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@charlie2dogs what is the desire you talk about to stay grounded in this dimension? (What are examples of that desire) Also, if someone is enlightened, why would they want to stay in the non enlightened dimension? Because in the human identity dimension there is a lot of suffering, I assume when you are enlightened you have no more suffering..whatever the circumstances..I'm not sure about the last point I make though because someone who is being tortured I presume their physical pain would prevent them from going in the enlightened dimension because the pain is too painful and distracting from the place of no self. ...my page refreshed after I wrote this down but yea, it goes kind of the same way @Huz said

I read psychopaths are simply not capable of empathy or emotions for shame, love and regret among others. There are different degrees to psychopathy as well but the general rule is that biologically speaking, they do not have the same brain structure as empaths. Therefore, the suffering they inflict on others cannot be processed emotionally. You cannot change a psychopath as they are born this way and will die this way. Then you have the sociopaths, and these people are "created" by an abusive environment and some degree of genetic predisposition.

Thank you natasha

@Mal @Natasha ookay I think I'm getting it now. But why does the absolute have this insight in "you" and not other people? I wonder in whose brain this insight originated from (of the absolute; because it is one of the first time i hear that i am not me) do you think it's random events? By me asking these questions then from this logic, it is the absolute asking questions to himself? Hahaha

@Mal @Natasha thanks for the insights, but even if you think there is a conceptual barrier between you and the external world, that again is an idea produced by your mind..how can you be so sure this is True? @Mal the Absolute Truth, why is it called that way if also it is human product of the mind? It is misleading no? Absolute means this is carved in stone and no other way. Can we really access Truth? ..ever? How do you guys know if this is really correct or not? Also lets assume you are right (but I am still curious about your replies to the above so please don't dismiss that hehe) ; now how do you access the Absolute Truth then? Is the absolute truth this thing that people who take LSD they talk about? Or how did you guys get in the absolute truth? ..cheesecake ? I wanna know

@Natasha but what you said up there can also be considered an illusory thought..is there a Truth? How do you know something is True? Since I've been on this forum I was looking for answers but now it's gotten me even more confused about everything, it feels like my brain is a milkshake, no more landmarks anywhere and it's not a relaxing feeling. @Raven_Mike I read everything you wrote and I just want to say that it seems when we are into our mind we feel like we are the only person experiencing so much distress, but now I notice that everyone has their own individual distress and in that sense, no one is alone because this is just a fact of life: that being human is by definition intimately tied with suffering. I have yet to come across someone who has never suffered, however when I look at Facebook a lot of people seem to be going through life innocently , then again what do I know? Interesting read btw

oh damn, so you all hiding in basements huh i'm in my parent's house as well ..until rich and fame come to pick me up lol

wow; kind of off topic but you guys are all so smart on this forum o_o i wonder where you are all hiding in real life

Hey guys, I really hope someone will read this, I know there's a lot of things written on the forum already and no one has much time in life anymore, but I feel so alone writing this right now in my bed and I just hope to get some help from someone out there, I'm so lost .. My issue is simple, but not easy : I hate the world. I hate humans, not all of them, but I have a special place in my body where I can feel all my hatred towards humanity. It's very strange because at the same time I love certain aspects of humanity as well (music, my brother's farting jokes, my little cousin's beautiful drawings, the funny Internet memes people make, mr bean sending himself cards on christmas etc etc). Just to give you the context: I was going through YouTube videos and then ended up on rescue videos of stray animals and one thing led to another ; I ended up on crush videos of puppies, kittens and rabbits (fetish videos people pay for where there are sexy girls crushing the live animals to death with their highheels) (I'm so sorry to throw up this information on this forum, but I can't hold it inside anymore, it is rotting in my heart :'( ... I mean I'd already seen horrible videos before.. when I was 12 I watched for the first time a video on dolphins being slaughtered in Danemark and I cried my heart out.. I'm very sensitive but then as I grew up I put up mental protections and I started ignoring these types of videos when I saw one on my Facebook time line (for eg.slaughterhouse videos). But there in the back of my mind was the voice who reminded me how coward I was for knowing these things and not doing anything about it...I just want to be happy, and every time I watch these videos I end up desperate, and wanting to kill myself or everybody.. But then one day, the day I watched those crush videos, I forced myself to watch the next one suggested, and the next, and then started actively searching on google for more gruesome articles and videos on animal torture, dog eating festival in China, slaughterhouse videos etc. I binge watched this shit for 2 days straight... and I'm just your normal girl on the street but now I don't know what to do with this information...I just wanted to see the Human ugly face...how ugly it could get ..and it is so ugly I want to die. I hate this world I swear..my protective bubble didn't pop, it fucking exploded how can I keep living knowing nothing I do will change the world? There is only so much one person can do..I wish I had a remote control to control things everywhere but that is so childish and stupid yet I just can't accept reality I came to the conclusion that I have only two options: get out of this life or die trying. I want to try some thing, but I don't have the courage at the moment, it's so easy to quit on life instead. Help? Am I Alone? Ps. Thanks for reading up to here fellow human.

yes it is; it has been since i was a child actually but i never acted on it because i'm scared of the world and other people, even more so now that im a grown up and things aren't the way i thought they'd be @abrakamowse ok, i'm taking note by the way I also thought again about what you said charlie; what is reality? does anyone know??

@Pelin the rant is not aimed at you or anyone here, it's just that these thoughts came out like this and I didn't edit, that's all..I was motivated yesterday and now I'm back in these thoughts @charlie2dogs and @abrakamowse I liked your replies earlier because you seem to understand something important but I haven't had the experience of a higher being so I don't understand entirely..but thank you for your input, I'll check Leo's video and hopefully it will help @JustinS thanks man, it's encouraging

@Pelin I'm thinking about this now but you said in your reply that i can stop the torture, but what can I do to stop it? Because I am limited in time/money/energy, I wish I could do something for the animals everywhere but I cannot remove all the torture/pain and actually I worked in a dog rescue place before but every time I went back home I felt a deep frustration of not being able to do more for these animals, there will always be the one left behind. And I think people working in hospitals or post-natural disaster facilities where everyone is suffering and everyone in need of medical care at the same time must feel the same as the feeling I felt; that they cannot save everyone. I read everyone's reply here on how I should look inward to come to terms with reality and the reality that I cannot save all the animals (yea yea I know it sounds super childish but secretly I just wished it was possible). I'm going to be seriously meditating and do some inward looking but secretly when I reread your answer I thought, is it maybe possible to completely eradicate pain for animals? Because that would give me hope, the contrary is hard for me to accept because i'd always be thinking of the one who was left behind, the one who is filmed getting crushed to death by indifferent girls in high heels, and I cannot do anything about it. You'll notice I am not as passionate for human causes, I don't know what that makes me..A betrayor to the human species? I don't know but one thing is for sure, it doesnt make me popular among other people but I can't stand the fact that this fight is so unfair to animals, it's like goliath vs David, except david here doesn't even have a sling because animals are fucking voiceless, they can't even tell us what we shouldn't do to them and based on this we have a free pass to do whatever we want with them. Fuck that!

@charlie2dogs, sorry I misinterpreted. .I don't know from my experience it feels like struggle at the moment, I really don't see how else it could be, because struggle is what makes you or breaks you no?

yes @MalI will, thank you.. It really helps me, all of what everyone said; its a long road ahead

@Pelin thank you for your positive words <3 @Mal hahaha thanks for the book

@charlie2dogs well yes..maybe this is all imagination and this struggle is useless who knows

Hey that's cool stuff @Mal ! Is the cheesecake giving you this wiseness? Maybe I should eat more And yes for sure I'm conditioned, but what you are saying is interesting, are there books on this that you recommend? Maybe this is one of the paths I was also looking for. Ps. If I ever meet Mr Absolute/Divine/God almighty I swear i won't resist giving him a big fuck you though...However great His intentions are ..sigh..

@ChimpBrain thanks for the positive vibe <3 <3 i guess as long as there are others who care, I'll keep at it. Maybe I shouldn't say that, I mean I wish I could just stand on my own but I'm not brave enough I think.

Hmm, I don't think I tasted Absolute Truth yet.. I hope it tastes like cheesecake You know when you say that, I'm thinking about the people I saw on video getting executed by drug Lords in mexico (well actually i went to see those too ) and I'm wondering if, when you are in a situation of torture and absolute pain, can it still help to think of everything in terms of these being the manifestation of your True Self? Also when you say its all "you", do you mean everything happens to you because the "you" is testing you ? Because you need to grow out of a challenge? Even if that challenge is torture? I don't understand how suffering is a manifestation of the Divine. For me it feels completely opposite, like the Divine left these places.

@JustinS thanks for the reading and watching suggestions, I'll check it out for sure! And thank you for your help; I tried meditation on and off but I need to get down and do this seriously.. I might have questions after indeed nice image of the onion btw, I hope I don't cry too much when this peels off :)) Hey @Mal, thank you for your advice too. It is an approach I didn't think of ( the accept the non acceptance), I like it! What's up with us being both light and darkness though?..I mean I get that we are both, because I have my shady sides as well, but ...how does it relate to our relationship to what is? Do you mean, because I also have a dark side, I can show compassion for evil acts in the world?

@Kenya yea impacting those around me is the only thing I can do realistically but I have a deep frustration that it's not enough. It's so strange this world you know..on one hand there is so much fun and so much 'normal' (meaning, doing the usual : going out to meet friends, playing boardgames at home, brushing teeth etc) and on the other there is all that gore and desperate cries going on in closed rooms and it's all happening at the same time on the same platform (earth). I can't connect the two together somehow and yet this is what it is. I guess my problem is I want utopia really bad but that is not going to happen .. @JustinS, thanks for the advice too; what in my psychology should I change though? The letting go new age stuff? Everyone says this like they throw confetti on new years, but the meaning is so eroded now, it looks empty ( for me at least)

Thanks for the image @Kenya, but when you say it doesn't exist anymore I don't agree, this stuff is going on as I write, or maybe I misinterpreted what you wrote?