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You can't tell me that ethics is the best argument for veganism because it is a purely subjective, relative, and simply intangible fact because it is a tool of neurotic origin; Even if it is completely in denial, it is a way of diverting the libido from the reality principle to the imaginary. "I enjoy eating x" -> "normal", "genital" pleasure principle. (Master morality as Nietzsche would say.) "I enjoy eating x if I have saved enough" -> pleasure principle passed through the filter of the reality principle. "I eat y because it means that I am good" -> Libidinal regression, "slave morality" as Nietzsche would say. Essentially as a defense mechanism against the reality principle during the Oedipus complex and the passage to the phallic stage, which would explain why idealist ideas are more present in industrialized societies. On the other hand, hygiene is a totally tangible value, even if I would certainly not agree, you could try to demonstrate to me that veganism is healthier with studies or anecdotes, things that are based on reality.

Yes, but no one is going to subscribe to his thing.

For now, just his video is seriously lacking in professionalism lol. You can be a radical, provocative personality but still make an effort.

No, it's actually the worst, because ethics in this context is not based on anything tangible and is purely relative, even psychotic. You can actually strongly defend veganism from a hygienist point of view for example, because even if I can accuse you of epistemiological bias etc and basically estimate that you are wrong in the end these are concrete proofs that you possibly have at your disposal (studies).

No even if it annoys you it is perfectly logical. 1) Humans have evolved around a diet rich in meat, especially seafood, fish and small game. So a diet rich in fat. 2) Humans have not evolved massively around the consumption of nuts or avocados, the fats available in abundance in this evolutionary process are essentially if not systematically of animal origin. Some very important fats only exist in animals (EPA / DHA), although there are marginal traces of manufacture of consumption of flax seeds, for example, in the Paleolithic (in Europe from memory) 3) As humans have evolved on a diet rich in fat, diets rich in vegan fats are automatically more effective than low fat ones in reducing mortality from all causes, among other things. Now we should do studies on paleo diets, maybe it already exists i don't know.

A postulate based on simple reasoning can be true, a postulate based on complicated reasoning that involves more data and/or logical patterns can be false. Systematically preferring the more complicated arguent only serves your will to protect your ego, believe system and is anti-dialectical.

The diet of Paleolithic humans consisted primarily of fatty meats and some nuts, fatty fruits, and soft tubers/roots. The high-carb diet has no archaeological sense, it is normal that it does not obtain good results even on those who promote it.

No i meant how it is based to calculate the food score. If you put the foods in chronometer you see that the foods on the left consumed in normal proportion are not so nutritious and there are foods on the right that are. It's like a completely biased way to sell a vegan weight loss diet.

Being nuanced.

Ok mea culpa. I guess phytochemicals make the bill go up considerably.

Humans are also the only ones to wear clothes or make tools, it's natural for humans. By does not exist in nature, i mean that has not been involved in the evolutionary process. Many human ethnic groups have developed the ability to manage lactose and dairy proteins, and most humans consume at least processed dairy products to remove these indigestible products (yogurt, kefir, cheese ...) Veganism is literally not found in nature (in humans evolution), there have been tribes and even civilizations (Indus Valley civilizations) carnivorous or almost, but not vegan. Even Ayurveda does not recommend veganism at all, honey, meat and milk are considered superfoods if digested: Veganism is an ascetic drift even in Indian culture. Humans are highly adaptive omnivores, with a tendency toward carnivory. There are plenty of animals to trap and kill in nature, but there are not fields of nuts, fruits, grains, and vegetables. And when you do find a fruit tree by chance, there aren't many because insects and small mammals have consumed most of them. Even figs in nature are hard to find because even with a thick layer and few calories, insects and mold come and devour everything as soon as they start to ripen a little. Eating fruit in quantity is an agrarian affair, therefore modern, therefore non-evolving. Yes i'm agree. What is good is to do what is suitable for our system, and what is suitable is the result of an evolutionary process that has been imposed on us. Meta analyses are biased, both by obvious epistemological biases but also ideological ones. Carnivores are also biased, for example animals in the wild are lower in saturated fat than modern farmed animals, because instead of getting their calories mainly from starch (which is converted more into long-chain saturated fatty acids) they get them from plants, nuts, fatty fruits rich in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. Humans also evolved mainly with fish and seafood, not modern grazing ruminants rich in long-chain saturated fats, whole and often raw milk rather than cheese etc etc, more biases.

On what is based this notation ? If it's about calories it's hard enough to eat a few dozen calories of kale in one meal.

@Sugarcoat There is a part "The purpose of the ego in evolution" at 1:09:15 You did a topic about that from what i remember, maybe i mismuse.

Be careful, you're selling me expectations there eheh.

I am naturally quite thin in the face that's what i mean. Nevermind.

vegetarianism doesn't exists in nature.

Avocado and olive oil are those people use in doubt when they are both afraid of PUFAs and SFAs lol.

Because i thought i saw the whore and the madonna syndrome.

Oh ok i understand Let's be racist together. I like kindness, intelligence, and fragility. I love girls who are grounded, classy, but who like to be teased and sensuality in general. A bit of a purple, blue, indigo aura in general to give a little metaphor. Who has a tendency to hyperactivity, to have great energy and reactivity. It comes from the psychiatric vocabulary when it comes to bipolar disorder, hypomania is the beginning of hyperactivity and mania is the disabling stage. For me you will always be my slavic teddy bear, just the itty bitty version as you say lol. Being chiseled is my privilege. Thanks you're sweet. pinch*

Yes but you want a girl to have fun with, do/talk about favorite subjects, common activities, take her in your arms, and allow her to jump ball on you all sweaty lol. It's logical, it's easy to admire a girl who "smiles" and is nice, but the biggest gift in the end is to give her permission to abandon herself as much as possible and that takes the form of sex.

Princess arabia is not what personnaly attract me, in the energy. I also don't really like non-white women. But objectively she has everything going for her. Yep By light i meant "hypomanic" I mean thin, frail with a rather hypomanic psyche (in this case) and little interest in serious subjects like spirituality, politics or whatever. Less than your chubby checheeks. Lowkey hopes they look like me*

Like @Princess Arabia with his leopard outfit lol. The one in the picture you talk about is still not the kind of woman, energy that I like. I prefer the first girl, for the same reason 🤔 The second one is a bit too hypomanic, light, green for me. She attracts me, but we can do better.

No she's pretty but that's not what attracts me. Precisely I find her too chiseled, too "feline", something like that. Me i like that : Ofc course she has makeup if you put "thais descufon" on google you will see a bit the scam but i enjoy still, it's way more my "style". Another exemple : I felt into her recently (on instagram), it get close to what i can find "exceptionally gorgeous" : https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAw2duyPC2n/?igsh=MWVqOW53OGZ3ZmJkZQ%3D%3D I don't know the model at all so I couldn't say any names in this context.

It was sexy until i read "plany based diet". : /

I googled, i dont like her head but she has a nice body.