theleelajoker

I figured out that there is nothing to be figured out. All figuring out is just a game of the mind, trying to understand what it can never understand and bathing in its self created glory of finally getting how this works. It's a part of me just trying to find comfort in a illusionary certainty that will never exist. Man, I am so glad I figured that out. Now I can finally rest in peace...

I like your thoughts. For me, it boils down to this: Personal development = finding out the answer to these three questions: Which activities, decisions, situations, actions give me (in the medium to long run) energy? Which activities, decisions, situations, actions neither give or take energy Which activities, decisions, situations, actions take energy from me? First, accumulate enough energy to take care of yourself. Second, if energy leftover from above, invest leftover energy into activities surrounding your direct environment (friends, family) Third, if leftover from the above, start to change beyond your direct environment (society, politics etc)

Yes, the title fits your experience and fits the opening post. You made me reflect on my experiences but it had only little to do with your starting post. I was "thinking out loud" and lost a bit my focus and the context.

Maybe Very interesting indeed..Don't even know if the perspective "awakened people spotting each other" fits, or fits for all interactions that are somehow special. For me, I don't know who or what exactly is communicating with me. I had so many completely random encounters - I mean really super random stuff - that appear too random to me to be simply random. Recently, I watched Leo's episode where he talks about God as a "shapeshifter". Don't want to go too deep in rationalizations and explanations, but sometimes it feels as if someone is just greeting me, sometimes helping me, sometimes making jokes, sometimes challenging me. Maybe my mind is making this up to entertain itself, but for me some interactions with people are just different then others. Example for super random stuff so that you get an idea what I am talking about:I sit in a club on a couch, simply listening to the music and watching people dance. A guy comes to me, never seen him before. No connections to him at all. Calmly, relaxed he sits next to me and says: "You and me, we both already fought battles together in the medieval times". He said it as if we knew each other. He said it without me detecting any trace of irony, or joke, or sarcasm. He simply said it as if it was a fact. The way he said it I don't even felt like asking questions or responding. I just said there for a some time and processed what he just told me. I think after a while I talked to him a bit, but I was not sober so I don't remember exactly what I said or how he responded. But I DO remember very clearly that first interaction. In case you have doubts, there were friends with me that saw me with him I am not making this up it really happened

For me it's a mixed bag. Sometimes I waste energy talking to people that don't listen Sometimes I recognize that people don't listen and I stop Sometimes I get mad about it Sometimes I stay cool Sometimes I think it's good to keep on sending the messages about what I believe is important (and how it can help others) Sometimes I think I should just shut up and never mind what others are saying or doing Sometimes I think it's good to try to help people on their path to develop awareness on this planet Sometimes I think it's "consciousness" creating this state of mind for us, so it's a zero-sum game lol Sometimes I think I should think less

I have similar experiences. Can't put my finger on the exact process of how, but for me there is sometimes also a kind of recognition. It's the eyes, the look, a certain way of understanding each other. Same way you said it, it's not flirtatious but connecting in some way. A kind of "I know that you know"

Yes, I also have this feeling. More me, the key to this perception is the diversity in experience and my personal development (mindset, values, taste, level of awareness,..). The more changed, the more 1 week feels like 1 month, 1 month feels like a year, 1 year like 10 years etc.

Can you elaborate on "phasing your consciousness inward"? I'm simply curious. I have a systemic perspective on that. Psychedelics are a powerful puzzle piece, but just one component in a complex system of being human.

I understand: I don't start a war because I realize leading war and winning war will not make my happy I don't lie and cheat to get material wealth because I realize that will not make me happy I will not use other people or treat them as objects because I being authentic and balanced with my needs those of others will rather make me happy I rather stay in the present moment, take responsibility and don't need to blame other people I care more about others because I realize we are all connected ....

I love being taught lessons by random people about their subjective opinions without being asked!

Makes sense. Draymond Green once said "nothing is as good as it seems, nothing is as bad as it seems". I like that quote, it's good to stay even-keeled. Could not resist making a joke hope you take it with a smile

How does this work in practice? 1) Hot woman tells me "Let's have sex" and I think "no she probably has STDs" 2) Everybody fleeing the volcano eruption saying "it will kill us" and me saying "nahhh, I'll be fine"

You made me laugh out so hard! Thanks

Very well said. Clarity allows you to go beyond the positive / negative game. It's all experience, the rest is a story we create with arbitrary meanings and judgments. But as Ishanga said, many people are too often too deep into their own system and stressed out. This stress severely damages their ability to just sit down and to listen. I was the same for a long time...

"Almost always" for me. Approx 100-150ug I get nice visuals, above that it can become crazy, below nothing or little.

I believe that any possible attempt to describe how reality works will contradict itself. Teachings, teachers and concepts are only useful until you realize that they have no use anymore. Don't mistake the finger for the moon...

For me, it's very similar to Diana. As a kid, there was a deficiency in my family with respect to adult role models. Which left me, for good and for bad, on my own very early on. Nobody to rely on, nobody to support me, nobody caring. So, in case of stress, I (used to) rather retreat and distract then seek exposure to feelings, people, situations etc. The good - compared to most people, I am relatively self sufficient. The bad - I am not closely as self sufficient as my coping mechanisms wants me to believe lol. I mentioned it before in this forum - best way for me to let go of it is building a system. Understanding what's happening and how (trauma mechanism, constructed emotions e.g.), regulating nervous systems exercises (breath, yoga, meditations), making conscious (and adapting) believe systems, making commitments to seek exposure, practicing authenticity, psychedelics, taking interpersonal risks by speaking up, etc etc Little anecdote: I was and still am quite happy with my progress in the last months. And I thought many people are dealing with similar stuff. At least that's what I hear and observe. So I even started to give a free course about these topics. The result? Almost nobody came. Those that came - almost nobody listened. They were physically there, but I could see that they were not really listening. Almost no effort at all to even try to understand the information I was offering. After two courses, I am very disillusioned. People are so stressed, they are so much prisoners of their own mind and habits, people are so unhappy - but when given a chance to get out of this, they do not even get to the stage of trying some ideas. They don't even listen enough to get to the point where the would be in a position to try just a little thing and see if it works for them... Why do you think that is? I have my own theories, but I am interested in other opinions. Of course I can communicate better, more clearly etc but I am working in teaching and consulting 10 years+ and given the feedback I get I am confident that I my ability structure and present information is "good enough" to be understood by people that are actually listening.

Honestly, that's IMO the best answer I ever heard. It perfectly fits my experience

Haha I am forming an image in my mind right now. Brain in a jar..I like that

Interesting perspective. How do you personally bridge the difference? Methods, attitude, etc?

Htf do you know it's not?

So the best thing I take from this thread are the four imponderables. Thx for mentioning did not know that before. I googled it and it actually expands into more interesting stuff. The ten indeterminate questions The fourteen questions The sixteen questions I mean, it's fun and stuff to talk about these things. I get it, and I do it, too. At the same time I can see why those questions should not be discussed and are "a unwise reflection" and lead to attachment to views relating to a self." I wonder how many percent of this forum's content would disappear if one excluded all the content dealing with the back and forth about these questions. What's what, who's right, who doesn't get it, who does and does not see clearly etc etc. I'll go into my day doing my own questions. If's anyone up for discussing them with my, hit me a PM How will my first coffee in the morning taste? Will the cute barista girl be there? Will I feel like asking her out? Or am I totally fine just having small flirts in the morning? How much milk will be juuuust right for my coffee?

@Rafael Thundercat All in all, I agree. When working with others (or myself), I learned to typically don't go to deep into the causes. Only as much as necessary to get in the moment. I see emotions as a reaction to events, creating resistance to what is. I like to give them (me) space to question underlying assumptions: Why do I believe things SHOULD be different then they are know? How do I know that things CAN be different? Or is everybody always doing his/her best --> I got [ANGRY/SAD/DEPRESSED/...] because I did not learn yet to not become [ANGRY/SAD/DEPRESSED/...] about [EVENT/SITUATION/PERSON] Even if I assume that 2. is not true --> how do I know, that result of getting [ANGRY/SAD/DEPRESSED/...] about [EVENT/SITUATION/PERSON is not the best possible situation for me? Maybe I need the feeling of [ANGRY/SAD/DEPRESSED/...] to get where I want to be in the future Even if I think that 3. is not true - why do I believe that I have control about [FEELING] or [SITUATION]? Typically, we have no control but influence If I have influence about [SITUATION], then just do it. If I believe that my influence is non-existent or too marginal to effect the outcome - f*** the outcome. Why do I care about the result instead of what I need to do in order to feel good (having clean conscience, doing everything that is in my power)? If I only care about the result, I will always be unhappy because reality cannot be controlled If people don't believe in no. 6 --> pls show me how you control reality Even if they believe that they can influence reality, and "impact" reality by just finding the right "method" --> how do you know, that you need to know NOW what and how do to? Maybe it just needs time and will come to you Even if you find a "solution" --> how do you know that it will stay like that? Hermaklit says "only constant in life is change". Things will change. Then you have a "new problem", full circle. You don't believe No. 9? OK, show me one thing that never changes.... Etc etc.

The thing about emotions - I have not properly seen this when I read it the first time. I believe what you are saying is really super crucial. I think Dispenza called it "working through the emotional charge" of a (previous) experience. Personally, the combination of going through the emotions mentally (feeling it) + physically cleaning my body of it (yoga, sports, or fasten for several days) worked wonders.

Bold emphasis in the quote by me. Yeah, is it truly a problem, or a way of entertaining oneself? Of course, I am talking about self-created, psychological problems on a personal level. "Ego problems" one might say. I am not talking about "I experienced a plane crash I have no food no water no shelter I probably die soon" or worse problems on survival level (e.g. I do not want to live in Easters Ukraine right now).