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I'm not surprised that a channel like this exists with this amount of subscribers. Most people in the developed world are in SD Blue or Orange. Self help is mostly taking off in Orange, her channel is focussing on that target audience. In the general trend, channel subscribers usually only go up, unless some kind of scandal takes place. So if she does her job likes she is doing now, and she keeps in tune with the YT algorithms, she probably will reach 8M and up. Also the notion what a big channel is continuously shifting, in 5 years 7M is not that big anymore.

@manuel bon @fabger Did you at least had a vision of the flux capacitor? 😉 Kidding aside, hope you guys recover soon.

Reminds me of this:

It was a reference joke 😉, from the same group. Although I like the Guano Apes version more. @jimwell

Somewhere where there is some good diving with sharks, like Hawaï or the Keys. The problem is it's full of Americans there.

I will answer to the best of my abilities. Remember my experience is personal, from a different country, in a different era. So don't take it as truth, just as pointers. I will divide it in 2 parts, General consultancy and Being a consultant. But if I can offer one tip, wear sunscreen.😉 General consultancy - As a consultant you basically have two employers, the company where you collect the pay check from and the client where you are on assignment. That means you wear two hats all the time, You think about the client and your employer. That can create dilemma's especially if you have a pushy employer to generate as much money as possible for them. - You usually (not always) work on a project basis. So that means you are at a client for a couple of months or even can be years. But generally speaking being a consultant is an excellent way of being exposed to a lot of different companies. - In the beginning of your career you start at a typical consultancy company, can be big or small. They hire you, you get a steady pay check, maybe with some bonus if you perform well. A good way of starting your career. They will offer secondary things like a lease car (or transportation benefits), health care insurance, full pension plan, etc. The company provide the assignments, if there are no assignments you will still have an income, so a safe bet. Although they will expect you to study or do inhouse assignments in if you're not on assignment. Especially getting certificates, that will pump up your CV. Think SCRUM Master, Product Owner, Lean Six Sigma, etc, etc. A more attractive CV means higher chance of being picked, it can be brutal out there with the application process. That is why a starting at a traditional consultancy company can be beneficial. They will do the client acquisition part for you. - Later in your career you have a couple of options. You can specialize, go more in depth in a particular role or field and become an expert in that area, or you can go into management positions, managing bigger teams, bigger responsibilities, bigger budgets etc. - Consultancy companies have a huge overhead on your hourly fee. Let's say in my time max. 25% of the hourly fee was for me, the rest for the company. - So a lot of consultants will later in the career do a couple of things: - They found a client which they like, and the client want to have the consultant as an employee. Read the contract of your consultancy company, because of conflicting interests. - They go freelance for themselves, they have the experience and network to provide their own assignments. This mean a 100% of the hourly rate is yours. But with it comes, you are your own business and everything is your responsibility now. (Be careful with fixed price assignments, have clear targets, DoD (Definition of Done), DoR (Definition of Ready) - There is also a midway called Midland construction, it's a consultancy company, with the perks. No assignment, you get a base salary, on assignment you will get commission on top. They will provide the assignments, although you can get commission if you bring your own. - Big vs. Small company: - I had this dilemma when I started, two job offers, one small company (40 employees) and one from a big one (6000+). I eventually chose for the big one, for a couple of reasons. - Bigger companies usually get bigger deals with clients, the high profile assignments, which also can pump up your CV. - Because they can attract the big projects, they can deploy a team of different people in different roles at the company, creating a sort safe haven for you to operate from. - They cover different sectors, which makes it easier sometimes to get from one to another sector. - They have offices around the globe, so easier to work in a more international oriented team, or be send out to another country, if you prefer. - The company offers a bigger pool of roles, which make it easier to switch, if for example, you find IT consultancy more interesting then Business management. - But there is something to be said for smaller companies too: - More direct lines to upper management, - Not being treated as a number. - It’s true that you can specialise in different sectors, different sectors require different approaches as a consultant, for example Healthcare/Medical, Aerospace, Finance and the Military rely heavily on following strict protocols. So here it can be difficult to act fast, because department 1 have to give their approval and the department 2, etc. Industry, Distribution, Transport are more “loose”. The culture can be hugely different between the sectors, formal vs. informal, casual wear vs. a suit. Hierarchal vs. flat organisation. Also some sectors require some kind of background check, which when you have done one time will be easier the next time. Don’t forget specific jargon for different sectors, which makes your start up time when you first enter a new client much easier. Being a consultant - The first thing I was taught, is be aware of assumptions, they are everywhere. We need them for survival and making decisions, but if they are unaware and unaddressed can create a lot of preventable problems. A common poster that was hanging in the offices to illustrate the dangers of assumptions. - Being a consultant alone dropped at a client can be daunting. Make sure you get good in absorbing and organizing the correct information. The faster you can make your self at home and understand the core business of your client the more valuable you can be. Don’t rely on documentation only, this can be incomplete and outdated, get your information from every level of the organisation, from executive business to the floor workers. Compare the information and spot the gaps and contradictions, this in itself can be really useful information about the organisation maturity and blind spots of the client. - While picking your future employer, try to ask for a senior mentor (especially one that is also a consultant on assignment at the client you are send to). They can really help you navigate the first assignments and give you direct insights. (Thank you, Charles and Gerard) - Cover your ass, be aware as a consultant you’re an easy target. If shit hits the fan, it’s easy to blame the external party. Document, document, document everything. Especially if it will come to trial, better safe than sorry. Also be aware that you can be used for political games within the client company, they will sacrifice you without hesitation. - Your job is one way or another is to create or safe money for your clients, that can be opening new market segments, offer new services or new products. But that can also be optimizing business processes and being more efficient. (Look into Lean Six Sigma for this, don’t know if it’s still relevant though). Optimizing usually means that the job can be done with fewer people (downsizing). Have respect for that. Employees usually know when something is going to change within the company. If you’re brought in as an outsider, to “optimize” they can see you as the enemy. Therefor develop empathy for the common worker. - Because you will work B2B, you basic work for the client of the client. Get to know the customer of your client. - Act responsible, you’re the face of your employer, everything you will do will reflect back on the image of your employer. - Communicate precise and clear, verbally and written, in your mother tongue and English. - Almost all of the time it’s forbidden to copy client sensitive data. But you will create documents that work for you that will come back every assignment. Report, Project plans, meeting notes, just create some templates that you can easily deploy at new clients without having to create a new one every time. Even client specific approaches, document for yourself, just remove the sensitive information. You will never know when it come back at a new assignment at a different client. - Learn how to do a proper risk assessment, the better known risks and their consequences the better upfront decisions you can make. - Math required, some standard budgeting skills can be required. About Math, difficult to say, depends on your sector, Finance can be high in math. - Using your experience for self-development, Yes, especially questioning assumptions is a skill in combination with self-inquiry I used to get deep insights about myself and the outside world. The people who taught me don’t know how powerful it can be.

Nah, being young is over rated. Just want to big in Japan

Yes, sort of. Former IT QA consultant / (Internal & External) auditor / Software tester / Project coordinator (small team) here, all together totalling 8 years. Worked for big and small (Dutch) companies for big (nation wide) and small projects, spanning from Transport, Retail, Floral, Food, Health Insurance and Banking. I'm a bachelor in Change management. Had my failures and successes. Not active in the field anymore for almost 10 years now, the field has changed a lot in the mean time. Although no excessive direct experience in the role as management consultant. I worked close with them, so I still might have some valuable insights. I'm open to questions you might have.

In doubt go to Ken 😄 @Irina Wolf I have been struggling with the same thing for a long time, overly sensitive periods that turn into almost stoic person as a form of self protection. It comes and goes in waves. But Hurts more, Bothers less is my way of accepting and even deeper exploring this side of me.

Check out my Spiral Dynamics playlist, to check out other perspectives on this topic.

This topic is not about ultimate intelligence. Don't go talking about stuff that is 3 stages beyond this topic. This is a good next step going from IQ as the main yard stick to understanding that there is more than only IQ. Later it can be transcended/unlearned if the person is ready for it.

Look into the different types of intelligences

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying he is a crock or no business in doing what he is doing. Orange/Achiever is a valuable stage, use his knowledge as you see fit. But don't mistake his website is something above that. Scanning through his website, and the link, and the video in the link. I see nothing that indicates, he is above what he is teaching. If you talk about intelligence only as IQ, clear indicator you're orange/achiever. But I will respect your request to keep the rants out. I will refrain myself from this topic from now on, so people can share the information you're asking for. Good luck

This is purely a Orange/Achiever mind set. Nothing more. Dan Koe has no business talking about anything higher, because he has not achieved it for himself. His view of the higher stages are tainted and warped. The bottom line is, when you transcend Orange/Achiever, you transcend the need to be in the top 1%. Use his knowledge only for the level he's in. Use other sources to get to the Green/Plural stage. This is a good start

I'm not saying that. The discussion point broad up in this topic is about questioning the validity of the model because of the bias in the sample size. Which in a certain way I can relate too. The assumption that because of the small and Westernized sample size the theory is wrong is per definition bad science and close mindedness. An open minded person rules in the possibility that even by blind luck the model can be correct, but not scientifically proven. Disproving the model because of intellectual merit alone does not fly for me, especially when in real life I see the validity of this model in action every day. With limitations of course, it's not perfect. @Carl-Richard jokingly says that Cook-Greuter should be dropped off at an island. I live on a tiny 3rd world/under developed tropical island for in total 5 years. But yet my real life observations are just put aside in favour of intellectual theoretical assumptions. I would happily discuss the validity of the model with people who have field tested it. For now this is all swimming on the dry floor for me.

Perfect analogy for the point I'm trying to make here.

Some people want to become astronomers, some want to become astronauts Sam Neill - Jurassic Park 3 I like to get my hands dirty, not blindly believing what is being written in books. Testing theories, not blindly believing them. Not falling in the ego trap that a theory can be proven or disproven with another theory. But also aware that my sample size can have flaws in them, using theory to understand reality. Using both approaches to shape my view of reality, not blindly focussing on one. But I guess this place is lacking astronauts in favour of astronomers here.

Don't forget: Limping Biscuit Corn Smells like Nirvana Alien Animal Farm 😉

Did I trigger something in you? Are you taking it to personal maybe? So if being a gen z/millennial means knowing the world from your desk chair, I'm proud to be a boomer.

So much "intellectuals" here without any real life experience, all their world building is done from their desk chair behind the screen and books. Travel, visit 3rd world/developing countries, and you will see the merit of experience and testing theories. These models do hold up in real life. Yes, there are limitations and some flaws. Flaws in the models and flaws in interpretations. You people are falling into the same trap as the TS was accusing Cook-Greuter of. Model based on theory, so your answer is, fighting theory with theory. Some people like to throw in difficult and strong philosophical terms. That shows even more for me the lack of real world experience. For me it's the equivalent of the image of intellectuals sitting in the big arm chairs smoking pipes. Getting high of their own intellectualism that's not grounded in anything anymore. Intellectuals debating different intellectual approaches, is the same as two religions discussing each others flaws, in the end they don't see there own epistemic flaws. Especially for the young people here. TEST your thoughts and ideas in the real world.

I highly respect John Kiriakou (former CIA agent and whistleblower of the US torture program). He has been in prison for exposing the torture program. In this world there is a high price to pay for high integrity. He has been on several podcasts, most are centered around his time in the CIA and the workings of the CIA Some good insights here in the working of the CIA and governments. This interview goes deeper in his life and geo political topics. Worthy to be listened too.

@MajedAnd this is why Ken Wilber pointed out the difference between Waking up and Growing up. (Next to cleaning up and showing up). Spiral Dynamics is a model that is used for Growing up not Waking up. You have awoken yourself (if I believe it to be true), but that doesn't mean you're in Turquoise my friend. You can be awake in different SD stages, blue, orange, green, yellow, turquoise. If I do the math that means your in your early 20's, 21 to 23 something like that. That is just the age between where the brain is still developing and fully developed. This is the age bracket especially for men they are over confident, lack experience and think they can take on the world. Get some more life experience first, before claiming Turquoise. It will put things more in perspective. Although it is true that we're seeing a increasing development in stages. Heck my 14 year old nephew is already deeply in orange, setting up a webshop and YouTube channel. Claiming to be Turquoise at your age, is not impossible but a big stretch, and reading your posts don't convince me to think otherwise. Maybe we need to introduce a new distinction here, Turquoise kiddies, for people who have (claimed) to woken up but still are in a lower SD development stage. To be honest, I think Leo is in part to blame for this mix up that we see now between waking up and growing up. SD strictly speaking is not about awakening or enlightenment. Although in his (pulled) Turquoise video he touches upon this, the rest of his video and comments on the forum are mixed between growing up and waking up when talking about Turquoise. So I'm not surprised about the confusion that arises with this colour.

This shows a nice overview of different developmental models and how they scale to each other.