasting impact on the bond. Don't underestimate the power of sex.

This diagram applies here. True or False?

I'm the simp lol. OK!!!!! (AND calling me a simp over and over wasn't emasculation of my own masculinity. Lol. The irony)

I don't know man. Every time he says something, it's so hard to convince that he is digging his own grave. I don't know if he is trolling or what. Most of his posts are just about the same dang thing every time. You're right. I should just stop arguing with him. It's pointless.

@mr_engineer I don't know why you twist the message of my statements. I'm telling you to become a stronger man for your own good. You will never find a man who will say "Yea bro, I'm a victim." It's simply against masculinity. Basic masculinity lies in taking charge. Basic masculinity lies in saying - "I'm stronger than this and I won't be defeated. I'll defeat this." The male brain wants to be the winner in every situation and paradigm. Victimhood is sometimes a self fulfilling prophecy. If you think you aren't good enough, you'll begin to believe that.

Try to upgrade yourself. You'll benefit from healthy masculinity classes. Follow some like David Goggins. Find some life coach. You give too much power to society. Start powering yourself.

And what is man-hate exactly? What does it look like to you? If you grow healthy friendships with both men and women, you'll never experience hate from either one. Radical opinions are like incels. They exist like pests around every block. You have to ignore them. Those are fringes of society. You can't be taking that kind of shit seriously. You also take away your own strength, courage and manhood that way. Who hated you? Sorry, you have to meet your needs your own way through life. Life won't come to you on a silver platter. You meet society halfway. Society gives you enough resources to grow and flourish. Your responsibility lies in grabbing the bull by the horns and creating your own path in life. You're giving into defeatist mentality and for any man this is very unattractive. That's why no man on this thread subscribes to your ideology, they find it disempowering and antithetical to manhood. No, they aren't simps. They simply won't stoop so low, they got some pride. Where's yours?

Sorry, I'm not simping women. I'm just not into fake victim shit. Lol. Women have their own issues too. Bottomline is that both gender have issues. Gro sum bowls.

The funniest part(and ironic too) of this statement is that I'll be the last person on planet earth to be anti-male. I have had the strongest pro-male bias hitherto in life. I'm simply incapable of being anti-male. The planet is dead without men, look around, men run everything from A to Z. Do you think this planet will exist without men? It wouldn't make any sense to hate men. The masculine always represents survival. When you don't have that, you don't have survival. You have nothing to worry. You'll not be the last man on earth.

@mr_engineer you're starting a shit storm in a teacup. Feminism is a very broad movement. I don't know how you can simply box it like that. Are you consuming manosphere content on the regular? I meet a lot of women and they are perfectly fine. They don't hate men at all. Where are you getting all this? Your thread looks like someone complaining why vegans don't like meat eaters. Well that's because they're vegans. You'll always have extreme people in society. It's you who is being intolerant here. Reflect on it.

You're laying in a bit too much into this rhetoric. Strong narratives exist on either side. If you went to a church in the Bible belt, you'll meet a lot of crazy fundamentalists. The attack that happened on January 6 is a good example. Worry about real things.

Where is toxicity in all of this? Parts related to toxicity from a lacking environment and self sabotage. This model looks like an ideal set up that doesn't accommodate for low quality circumstances. Account for? Hunky Dory kind of a model.

Makes sense.

Maybe repressed memories.

I think you forgot emotional.

This is a social problem. This needs to be removed. Psychiatric help can do wonders. It's sad thing when it's taken as an insult, the same reason why so many people will forever be deprived of real mental help. We demonize mental illness. To the OP - I forgot to give enough context. To be elaborate if you're constantly struggling with thoughts and obsessive temptations and addictions an online forum can only give you support but not much beyond that. If you read on the serious medical consequences of your addictions, you are better off doing something urgently about it like contacting not only medical professionals, I'm suspecting that your addiction might have already led to some medical conditions that you might be oblivious to, so go look into that. You're simply wasting more time delaying the inevitable. Also there could be mental causes why this addictive behavior exists, trauma etc. So go seek psychiatric assistance for the underlying causes which will heal your symptoms partially. You'll need to do serious work to get your situation in order since substance abuse unchecked for long whether it's cigarettes or alcohol has long term consequences and dangers and the mind has a way to trick that everything is okay. Rest is your own choice. I was simply trying to warn about the dangers you might have to potentially be facing.