BojackHorseman

I'm going to ask a stupid question here but...how is bitcoin still worth anything? Does it even have any use case? Even years ago when I was playing with trading (on a very small level, losing money), there were already many better money-cryptos than BTC for practical use. Are we still on the "digital gold" argument? Also, to be honest I don't get how you'd invest in crypto when they don't seem to have any use (it's been years and years, does the general public actually use them? And why would they?). Like why would I pay with crypto instead of a credit card? Privacy might be an argument but we know what happens, the concept will get used, but under the direction of societies than are not for privacy at all. Real privacy oriented cryptos will just be used by a minority. Also, the world is going to shit, everything is more and more expensive (at least where I live), possible wars and climate distasters to come, most people would probably not take any interest in virtual money, and if so, why? Please note : I'm not stating any of this is right, in any way. These are just the very, very basic views of someone who doesn't seem to understand this phenomenon at all, looking at it like the same old up and down manipulated game from afar.

How do you know if a personal goal you've had for a long time is actually something you want/need, or if it is just something left from the past you (or maybe something some people ingrained in your head in some cases), that is not true anymore, and you should get rid of, but you can't see it cause you've built your personality on it? It might sound weird to ask. Cause I should know what I love. And I know I love some things, but I'm slowly noticing that maybe I'm not built to make them despite my passion, and I might just be clinging to old dreams that are now just building up frustration, depression and anxiety. And if you notice you were wrong, how do you even rebuild yourself midlife? It's already so late, and I've never really done anything that would show who I am, how I spent my life? Sorry if this all sounds vague (also very tired and my english seems totally broken today), but I'm genuinely lost. I'm just wondering if, maybe I'm pushing for the wrong things, cause there's always been resistance at some point, despite also feeling in the zone for some periods of time practicing what I like (but again, am not sure now if I still like doing it or if it should even be a life purpose, or if I'm just building up frustration beliving it is). Also, some people don't have to strive, right? They can just be hedonistic or whatever and that's fine? How do I even know if that's the right path for me? Sometimes I wish it was, but at the same time I feel so guilty everytime I try to let go. It's fun for some time but then..."I should do something with my life. Time ticking terrifies me. I didn't accomplish anything, not in work, not building anything out of my passions, not standing out, not by having kids and teaching them what I believe could make them a more successful person than I am" Edit : I'm stupid, didn't noticed there was literally a "Life purpose" sub-forum, sorry. If any mod can move it here, I guess.

I'm going to be quite bold and trollish here, but I'm depressed and in the middle of a crisis. There might still be truth to this, who knows. But basically, I feel like we, overthinkers, contemplative bunch, are missing the point. After all, life means nothing besides what we do with it. So why think about it if there is no point? There cannot be some kind of truth. That's just looking for an explanation to chaos. There is none. I've wasted my life thinking and it only made me sad. I understand the world well in a way, I also do feel like I get most general truths, but they are not leading me anywhere besides being exhausted thinking about a point in life that I can't seem to find. This balance game is exhausting. I wish I was simple and stupid. But I cannot be because I know too much, and I cannot stay in one quiet place for very long. And life is ticking by but since there is no real point in it, if I go back to being an explorer, I'm just chasing clouds and I can feel it. This is a lose-lose situation that's incredibly frustrating.

See, they told you it was a satanic cult!

Thank you, God

Makes sense. I think I understand things but that's only from a distance. I'm air, water, but no ground at all. I always forget that I don't actually try to use the results of my thinking and contemplation with action. My life is incredibly stale and lacking actual achievements besides basic needs Not everybody does need to build our of the norm achievements tho, I believe. But since I'm clearly not somebody that can keep still and stable in a daily routine, then I probably have no other choices but to try and get fulfilment through actions besides survival work/couple/play/sleep. (either that or learning to quiet the mind and accept enjoying a simple life. Which seems hard with adhd) Anyway thanks for reminding of finding a way to balance and use thinking with action. Funny how obvious this is but how easily I could forget it.

Just make a strawpoll or something to gather data in one place. (I'm 43)

If not, what separates the ones that would actually benefit from that, and the ones who don't? (Obviously, I'm in the process of understanding that for myself but it could be an interesting subject, maybe)

Am contemplating adopting a set of belief (maybe not forever) so I can find a more contained way of thinking (not the main goal of it, but maybe it could help as an exercise agains my ADHD tendencies to jump from one thing to another and never truly commit) Many questions come to me. A few of those are (bad english an confused thoughts, please bear with me) : 1) Do you think that the fact that a religion is older than another has an impact on its legitimacy? (if you consider that they're not fictional tools, but that they actually tell a truth about real entities) 2) In the same idea, I tend to be drawn/fascinated by older religions such as sumerian (which, by the way, isn't it weird that it didn't survive since it's one of the older ones? What actually makes a religion stay more than another one on the collective level?), but I also shake my head trying to get aways from the shiny spell of "ancient magic old things", cause I feel like this might not be the truth, and maybe we tend to see it as such because we've been taught that older things are kind of more respectable in a way? I mean, we wouldn't study way older scientific texts, so why do it with religion? Couldn't a religion born yesterday be just as valid? But then what does it mean, that religions are not tales of powerful forces we are linked to, but rather storytelling to draw values from? 3) Are religions just stories to control people from fear, and if so, does that mean than the "religion" should be avoided and be replaced by science? (which obviously, could be totally wrong as it has been in the past, but I mean, science as we know it anyways. If religion is just a control tool without any basis, our guidelines might as well just be more down to earth sciences) 4) How do I even chose a religion to dive into? There are many big ones, but the number of believers doesn't mean they're the right ones (just look at what huge number of people believe and do everyday). 5) What is religion to you?

Have been giving more thoughts to this lately as I'm basically in a "let's make a baby or divorce" situation (a truly hearbreaking one, eating me from the inside). I instinctively don't feel drawn to children at all, but maybe that's because I'm in a bad place and subject to lifelong depression, anxiety and adhd? Maybe i'm egotistic? I feel like nowadays the safe answer is "just do what you feel like", and it certainly contains truth, and is a needed stretch, as opposed to the older mentalities of "you're a weirdo if you don't have children/are married before XX age"...but also, like all extremes, I feel like this state of mind of thinking too freely might have drawbacks? Maybe somebody like me that can't stop thinking and settle could actually benefit from some sort of routine and reconigizing myself in another human as he/she grows up? I know it sounds like egotistic, controlling thoughts or whatnot, but if had children, despite the fact that I don't seem to like them, I'd be working 500% to make the best life for them while respecting their individuality as much as my conscious mind allow me too. But yeah, I see all of my friends now have children up until 10 year old, I don't want to FOMO, but it does feel weird and make you question yourself, like you're not part of these humanity's primal drives to procreate and transmit your knowledge and values or something.

Basically everything is treated like sports team, even the phone brand nowadays. But I mean, they went all the way to inventing things that don't exist? Oh wait Something clicked while writing this We also did invent sports, and they don't really mean anything or serve any essential purpose (well, maybe the "play" purpose that all humans need). Humans gotta invent and be creative, I guess. It's just about what need the creation serves And as it was previously said in the thread iirc, gods and religions might just be a way to fill the void we face at times, the fear of the unknown. Don't mind me, just thinking out loud, probably doesn't make much sense, brain is very tired and confused these days

Why did humans create gods? The most rational answer to is something like, the search for a meaning in life (otherwise why else justify your life and actions). The other one would be explaining things they couldn't at the time. But then, why imagine "gods"? This is such a weird concept when you look at it from a blank start, not knowing the concepts like we do. Gods don't exist (supposedly) so they imagined something that don't exist? "there's this spirit, it looks like this and have these powers, etc..." Would that mean that imagination and creativity is part of humans from the start? But even then, why blend it with reality as if it actually existed? I'm not looking for reasons to believe in gods or discredit those who do by the way. I'm just trying to understand how such a concept started (and maybe, further on, became so popular like yeah ok this is our lives now) on from a rational standpoint.

Why do we even do all these things? I feel icky thinking about humans smiling, having fun, crying like they're big deal, repeating the same mistakes again, making a fuss out of love, being egotistic, getting their life sucked out by children, rotting I want to disappear. I'm tired of words, tired of thinking about the same small concepts, and bigger concepts are just an illusion so we can pretend there's something beyond, and we're so smart, and connected. What is wrong with me? Humans should probably not feel like that. I have no trauma. Everyone is nice to me. FUCK This is not a teenage vent. This is actually and old man's vent.It doesn't make it more legit, but I tried to fight depression, since I was 16 or so, and despite doing the usual things, I always end up getting sucked literally deeper and deeper. It's not getting better now, it's getting worse.

I mean, do you feel like Owen has resistance to something? It might be hard to say from videos only, but while he certainly has problems, I don't think not taking psychedelics is stopping him from growing. You can certainly all think about examples of celebrities, or just people you know, that seem to be doing more than fine spiritually (even if they're not the type to actually dig spirituality) without the use of psychedelics. But yeah I kept watching his videos and as annoyed as I was lately at him for pushing his dating stuff, it seems like he's finally going back to actual good content. Sometimes a bit too stretched for what he has to say, but he's definitely a great teacher with very strong points in his league.

As much as it might be true and there would be no other way to just say it like this, since we don't know nothing, I feel like it's a lazy answer (not targeting you, hope you understand it's just my opinion, akin to religious people saying their god exist and such law is like that because it's like that. But anyways, I don't feel like answering each post individually cause I don't have much to add, but those are beautiful and interesting answer, things make more sense to me now. But overall I'll just say if humans created gods cause they need to blame the bad or feel like they're being protected, that again shows how weak we are. I mean man religions can or could be beautiful, but the way they're used is absolutely disgusting. One reason I could get more behind is the search of meaning and connection to something. From a certain standpoint, needing meaning is also quite useless. But this one I do feel stronger. And finding meaning in the esoteric, even if there's no god in the end, can also act as a reflector in our personal lives and help us find ourselves (which is pretty much what most of occult modern teachers/practitionners that seem to actually think, are saying nowadays. That they don't actually reaaally believe in occult stuff, but that it's a prism to be used for evolution...and a fun pastime)

Princess is letting it all out About the subject in general, I am personnally addicted to femdom. I'm not even sure where this came from but as much as I love vanilla sex, femdom puts me in a trance that's different. I don't think it's necessarily a loser thing like most people think. I'm confortable with it, talking about it, and practicing it. That being said it might have something to do with being emotionnaly wounded or something, but isn't every type of domination or fetish in sex the same? I don't think like it's causing me harm (I'm not into femdom), I just find the role reversal and contrast in femdom very appealing. But on a slightly lesser degree, it's ther same with maledom for me. I guess I just like spicy things and extremes, and again I don't think that in itself is bad at all. You can do femdom and the likes without them being the problem to solve in your life. (findom might be another thing...to be honest I find the power women have in this role arousing, but I would never do it myself, ever, cause that's actually giving power over my actual life, not some sex play)

When I first read his book/heard his videos, it felt really great, discovering such a basic simple truth, but the more I see other videos, the more I feel like everything can just be summarized into : be in the present moment (sort of). Which of course is the only needed advice in life in a way, but also, once you get the idea, is there anything left to learn here? Not saying there should be. Just considering not following him anymore, because it's just wasted time to me at this point. Please note that I'm just talking about theory here, not practice.

Certainly not 4 hours, I'm actually a total beginner and my longer meditations were around 30 mn But I also have ADHD and anxiety (also 40+ and coming from a very anxious neurodivergent father and mother), so, the bar is probably very low for me. My current challenge should just be meditation streaks. Even that gets harder these days.

Certainly. But the pros to me are just in introducing people to nonduality, and after that I feel like his work is done? Now that I'm writing all that I'm not even sure what my goal was of that I was trying to say haha...If I feel like his teachings aren't useful to me anymore, I shouldn't ask for anybody else's opinion. It just feels weird letting go of something you love, if that makes sense, so I was having contradictory feelings about that. But there is just nothing here for me, it seems, so I should rather use my time to learn things I don't know about (and, well, practice, cause I won't lie, I'm a compulsive information hoarder)

Never said I was But more seriously, I could indeed be just present and listen to him basically say the same truth with different words, but at this point I'd rather learn something else that I don't know of in my spare time. (By the way, I'm certainly not dissing him, I'll always be grateful for what he's doing. I just think at some point we gotta let go of some teachers)

Maybe it's because I'm old and my spirit, motivation, or just my body, call if however you want has lost the spark. But I don't think it's possible for me to be what I once think I would love to be. These days, when I try to draw, or make music, I still enjoy it, but if I listen to myself, I certainly do not have the will to work 24/7 on it for other people. And, maybe due to ADHD (not sure if it's linked, but some people seem to think it can be), I admitted to myself that I don't have any imagination, so I can't really transfer anything interesting into art that would not be requests. It seems like I am slowly admitting that maybe this is just a pastime. But it hurts so much. I'm going around in circles wondering what I should do with my life. I don't want to die being so angry and regretful. I also don't want a child (I think...I mean, they don't appeal to me, and clearly my anxiety, bipolarity and other problems would not allow me to do a good job anyway), so, if I do not put my energy into art of raising a child, what's left? It's egotistical, but I also don't believe I'm made for helping others. There doesn't seem to be any path left. I tried to "just have fun", but even it I'm still kind of passionate about movies, music, reading, etc, it seems like even my interest about those is going down for the first time in my life. I can't connect as deep as I used to, I see the patterns too clearly (even when consuming more challenging stuff), and they bore me. Humans kind of bore me. Sorry, this kinda went into venting, but originally I really was planning to talk about life purpose. Lately I've heard Teal Swan say something like "imagine someone told you that you will never find your purpose in life. Then, what do you chose to do? Your purpose will then come naturally" And I see how strong the idea can be and should generate something, but it just don't.

I've seen a lot of movies but I don't think anything really matches what you're describing. That does sounds REALLY interesting tho. But I think it's hard to not be humans and humanize everything, so it's probably really hard for someone to come up with that, even if I feel it should be possible. Otherwise everything you say is very true. The idea of how movies can inject morals from a very young age is indeed quite strong. And some movies do really feel like meditation even if they're quite rare (or I just don't know them) I'll take the example of Stalker fascinated me from day one, and that I always watch at least once a year. That being I said I reallmy wouldn't recommand it to anyone, it's *very* slow and static cinema.

I do. I did already in the past. But nowadays I just seem stuck in an endless loop of playing, listening, and watching. And every fucking time I do, I feel such a strong need to create things myself. But I don't. I haven't been for a lot of months now. So... I actually don't want to create? Am I even allowed to say "god this is so cool, I'm so inspired, I NEED to do something like that myself"? Am I confusing admiration for the actual need and capacities to create? This is weird because as I was saying, I used to create quite a lot not so long ago. But now I'm getting comfy just consuming, and that scares me. Not sure if I should admit that I ran out of energy, will, or whatnot, and that my time has passed, that I'm too old for this...or if I just need to get deintoxicated form screens and stimuli in general, get disciplined, and get to work before I end up regretting wasting my life. I'm sure some people can be super happy with just living and consuming. I'm not sure if it's my case. Clearly it's tormenting me. Sorry, this ended up being a confused vent...

I don't think it's about self image that much, as I've barely shown my things for 25 years or so, most was for me, even if I love the idea of sharing it. But I think you're right about the stimulation. Very much a huge problem now that I'm thinking about it, I'm literally always on a screen (except when I'm reading, whis is, very sadly, less and less compard to when I was a kid). But on one hand I also feel like it's easy to demonize screens. They are part of humans now in some way, at least of our society. It's a good was to communicate, learn, and other things. I could have this simplistic childish picture of going back to nature and I sometimes do, but I also know that it's not me. That baing said, making more space in my consumption would be good. But to be honest here, just thinking about it, I know that I would have trouble doing so. I might actually just be addicted and trying to defend the drug here. I am very conscious of it as I'm typing it, but I also feel like I'm stuck here.

I find it so strange how "official" informations like that are on various news sites. In any kind of fiction in the past, such event this would have been a total freakout, a groundbreaking event. Now what is it today? Just a random news? Also as I was saying before I'm still surprised that Grusch's statement seem to lead nowhere? The matter just vanished form the news now? Or does is just take time to hear how states and whatnot react about it? Also If both are true, why suddenly so many official news?