Buck Edwards

Yes yes yes yes this. I swear Leo should respond to this. I literally feel your post in it's entirety. I had this exact same thought. Blessings. Blessings. You are most awesome. Stay blessed.

The soul is eternal. Death is just a point in samsara, it's nothing worth preparing for. Prepare for eternity.

You mean detaching the I from everything I do? How to raise frequency? Do you suggestions/techniques specifically? Nice. Thank you. How will I access consciousness if my survival ego gets in the way? I guess ego is bullshit too? Haha, this cracked me up. This is true in my experience. Are ego and consciousness antithetical to each other? Why is there such emphasis on losing the self? And how can you be conscious of it? Practical suggestions? Thanks. Thanks. Whats the correlation between ego and consciousness?

I'm a follower of Morgue Official. He is a good resource on the subject of occult. I think his thoughts are quite accurate on this subject matter, lucid and logically explained without making it too airy fairy. @BojackHorseman tell me what you think of the video. You'll gain some insight that will hopefully shed some light on your doubts and inhibitions. No woory, I'm in the same boat as you. Still searching, still discovering. I know this thing is hard to figure out especially for spiritualists but I'm all eyes and ears, I try not to be too skeptical of such things, they're intriguing to my mind. And who knows, right? I forgot, I've to re-follow this guy. Thanks for the topic, reminded me of what I left off. Side note- It's called Magick(and not magic), slight correction. have a good day. Another side note- my personal belief on the subject. Everything you believe is what you are. If you put enough energy into your belief, it will be true for you, might not be true for someone else simultaneously, but true for you. See how tricky your mind is? Your belief literally becomes your reality. Not objectively but at least subjectively, this is because the mind is hyper malleable, like a Styrofoam magnet, it will attract anything you make it to attract or repel. Laws of physics of magnetic forces.And quantum mechanics. Furthermore, look into the phenomenon of quantum entanglement and you'll be surprised how much of what we believe is coded already into the DNA of the universe. So what I think is that belief is a strong phenomenon just like a placebo//nacebo. Your belief can do wonders, of course within physical limits, that is. So you simply cannot take belief for granted. Some parallels to be drawn between the idea of magic and the idea of human intuition as well as human belief aka human mind itself. I find this very fascinating. How much of this is true can only be figured by the believer, not by anyone else outside the realm of experience. This experience belongs to the experiencer, as is pretty much the case with anything else. So you make of it whatever you do, depending on your experience obviously. That being said, once again, I think it's all about belief. And belief in of itself is a massive force. It's not so much about whether something is objectively true or false, it's how your belief alters your reality to your belief. I've read the book the Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton and it has changed my mind. I'd recommend it to you too. Bruce Lipton is my big favorite on this topic. And give this a watch too. I don't think it's so much about the occult. I see the occult as only an instrument. An instrument to be used for exploring. I think the hidden message lies in the human mind and it's deep processses of belief, psychic powers and intuition. You delve into the occult only to realize that the real mystery is your own mind, but you were searching so far out there. This also ties in with the law of attraction and Abraham /Esther Hicks is a good resource on this subject. Also there's many more good resources on similar lines that take you to the same or similar conclusions related to the law of attraction and self healing that you might want to take a minute to watch. Esther Hicks, Abraham Hicks, Wayne Dyer, Joe Dispenza. Neville Goddard. Joseph Murphy is my all time favorite on this topic. Similar lines. The power of the subconscious mind. This is the depth of western mysticism that has been delightful. The concept of vibration is also related to the same thing. Here's Abraham Hicks. Few years ago I read the book the Secret and it was mind blowing. I would recommend that too. May I recommend this audio book by Florence Scovel Shinn.

Enlightenment is higher consciousness, infinity, realizing you're God, realizing everything is whole in space and time, Enlightenment is realizing that your spirit is a vehicle of ever present ever expanding infinite consciousness that will tirelessly continue till eternity, samsara and enlightenment is reaching equilibrium through love and realizing that all of consciousness and infinity originates ultimately in the highest purest form of love, the fountain of infinite love and consciousness that is eternally in motion through time, with no beginning no end. Also it's escaping this finite matrix of life bounded by human illusions and experiencing God consciousness. I've nothing more to say. Your definition of enlightenment is not profound or is limited to human spectrum and quite advaita mish-mash misleading. You aren't quite there yet and judging by the nature of the post you haven't put sufficient hours into contemplation or have contemplated in a fast tracked manner using wrong foundations. Be clear, be open, do some more contemplating and explore your mind, do a ton of self inquiry and then reflect on the nature of things and you'll see meaning in Leo's profoundness. Right now you're an empty cymbal, clamouring but not tuning to the right beat. You need some hard work.

@WeCome1 highly appreciate your contribution. Please be kind enough to share more. It's awesome.

I'm ¦¦iSpiritual. (low key, don't know what the point of the post was, you've given too little information.)

Collecting wisdom from different sources.

As a beginner I would need some "beginner wisdom." it's already hard enough. Although I enjoy my own contemplations, I don't want to be in a spiritual ego chamber where it's only me and the wall. I also want to know what other gurus and philosophers think. I don't follow anyone blindly. There's always something to gain from someone. All that is needed is open eyes, open ears and an open heart, rest follows alchemically without too much effort.

Thanks for the understanding and Maturity.

I began pursuing spirituality since age 9 and today is gonna be embarking on that journey once again in the same gusto as I did when I was a kid. June 15. My spirituality day. I remember scribbling notes on spirituality when I was only 9 and I had told myself I'll always pursue spirituality and never stopped ever since.

I don't think this was egoic. I don't wish to deal with negativity anymore. Goodluck with your attitude lol. Bye.

He is excellent and you're excellent too.

Exploring different eastern spiritual practices.

In conclusion. Immature people are devils and mature people are gods. And, Of course, as God you gain access to infinite love and of course, that's all there is and that's all that life is about. Done.

Transcript of video - Opening quote "Maturity is achieved when a person postpones immediate pleasures for long term values." Rabbi Joshua Liebman. What is maturity? Let's contemplate that shall we. Contemplate it together. Have you noticed that some people are mature and others in fact most are immature, surely you've noticed this, in your short period on this planet. Have you ever wondered what makes that difference. And why would anyone wanna be mature. And what is the process for how to become mature, what does that even mean, what does that look like, I'm going to give you an extensive list here of what constitutes maturity and immaturity but I also want to help you not just to give you the answers but to help you to contemplate this stuff for yourself because it's not obvious what maturity is it's difficult to define I have to spend many hours contemplating it, explicating it to myself, so that I could share here with you, but let's start off our inquiry here, by acknowledging that you don't know what maturity is. I mean you know what that word means, you can look up in the dictionary but what does it really look like to be a mature human being what does that what is that process, what kind of behaviors, constitute that, that's not obvious, a lot of immature people don't know. So how do you solve this problem if you don't know where do you go to get the answers. Where am I getting the answers, well. I'm contemplating. This is a process I've explained in the past (ref episode how to contemplate). Contemplate using a journal. Ask powerful questions. So what you do is you start just wondering and contemplating from scratch. It's always good to just begin from scratch because answers coming from other people can distort your thinking and already they will skew and bias your mind into thinking along some sort of predefined direction, towards, some kind of ideology, dogma, group think, that sort of thing, it's always good to just think independently from scratch about these things. Then you have a chance to generate some original answers and then you can later compare notes with what other people have said online so here's a question, what are some of the clearest examples of maturity that you can think of surely you have run across people who are mature in your life and you have run across many who are immature, but then if you look at their behaviors, what is it actually that made you say oh, that's a very immature person or that's a very mature person or that's a book written by a very mature person that contains a lot of very mature wisdom about life or you see some celebrity on TV behaving immaturely what does that look like, what are they doing. So the most powerful way that I know how to contemplate is and I'm teaching you here how to contemplate this is contemplation exercise I want you to try some of this stuff, but the way that I try to contemplate completely from scratch is - I ask myself ok what are some examples of the thing I'm working on, if I'm working on because if I'm working on an abstraction like maturity what the hell does that even mean so you have to make it concrete with examples. So I pull up in my mind at least one example of the most immature person I know and the most mature person and I just ask myself questions like well what's the difference between them, who do you know or have or have met who is obviously immature in what ways did they behave that make you think so. This is stuff I want you to actually contemplate pause and contemplate this. Write down some answers. Answers. Maturity is not a matter of age, many adults and old people can be immature. Although it's interesting because generally speaking the more People age, the more mature they become. So there is some correlation between age and maturity, but it's by no means a perfect correlation. As of course, one of the things we say is that we commonly say that children are immature. That's the difference, supposed to be between a child and an adult. The child's an immature adult isn't it? Is mature. So that's another way to be another angle from which to kind of look at this issue. Is what's the difference between adults and children, adults and children? Fundamentally, what's the difference there? What are they doing differently? How is the child behaving immaturely? And how is the adult behaving maturely? Now, of course a lot of adults days, they act like children. So you have to be careful with that. You can't assume that every adult is mature. Some children are more mature than some adults but generally speaking this is the case and then that makes you wonder well but why why does age make one more mature? What does age have to do with it even though it's not a perfect correlation. And what does it look like? And what does it mean to mature with age? What is doing the maturing there? And why are children generally immature? Why are children born mature? These are very fundamental questions. Maturity is not a binary so it's not an on/off switch, it's a spectrum of course you can have more and more and more levels of maturity. And you can have a mixed bag. You can have a person who is mature in many ways, but then immature in certain other areas of life. A lot of times people have imbalanced lopsided development, for example, someone could be mature in many different ways, but then immature sexually and their relationships, immature in their Spiritual Development or in their understanding of spirituality metaphysics, epistemology or immature morally. So, Just because someone has generally mature, doesn't mean they have all their bases covered. In fact, most likely, you're going to have at least one or two areas where you're really struggling are strongly deficient. Then also you have to wonder what are the costs of being mature or becoming mature Is maturity something that you're just born with? There are some people who are just genetically more mature than other people Is Maturity something, you have to develop over time and if you're going to develop it over time, first of all, why would you want to? And second of all, what's good the cost because supposedly, if it was just all upside and no downside, Wouldn't everybody be developing maturity? That everybody would be mature. And if you look around in our society or culture actually, most people are very immature. How come? But that you also have to wonder so then if there are cost to being mature does that mean I should just stay immature but then what are the costs of staying immature? And which costs are greater. So these are all questions to get your mind jogging and thinking and I just I really want you to contemplate this on your own. But, you know, since I want to provide you with some value here in this, in this episode, let me give you some extensive lists of my own conclusions from my own contemplations on these questions. So, let's see number one is what is maturity. First and foremost at top. My list is taking on responsibility versus blaming others. This is like Quick litmus test - taking responsibility. For gauging, someone's maturity. Immature person, is going to blame somebody else. You're not going to take ownership over situations. They need other people to goad gaude them into doing things and taking ownership. Whereas a mature person takes on the responsibility willingly. Consciously. Doesn't wait around for others to do it for them. Doesn't need some sort of extrinsic prodding either by humans, or by Nature. Very irresponsible people, immature people. What they do is they just they wait for reality to get so dire and bad that then they're just forced to do a thing where as the Hallmark of maturity is that you can motivate yourself to do something. You know, you should be doing the right thing so to speak without having to be in pain and suffering from external circumstances. Like for example, going broke and running completely out of money that would be an immature person's response to the financial situation, right? It's like I'm going to spend all my money and then I'm only going to worry about running out of money once I'm out of money. But then the problem is, it's too late. It's very difficult to them. Do anything about that situation, right? A mature person will worry about their money situation long before they ever run out of money and therefore they never will. And they take responsibility for that. Maturity is knowing that you can act like a child but consciously choosing not to It's doing the right thing at the right time rather than putting it off which requires discipline immatur people are not able to discipline themselves and they put stuff off and they put stuff off and they put stuff off and they don't do the right thing at the right time and most of the time, most of us know, the right thing to do and the right time to do it. But we're just so irresponsible and immature that we find ways to avoid it. So maturity is letting go of that that sort of avoidance mechanism that is there an ego mind it's taking on emotionally difficult things in life doing things that are challenging and life will present you with many challenges to live the good life you have to take on these emotionally difficult tasks or what you can do is you can play avoidance games which is what the immature person does. So mature, he is saying no to those kind of avoidance games. Maturity also means work ethic not expecting shortcuts being willing to work towards certain higher values that you have. So one of the Hallmarks of an immature person is that they're lazy and they don't want to work towards the things that are good for them or that they want you might want something but then when you find out the work that takes to get it you're like I would rather just sit on the couch and play video games and smoke weed and jerk off. The mature Person understands that working for the things that you really value. This, this builds character in you This is not something that should be avoided is not the ideal situation where you get everything you want in life. The easy way through shortcuts, and it all works out, and there's no challenge. So, mature person doesn't even want that kind of life. You see the immature person thinks that that's the ideal life and in the immature person whines and complains about how, oh, well, why does life have to be so difficult? Whereas the mature person understands that what makes life meaningful at all is that you have to work for these things that you truly value that they're not easy. And if they were easy, you can get them just by snapping your fingers and people just gave them to you, then they wouldn't be worth anything, and then you wouldn't really want them is because they are rare and the reason they are rare is because you had to work for it. So, I like to judge people's character by looking at.What is their work ethic? I like to judge people's character by looking at what is their work ethic? Are they the kind of people that like to avoid work at all costs and do the bare minimum amount of work? This tells you almost everything you need to know about a person's character right there. That's not a serious human being. There is no good lifestyle. I mean like, I don't mean lifestyle. I mean, living the good life. This is something a little more deeper than just lifestyle with this this concept, I've talked about before, living the good life, there is no living the good life, and having it easy. Nobody, who lives the good life, has it easy? Because he can't live the good life just by getting lucky and getting a bunch of money. That's not going to produce the good life for you. And a mature person understands this and that these challenges that life confronts you. With that, this is actually a character building exercise an opportunity and that's really the point of life. So what's the point in trying to run away from it or avoid it? To be mature as to face the challenges of life gracefully sometimes life gets extremely challenging that's when you're really tested. And that's when the immature person will crumble in the mature, person will demonstrate his, or her true character facing that challenge rather than running away from it. Now, of course, that doesn't mean that you're going to succeed or do it perfectly, but at least the willingness to take on that challenge. And to give it your best. Maturity is also a sense of duty to others to your community, to Mankind, and even beyond that to the entire universe. Your life is about something more than just, Selfishly trying to entertain yourself or amuse yourself. Maturity is the ability to sacrifice for higher values, which of course requires having a good discernment of, what are the higher values. And that's not always easy, because a lot of times people get confused and they think of higher value things as money, or sex or something like that success Fame. Those become traps. So the ability to discern, what is a higher value? It's not a higher value. Those can be counter intuitive, and it's also the ability to commit. Because to live a life to the higher values that you have, you have to make certain commitments and stick with those over long periods of time. This is not something you're going to achieve what short-term thinking . As I was contemplating this question of what his maturity this following, anecdote came to mind. And I was just thinking recently about how having a child is one of the greatest responsibilities you can take on in life, having a child, it will change your whole life. Even though I don't have children, it's obvious to me that this is how it works. You just think about it for a little bit. You don't really appreciate the responsibility. Your parents took a long until you're much older. The kind of responsibility they had raising you especially if you had decent parents, who weren't completely immature and they were there for you. They weren't negligent parents. It didn't run away or anything like that. If they were there for you and they worked for you, and they raised you reasonably well, just the enormity of the task that you're parents had to raise you well and how much they sacrificed and what kind of enormous responsibility took from them. And the kind of enormous maturity it took from them even if they were perfectly mature and they did immature stuff. Of course, that's a given but but nevertheless compared to who they used to be before they had you you don't even know what your parents were like before they had you how irresponsible and immature they were your birth made them a lot more mature, it take you a while to realize that. At least, you know, in most cases, of course, there's examples of very bad parenting and it's very immature parenting. So maybe maybe you got unlucky, but I submit to you. The following consider that the day that your child is born. If you ever have a child you will realize it in that day your whole life will change because you'll realize holy shit. My life is no longer primarily about serving myself. Now, I have to be a responsible adult but for the sake of someone else. And then later when your Child is crying. You know, when your child is 10 years old or something, your child is crying, but you're very tired yet a long day at work and you're just, you just come home after 10 hours of working and now you turn on the TV. Just want to relax for a little bit before you go to bed. You're dead tired. And then your child is there crying in the other room. You have two options there, you can keep watching your TV and just tune the child out, or you can get up and attend to your child. That would be the mature option. And that's sacrifice your sacrificing for something higher, something Beyond you. You're living for something Beyond you. So consider, how you would handle that kind of situation. Imagine you had a child tomorrow, would you be mature enough to handle take care of that child? Because see here,taking care of that child means you have to set all your personal issues, aside, you know, your personal sexual Cravings, your desire to have fun your desire to do, drugs and smoke weed, and do psychedelics your desire to slack off, and to go partying and clubbing, all this kind of stuff, this would all this would all have to take a back seat, you know. Backseat to the needs of your child. If your child is sick, you got to get up in the middle of the night. Take them to a hospital. If your child is getting bad grades at school, you got to deal with that. And it's just a never-ending stream of this for 20 years. And you never know how your child is going to turn out your child could. Maybe you do all that perfectly in your child is a sort of a straight, A student and all that kind of stuff and you're proud of your child. But you know what, there's no guarantee, you could be the best parent and your child just gets involved with the wrong crowd starts doing drugs, starts doing vandalism joins a gang starts robbing People starts doing violence, maybe even murder someone. That could happen, too. And that's largely out of your control. That's a serious maturity right there. That takes a lot of maturity to deal with that kind of stuff. Just even, for example, let's say your child is born with a birth defect. Just even taking even dealing with that Health. You know, serious health complications to it. Like imagine you're born with a cripple that I mean, your yeah, your child is born crippled or something like that and then you have to deal with that for the rest of your life. Imagine how what kind of Burden that puts on you that takes enormous maturity to just stick with that and not run away from that Kind of situation to embrace it, to accept it to still love your child, despite all that. So good parenting being a good parent is, is is also another one of those litmus tests that's like that's like such a such an honest signal kind of litmus test. You can't fake being a good parent. That takes enormous maturity. You can't be a good parent and be immature. Another important aspect of maturity is self-control. Immaturity is being constantly lost in your own emotions. Unable to act, consistently gently peacefully. Deliberately you're too chaotic. You're all over the place, your mind is all over the place. You're lost in drama. So, knowing how to handle your emotions. Emotional maturity is a Hallmark of I'm sorry Emotional Mastery is a Hallmark of maturity, not getting triggered so easily by things people say or do this is a notion known as non reactivity. Immature, people are very reactive, they get easily offended, easily, triggered, Because they're not in control of their emotions. Steadiness and consistency versus drama and Chaos. This is the difference. Also patience. Immature people are impatient. Always immature. Matured People have cultivated patience. Another key sign that I've identified of maturity is the following. I love this one. Listen to this. Refusing to engage in an emotional manipulation techniques. Huge. What do I mean by emotional manipulation techniques? Things like blaming scapegoating gaslighting denial, getting triggered, getting offended, losing your temper, projection and rationalization. Immature people engage in all of this stuff all the time and they don't know how to stop. They don't even understand that they're doing it and they have no shame in doing these things. That's how unconscious they are.

But the question is, what is mature love? And that's something that is so profound that it goes beyond the scope of this episode and I'm not going to elaborate upon it here. If you want you can find other episodes. What is Love part 1. What is Love Part 2 and plenty of others? There's other one, I have called how to practice love those will get you started towards understanding of mature love but that's That's really the prize. That's why you're doing all this sacrificing, that's why you're putting in the work. That's why you become an adult is to experience mature love. The desire to develop yourself and an interest in self-help. I would suggest as a Hallmark of maturity. Most people are not that interested in self-help. In fact, a lot of people like to shit on self-help to be cynical about self-help. To dissuade you from doing self-help. Talking about as some kind of a scam or something. These are people who are not interested in developing themselves. This is This is not the kind of people you want to surround yourself with. So if you are the kind of person who's interested in self-help, that alone is enough. I can work with that. I can work on you. I can help you if you're that kind of person, right? Because that's the little that's the diamond in the rough sea. We can we can take that dive That we can polish it up. That's what I teach, self-help. So, recognize that diamond in the rough within you. And now just spend the next decade and or to polishing It Up by pursuing your passion, following up on your passion. Of self-help, reading the books, watching the content going to Workshop, so forth, do that, if you've got that inch that passion for self-help, the way that I did. When I first discovered it, maybe fifteen years ago or so do that. That's crucial. And also an interest in spirituality serious spiritual. That's also a Hallmark of maturity. That's also the little seed, little kernel, a little diamond in the rough that needs to be polished up over decades. That's key. Don't overlook that prize. That in yourself. You have something in. You have that diamond in the rough within you, you are a diamond in the rough and I'm gonna polish you up through this work.

How do I become more mature if I actually want to. 1. Take ownership of things. Ask yourself this key question - where am I not taking responsibility? Or this one - who do I blame? In what ways do I act like a child? Powerful and scary questions to ask yourself but If you wanna be mature, take on that challenge of asking that question. Immature persons won't incur the emotional labor of asking such questions because the answers would probably be too painful and require you to make some changes. 2.stop blaming, arguing, judging,fighting, and name calling. Cut this out. Stop it. Also stop creating drama. You're creating a lot of drama. Stop it. Stop whining and complaining. 3. Stop pursuing raw pleasure as your modus operandi in life. If that's something you do. 4. Lead. Lead yourself. Lead others. Leadership roles will force you to become a lot more responsible. Head of a household or some department in your corporation. Taking on that leadership role when that opportunity arises, This will force you out of your self out of your egotism because other people will be dependent on you. You'll feel the weight of that dependence and you wouldn't want to let them down. And that way you'll have less leeway to screw around and to be immature. If you're in a leadership position and act very immaturely, then other people will very quickly put you in your place and point that out to you, you'll get kicked out you'll get fired and so forth and it'll just not be a fun experience. So you quickly learn to be mature in those positions or you will lose those positions very quickly. As trump did. Haha. Rightly so. 5. Learn to manage your emotions. Emotional mastery, emotional intelligence,EQ it's called. (video ref - how to master your emotions) 6. Have an eye towards something higher and larger in life. A life purpose.(ref Life purpose course.) 7. Do philosophy and contemplation. A lot of contemplation and self reflection and introspection is necessary (ref episode called developing introspection, how to contemplate, how to ask powerful questions, how to contemplate using a journal, intro into serious philosophy. 8. Burning through your karma. (ref episode called burning through karma ). Exhaust your egoic pettiness and observe how ugly it is. Observe the ugliness of your own selfishness. Basically that's the formula right there. 9. Next is meet your basic survival needs. Learn to take care of yourself. Become self reliant and independent. Stop relying on others to take care of you. Isn't taking care of my survival needs selfish? Shouldn't I be helping others? But see This is foolish. A mature way to help others is to first help yourself. Ground yourself. Solidify yourself so that you are in control of your emotions. You're in control of your finances. You're not desperate. You're not clinging. You've got your basic sex needs taken care of. Now with the foundation built you have the capacity to help others, to raise a family and be a leader and to maybe go into governance and so forth but if you can't take care of your basic survival needs, you're not gonna be able to really help others effectively. And then to compensate for that inability, you're going to come up with all sorts of fantasies and delusions, and manipulation techniques to try to hold together this house of cards, build your life on a solid foundation is what I'm telling you. That's the mature way to go about it. Immature people are always building houses of cards. And they're always falling apart. And they glue it back together with bullshit. That's basically how that works. 10. Next way to act mature is to follow the principle of right action as it is called. Generally speaking you know the right thing that needs to be done at the right time, you just don't do it because you are too irresponsible. Start doing it. 11. Next way to become more mature is to pursue the good life as I call it. In general, strive to be good. The notion of being good is under utilized these days. People aren't talking about it. You want a good life. Strive to be good. (ref episode called "what is goodness") 12. Another way is to be honest even when it's painful and difficult. Cultivate that honesty habit. 13. Also discipline yourself, work hard, stop avoiding hard work. That's half your problem right there in life. It doesn't mean be dumb about how you work. It's not just the raw quantity of hours, hard work also means working smart too. I'm not saying be a workaholic. You put in a lot of hours. You don't need more than 40 hours a week. But during those 40 hours really work, and make sure that those 40 hours are going towards something, it's going towards something important and valuable, that's generating value to the world. That's serious work. 14. Expose yourself to massive life experience. Take on ever larger challenges and challenge yourself in life, rather than waiting for life to challenge you. 15. Be self directed. 16. Confront harsh truths in general and undertake the journey to pursue the truth with the capital T. (ref episode what is truth, how to discover what's true) 17. Do serious spirituality. That's part of this process of pursuing truth. 18. Practice conscious relationships. 19. Have children. Have kids consciously. Deliberately. That's different than just having an accidental child. I mean deliberately have children. Then work towards becoming the best parent I think. That's very practical. That's most people's avenue to maturation in life. If you're not gonna do the spiritual path, then do the family path but do it consciously. You could turn making a family into a whole developmental path for yourself. If that's something you're interested in. Of course don't have children just for the sake of developing yourself. This is assuming that you want them. 20. Learn to communicate clearly and to articulate your thoughts and emotions. (ref episode on clarity coming soon, conscious communication). 20. Study developmental psychology models. Spiral dynamics. Nine stages of ego development. Huge leg up on maturing yourself. They show you a road map of human maturity. This maturity generally takes place in stages. 21. Practice not knowing from that episode. (ref episode the power of not knowing). It leads you to pure maturity. 22. Stop tolerating immature people. Call them out on their bullshit. Also if you got immature friends and family, you gotta drop them. If they're not willing to mature, drop them. 23. Stop making promises you can't keep. 24. Think before you speak. Especially in this online culture where people are paid to blabber on and on. A matured person would think for hours and hours before they speak because it's important, because that's what a matured person would do. Because that's the only responsible way to speak, when you have a big platform or influence. 25. Stop defending and justifying yourself. 26. Reflect on all the ways you have been immature in the past. What are all the ways I've been immature in the past. You should be able to come up with a very long list. Just think about those. Here's a few other questions to contemplate. Which parts of me are mature and which parts of me are immature. Even if you are a very immature person, you've got some mature aspects to you. And even if you are a very mature person, you've got some immature aspects to you. To be perfectly matured is a hard thing to do. It needs a lot of sacrifice and surrendering. Isn't maturity just wisdom. Isn't there a lot of overlap? We began this episode not knowing what maturity was. It wasn't clear, it wasn't defined and we didn't know where it would lead exactly. When you are doing one of these philosophical enquiries you don't know where it's gonna lead you sit there for hours doing this inquiry on maturity and at some point after 5 hours you realize oh well maturity is just the same thing as wisdom of course. I already knew what wisdom was. But you didn't know that maturity was equivalent to wisdom, it took you many hours of contemplation to get there. There are nuances between maturity, consciousness, selflessness, wisdom. To be able to recognize the same thing from multiple angles this thing, this is not common at all. This feels like a chore or obligation you have to do. Isn't maturity only for certain kinds of people? Maturity is for everyone regardless of anything. Maturity will help you substantially with your relationships. It will give more stability and peace of mind. It's going to reduce suffering. It will lessen conflict and you'll have less instances of getting into trouble. Immature people get themselves into a lot of trouble. Also more success. Being immature is not a very good recipe for being successful. Immature people don't have the consistency that's required to achieve solid success. Or it's very rocky. They get it and they lose it. Why would you want that kind of success? You want solid success especially if you have been struggling, maybe you've tried to be successful maybe you tried launch a business or you try to make some money right. You tried to become successful and it's failing and failing and failing. And maybe now you're getting sick of the fact that you are too immature to do that and what's necessary is not some sort of business in a box, get rich quick scheme, no you need some.. You need to go deeper into the foundation of your psyche and personality and look at how you can fix your immaturity so you can run stable successful businesses. That's probably be the kind of solution you're gonna need. More satisfaction. There's a kind of deep higher quality satisfaction that comes with living in maturity that the immature person cannot even fathom or appreciate. And to live a more profound life. If you want a more profound life,which is what I teach then you can't get that through immaturity. The path is the path of maturity, the path of consciousness, the path of wisdom, the path of goodness, the path of introspection, the path of contemplation, the path of selflessness. And ultimately the reason you wanna pursue maturity is to find mature love. Consider that there's such a thing as immature love and there's mature love. That this is the biggest thing that you're missing. And that this is ultimately the whole point of life and human development is to go from immature love to mature love. And then the deepest satisfaction you get is mature love.

Well what I say is that shame on all these people, I'm holding you to a higher standard, I hold myself to a higher standard, you're better than this and I don't want you to get the some low standard of what you're going to be as a human being from consuming all this online Horseshit content. That's just immature nonsense. You Are after maturity here, that's what we're about. That's self-actualization is about that's what spirituality is about. Consider as an example how this issue of maturity applies, even just outside of Your personal life. Consider the difference between, for example, a mature industry, versus an immature industry. An immature industry might be something like social media or the internet companies in Silicon Valley, you know, their motto has been move fast break things. This is the definition of immature Behavior. This crypto fraud stuff, we're seeing the sort of the Wild West. It's chaotic, there's a lack of self-restraint. Interesting. Here are some areas where you might want to take a specific look for maturity versus immaturity. Politics. What does immature politics look like and what does mature politics look like? Well, if you want more on that I have a lot of material. I think some top-notch material, go check out my series 4 part series called conscious politics where I explain to you what I think, mature politics look like and how different it is from what we're currently seeing online. The next area is relationships dating and sex, what is a immature attitude towards relationships, dating and sex. And what is a mature attitude. That's night and day right there. Family relations. What do immature versus mature family relations look like, Then in the area of business, finances, money and investing what's immature what's mature? Really think about what are some examples of mature ways of doing business. That's still something that mankind really struggles with collectively because the influence of Wall Street, and all this sort of spiral dynamics stage orange stuff, quite toxic immature then spirituality and religion in the area of spirituality and religion. What is a immature spirituality? What is mature spirituality? That's night and day night and day. And then in the domain of morality. What is immature morality? What is mature morality. Now Understand that Immature people are mostly immature because they were raised by other immature people. And one of the Hallmarks of maturity is to be able to deal with immature people in a graceful and skilful manner and this is a little difficult. You know, there's levels of maturity and what's going to happen is that first, you're very immature, then you become a little bit more mature and you look down, you can click. Now, you can recognize people like Trump is being very immature but you're still not that mature because you, you're at a level where you're like in the Middle where you don't know how to deal with immature people. So, what you do is you just kind of vent and fuming And yell at them and stuff like that. Call them names but you don't have That sort of tier two level of maturity and wisdom and Consciousness where you're able to even sort of integrate immature people into Your acceptance and embrace of all of reality. Because, you know, immature people are a giant chunk of reality that you have to, you can't just demonize, that would be immature to demonize immature people. That would itself be an immature approach to dealing with immature people. So what's the mature way of dealing with immature people? Well, that's something that's like requires a double dose of maturity, like, maturity squared, to be able to deal with immature people maturely and gracefully and skillfully. That's that's like some spiral Wizardry stuff right there. That's tier 2. To personally I struggle with that, you know, you might say, well, Leo but aren't you like venting and fuming at Trump and all this? Shouldn't you have a more mature way of talking about Trump? And look, it's not like I'm offended by Trump or anything. It's just that like to me it's just so Preposterous that this whole situation just so Preposterous and I don't see anybody just, like nailing Trump on what he needs to be Nailed on. I watch the news all the time, people criticizing Trump, but they never criticize him properly, they criticize him on all sorts of stupid, shit. They don't nail him on the core thing. So that's my pet peeve there but definitely I have more work to do on more maturely dealing with immature people. That that's I mean that's really difficult. I'll tell you. I mean I deal with some immature people on the forum, in the comment sections. You know, I've dealt with them for fucking years. Frankly, it like it does trigger me. For me, it's difficult, sometimes it like, it gets to you and in the future I anticipate maturing more and dealing with them in a more graceful manner than I have in the past. But that's like that's a real test. That's a real test of your maturity right there. You know, some some spiritual gurus say that, you know, the real test of your Enlightenment is go spend a week with your family living with your family after enlightenment well that's the real test right? Well the real test of your maturity is you know go deal with some completely immature jackass who's trolling you online or something and deal with that. Well that's pretty tricky. If you can handle that then maybe you're more mature than I am. Here some things to consider. Consider a mature conversation and a mature communication versus an immature one. What does that look like? Consider a mature relationship. What does that look like? Consider a mature attitude towards work? A mature way of doing business. Consider mature spirituality. Consider mature society. What does that look like? Consider a mature culture. Consider a mature set of life goals and directions, versus it's opposite. All things for you to consider on your own.

Into the maze. Nice game. Mindful!