theleelajoker

Appreciate the time you took to reply. Makes more sense for me re your more nuanced answers. Enjoy your time and good luck with your (changing) life purpose(s)

"Anyone older than me have a great story about losing direction, forgetting ambition and pivoting back or something" Bias disclaimer: There was good stuff also in darker times, but in line with your question I focus on the extremes of my path: Got a severe disease as a kid. Spent weeks in hospital but survived. Bad family situation as kid, worse as teenager. Numbed myself for more than 20 years with video games and weed. Left home through help of child protection service. Never found a "home", always on the run, lived in I don't know many cities. Had problems getting up in the morning. Zero ambition, zero motivation, zero self efficacy, zero direction in life. Had to borrow money to pay my bills and rely on others to survive. No connection to myself, my body, my feelings, no confidence, no joy. Was depressed and had suicidal thoughts (not intentions), hitting rock bottom. Now in late 30s, freelancing, getting great feedback and contracts without even advertising (thanks universe). Never mind absolute numbers, but this month is the highest income I ever made (thx again). Easy to get to know people, easy to connect, I accept people as they are and vice versa. Sometimes just need to sit somewhere and people (including women) approach me. Have good friends I trust and good relationships to family. Feeling healthier and more relaxed. Stay calm in stressful situations BECAUSE I have seen rock bottom. Learning to better know myself, what I want and owning it. Learning to receive and to be more humble and grateful. Have nice plans for the future and the trust that they will materialize

You probably are right about that. As addition to what you wrote above, I recommend to maximize body awareness.

So you say learning about yourself, understanding yourself will help you to live a better life? Sounds good but it's not exactly news, is it?

Scary crazy woman for me, too.

Yes they have their use, but IMO are very often understood and used in a way a) where the tool becomes the goal b) it's "wrongly" used. Use a knife to cut your food, not to cut your toenails You remember the thread about "universal mind"? Categories re people lose a lot of their relevance once the fluidity of the mind and the mask of personality becomes more transparent

Strong agreement. Well said IMO. Seeing and seeking meaning in words instead of experience. Been there. Still do it, but less and less. The IWOW and the samahdi series of Daniel Schmidt is amazing re this topic. Re this forum : it's a good testing ground here to express some methods, ideas etc. And it's entertaining Sometimes also a little bit of positive influence can be created. But truly meaningful interactions are IME better placed 1) IRL 2) with people actively seeking change instead of confirmation

Ok last one for you (from other meme thread, slightly changed)

I tried making this point in various posts, but failed miserably to communicate that idea in an appropriate way 🙈 I would like to extent it and say "how come we cannot experience and enjoy reality without constant need for label/concept idea"? But I get the impression that this message appears like blasphemy to quite a few in this forum🤷‍♀️

@Joshe You do you. Don't see that further input form my side is constructive.

Tell me two "things" or "people" or "experiences" that are exactly the same.

One thing is to tie your identity to these language labels, the other is to mistake your world for reality, the map for the territory. Categories can be useful - fire is hot, fire burns, don't touch fire. In terms of dealing with people, and other life situations, it is my experience that it limits your experience, typically keeps you stuck in the mental realm. You seem that point as trivial. I say read the books I mentioned. I say look at your last 1,5, 10 years of your life. Check all your mental models. How many of them have changed? How you think you'll look back at this ND discussion and your current model of "people" in 3,6, 12 months?

Me: recommending a book that shows how easily (parts of) the brain fools us when building models. And how we stick to it despite overwhelming evidence. (Watzlawik is also a good source) You: "my model is correct" 😂😂😂

Book recommendation: "no self, no problem" from Chris Niebauer. Part of human loves COHERENCE, not truth. You see what you want to see.

😂😂😂 Thanks for making me laugh. But I don't identify with this. NOT AT ALL. I'm unique, with a unique perspective of life. Same as anyone else. Who is this so called majority of NT people? Where is this so called NT society with different neurological processing than the so called ND's? I don't care much about some YouTube videos or similar, I focus on my direct field of experience through interaction. And when I do, and I go out into the world, all I see is unique individuals. Talk to those "NTs" and I'm pretty sure you'll loose these labels and categories.