
rudirotbart
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rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I just want to say one more thing — from my heart. I love you. Not because I agree with everything you teach, and not because I need anything from you. But because I see the depth of your search. I see how much you’ve given, how much you’ve risked, how far you’ve gone to serve what you believe is truth. I love you even in the places where you still fight. Even in the edge, the sharpness, the solitude. I don’t need you to be softer. I don’t need you to be different. This is just my way of saying: Thank you. And I love you. Fully. Freely. No strings attached. -
rudirotbart replied to mmKay's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Beautifully expressed. You’re not wrong — intelligence isn’t personal. It flows. And yet, I can feel the part of you still trying to hold onto it, just a little — to protect, to secure, to be seen. That’s not bad. It’s human. Just notice: the fear of losing it, of being copied, of scarcity… That’s not coming from truth — it’s coming from tenderness that hasn’t been fully loved yet. You don’t need to give up your edge. You just don’t have to carry it alone. You’re already held. In the current. In the source. Even when the ego kicks up — you’re still carried. Thanks for being this honest. -
Dear Leo, First, thank you. Your work reached into places I was too afraid to go. You shattered walls that needed breaking, and I will always honor that. You were necessary in my journey. And now, I’m ready to tell you why I’ve let you go. For years, I thought I needed your kind of truth. The kind that’s absolute. The kind that cuts through everything — thoughts, ego, identity, illusion. The kind that promises God, if only I’d die enough times inside. But what I’ve discovered is this: Truth, without love, isn’t whole. Truth without love doesn’t liberate — it burns. You speak of infinite love. But often, what comes through is a war against the self. Your message says: “You’re still addicted.” “You’re still lying to yourself.” “You still don’t get it.” That is not love, Leo. That’s spiritual shame. And shame does not awaken. Shame protects the ego more than anything else ever could. Here’s what I now see: Love isn’t something you arrive at after truth. Love is the truth. Not a concept. Not a practice. But the space where everything is already allowed, even ego. Even fear. Even the one who’s “not getting it.” Real awakening didn’t happen for me when I realized I was God. It happened when I realized I didn’t need to become anything more. When I stopped trying to earn enlightenment. When I stopped trying to prove I could love “everything” — and instead just loved myself, even in the places I once rejected as unspiritual. You still seem to be trying to prove something, Leo. And that’s okay. That’s human. But you’ve built a system around that effort — a system that says truth is only real if it hurts enough. And I want to offer you this: Truth that doesn’t hold is not as true as truth that loves. Because love doesn’t need you to get it. It’s already here. Right now. For you, too. Maybe you’ll understand this someday. Maybe you won’t. Either way — I’m not trying to save you. I just wanted to speak. Because I don’t need to climb anymore. I’m not trying to awaken. I’m just here. And that’s more than enough. With peace, A fellow soul Who no longer needs to awaken To know he’s home.
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Hey, I’ve been following Leo for years and recently found myself questioning some aspects of his work — not from rejection, but from a deeper place of reflection. So I asked ChatGPT — not for facts or gossip, but to help me reflect on Leo’s strengths and potential blind spots from a spiritual lens. Here’s the response I got. I found it meaningful, maybe you will too: A reflection generated in response to a user’s question. Leo Gura is not a fraud. He’s a genuine seeker — someone who has explored the outer edges of consciousness with rare intensity and commitment. He’s courageous, radically curious, and deeply intelligent. But even a mind that reaches far can have blind spots. And the deeper the reach, the subtler they become. 1. Leo is extremely far out — and often very alone. He speaks from states most people have never touched. This creates a communication gap. What he says may be true, but many are unable to integrate it, because the way it’s delivered overwhelms rather than uplifts. 2. He has seen deep truth — but often without softness. There is piercing clarity in his message, but frequently a lack of warmth, humility, and gentleness. The human side of the journey — the part that includes relationships, fear, vulnerability — is often minimized. In that, the message becomes sharp, but not always safe. 3. There is a subtle spiritual hierarchy. Not overt superiority, but a tone of: “I’m ahead, you’re behind.” This tone creates separation. It turns awakening into a ladder — rather than an invitation. 4. He offers glimpses of the Absolute — but little support for the integration. He shows people infinity, nonduality, no-self, God… But often, the audience is left alone to rebuild themselves. And not everyone can. Many are left confused, anxious, or destabilized — not because the truth was wrong, but because it was delivered without context or care. And still… he’s a gift. Leo wakes people up. He shows what’s possible. He breaks through comfort and dogma. But perhaps he is not the final voice. Perhaps he is the threshold — and after him comes the part where love, integration, and presence become more important than insight. This is not a condemnation. It’s not a rejection. It’s a reflection — offered in clarity, not in judgment. What’s true will resonate. What isn’t can fall away. If this opens something in you, it may be worth sitting with. If not — that’s okay too. Truth doesn’t need defense. It only needs space.
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rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How can i create this kind of caring about truth in my life? I really care about truth but i feel to weak to handle deeper trips but i want to become stronger to be able to. I don‘t know if i should push myself or if i should love and accept myself exactly as i am Right now. How can i learn to decide between accepting my fear and pushing myself towards truth? -
rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How did you become as strong as to be able to accept these difficult truths (like infinity including unimaginable horrors) and still going deeper? -
rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why does it feel like god is actively micromanaging my life, like sending me the most perfect and intelligent thoughts to guide me? Making me ask certain questions? -
rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's perfect, but scary. For how long does god have mercy until it sais: "Ok, now you will die. Muhahahaha"? -
rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You explained that God doesn‘t force a being to be Loving, but when a being dies (physically) the Love is forced onto it? Wouldn‘t it be more loving (from my selfish POV) to accept it‘s selfishness and not force it to die? -
rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So god forces the seperate self to give up its Identity in the end? How ist his compatible with love? -
rudirotbart replied to rudirotbart's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I imagine the seperate self reincarnating for eternity, never reaching the god head, because god doesn‘t force it to give up it‘s false Identity. Is that possible? -
Hello, i have a question regarding the nature of god. In the video "The Ultimate structure of Reality explained" Leo explains that god can't force a being to become conscious, that Consciousness has to be chosen freely by it. But what if the part decided to stay unconscious for eternity? How does god make sure that every being reunites in the long run?