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It is manipulation. When the west was patriarchal and "yang", people shunned the cameras and didn't even smile in the pictures.

No, some multivitamins will on the contrary sedate you by reducing methylation (by niacin, folic acid, b12...)

I know a lot of people are outcasts with weird diets. But when I quoted freelee and sv4rige, it was to respond to the frugivore diet proposition, not an argument against veganism as a general rule. I'm not an English speaker, I'm not sure I understand. It doesn't matter. It's probably true I put "diet" in quotation marks to emphasize the misnomer, because it's generally more a way of eating than a real plan. It wasn't a mark of disdain.

Can you explain to me what I'm wrong about? Yeah, I can see a lot of people thinking like that because they don't like the idea that you can just take a quality multivitamin to reverse deficiencies. A bit like "bodybuilding is not real muscle", but nutrition version. Note that I am talking about vitamin/mineral supplements only, I know there are polyphenols etc that make the difference in natural products.

There are no particular interactions between vitamins. There are often some between minerals, but what a difference between complementing oneself excessively in "zinc" compared to copper, and eating too many oysters compared to the liver (or vice versa) ? What is the difference between supplementing too much with calcium carbonate compared to iron, and eating too much milk/green leaves compared to meat, spinach etc (and vice versa). It's just a story that people make up to inflate their egos. "I eat real food so it's better than buying vitamins" Anyway the soils are impoverished and everyone lacks vitamins, unless they have a perfect diet or almost.

You said the same thing about Zinc and protein. It's like saying that a McFlurry Oreo is one of the healthiest desserts if you "just" replace the ice cream with skyr and the oreo topping with strawberries. If you manage to eat several pounds a day, and miraculously you have no problem, then maybe. This also contradicts your original statement.

Why sadhguru speaks in slow motion and looks like a bottle of orangina ? Why is Dr. Morse is fat and lacking in muscle tone, has gray hair, and talks in slow motion? Why doug graham speaks in slow motion and has incredibly thin skin? Why do 3/4 of fruitarians look like they have dementia/have a shitty stream of thought? Why the only muscular fruitarian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1FCJS8DoM) looks ODDLY (could just be a coincidence, don't get carried away lol) like someone on a high dose of nandrolone or derivative of 19nor-testosterone. Why am I more muscular and quick-witted than 3/4 of fruitarians? Why do most women (like freelee by the way) lose their periods? Why most men are physically weak and infertile (when not on TRT, HCG or even deca roids lol) etc And especially : Why do you repeatedly say that others are ignorant/in denial, when we have absolutely no evidence or rational reasoning for what you say? Are you able to debate and understand that you too have a controversial and marginal opinion ? These are serious questions.

I'm just gonna answer this cause it's getting annoying Frelee sometimes appears on youtube for some obscure reason, for Sv3rige I watched some "interviews" of ex vegans, that's all. Why not answer on the merits? It is not because a person is marginal, even bizarre, even mentally ill that everything that emanates from him is devoid of reason/interest. Otherwise these people are not my "references", I refer to no one, and when this is the case I take people who are said to be the most informed. When I was vegan I "followed" people like McDougall, Fuhrman, Dr Greger... I have read their studies and tried their "diet". Bring me closer to spending too much time on the internet, it's true But don't blame me for "not being informed". agree That's why I eat and do what I want. I remain aware that the body is a war machine for survival and that diet culture is partly paranoia. I eat steaks, oats and red bull and am more energetic and quick-witted than the majority of orthorexics, as long as I sleep well, avoid ruminating...

You are going to be deficient in omega 3, you also need a good amount of protein for your neurotransmitters.

Yes, I posted here because I found myself in front of my computer, and my brain was in such a disposition that I wanted to post on this forum, in this topic, the sentence "free will is an illusion". You can theoretically go back to the big bang ah ah. That's to say ? It is about determinism in the philosophical sense of the term (cause and effect), not in the "vulgar" sense where something cannot take place (pessimism). I do not know if it's clear

Free Will is an illusion

No, you'll just end up insane and azoospermic on such a diet. And anyway do not need a strict diet to be healthy. Diet is one of the least important things

@M A J I lmao You are the most naive person I have ever read in my life.

I want to experiment with cannabis. Which variety would be most suitable for "spiritual" use, I am a novice. I imagine a potent Sativa strain, but I could be wrong.

Oh yes ? What concentration? I am in possession of an e liquid at 70mg/ml

Statins will break your ability to heal wounds, to recover your muscles, will penalize your insulin sensitivity etc etc. If you're so scared of LDL why not just eat more fiber and less saturated long chain fat? Inulin smoothie

Wtf, where do you live? Where I am there are sweets but they are made with normal vegetable fats. Obviously pork gelatin for "gummy" products (Haribbot bears...) and dairy products, but that's it. It doesn't stop people from eating fruit. If your reward system is wired to look for excitement inflammation, you're in trouble. When I was little and very stressed, I was overweight and loved to stuff myself with high calorie things. When my stress decreased and my lifestyle was more pleasant, my tastes directly veered towards sweeter things (fruits, fruit candies/cakes, spiced dishes, any "refined" dishes, etc.). It didn't take the slightest effort. Exactly, there is no problem. I am not saying that complementing each other is a problem, I am saying that complementing each other is further proof that man is not a herbivore, nor an omnivore "with an erbivorous tendency". You didn't read your link. The article explains the daily needs in omega 3 (including ALA), what they are used for and the consequences of the lack of their consumption. Your statement was "carnivores lack ALA" He's not saying that carnivores (or humans for that matter) have a deficiency problem. You didn't read your link. The article explains the daily needs in omega 3 (including ALA), what they are used for and the consequences of the lack of their consumption. Your statement was "carnivores lack ALA" It's not saying that carnivores (or humans for that matter) have a deficiency problem and that's very unlikely if you're liberal with fats and especially shellfish. Having a meat-based diet does not prevent you from eating nuts or easily digestible vegetables, whose membrane contains o3 ALA. Even Vonderplanitz also had a formula based on walnuts ah ah. Probably, according to the amount you eat of course. All that is natural is not good, man has evolved to adapt to his environment which was a part of nature. There are artificial things that come close to this part of nature and won't pose too many problems for the body. I have no problem with a can of redbull, it's not very nutritious (although vitamin enriched) but easily digestible and pleasant, basically a substitute for what you are adapted to in nature (fruits, fruit juices, honey ...). Most of the world's gastronomy has been built on this idea of survival and is based on well-prepared sources of starch (soaking, cooking, grinding, mixing with fats, etc.), seasonal plants low in fiber and well cooked etc. The typical Western/Central European diet has been basically based for thousands of years on animal products but also "sweet" well-cooked vegetables, grains, potatoes and various well-cooked starches with fat for taste and intestinal health, white bread or sourdough rye, etc. etc. The body works with all of this, the real question is what will happen if you start thinking you're a gorilla, go against your senses, and start consuming large amounts of legumes and very fibrous, or just low-density vegetables? nutritionally. At best your diet will become a nightmare especially if you have to consume large amounts of calories, at worst it will trigger intestinal discomfort, large amounts of gas, constipation, carabral fog due to endotoxins leaking through your barrier bowel, muscle wasting etc etc. And, as I have already said before, a fruit diet is also not pleasant and is disgusting, frugivores force themselves by ortorexia and, like starchivores, gorge themselves on smoothie banana dates, "nicecream" etc. Even freelee banana girl (who is nevertheless quite orthorexic at the base) ended up adding a descent quantity of nuts / avocados (which are almost impossible to find in nature, as a reminder...), because all these carbs ad nuauseam are boring . It is probably the opposite that happened to homo sapiens. Primates (plant based) who have been forced to adopt a meat-rich diet due to various violent climatic changes. Men still have primate/herbivore characteristics such as teeth, but have also and above all developed carnivore traits, such as a lean and slender physique, more gynoid muscle distribution in general, a more efficient ENT system, greater sweating capacity , stiffer feet and ankles (propulsion), stronger stomach acid for protein digestion (even more than dogs), intestines still large but smaller than other herbivores/primates, more developed gallbladders, high production of protease/ lipase etc The gallbladder is also developed in humans and I have seen many people develop gallbladder problems on a low fat diet. Agree But back to the starting point, you need to excessively tweak, fix, and season your vegan diet to make it enjoyable. Incidentally, none of the plants you mentioned exist in nature. And excess polyunsaturated fats can decrease androgen sensitivity, increase estrogen signaling, create more oxidative stress during their beta oxidations than saturated fatty acids, or even glucose oxidation. The matrix should theoretically help to compensate for these problems (polyphenols, vitamin e...) but this is only a theory. There was a time when I ate a lot of nuts and my skin/hair was in bad shape. It may be a coincidence but I'm not the only one having these problems. It also depends on the nuts, of course. In fact, most of them are just amino acids that are not very present in plants. The fact is that none of these carnivorous or herbivorous animals come even remotely close to human intelligence, and that intelligence is enabled by an exceptionally large amount of certain omega 3s. Probably for membrane fluidity (or passage of electrons) even simpler than omega 6s, something like that. No. You like fruits, tubers and a handful of well-cooked vegetables, the majority of which have been selected and hybridized. There's a difference between sometimes having gas, and turning into a human jet pack. Depending on your genetics, too much fibrous food will turn you into a human hydrogen bomb and maybe cause you SIBO. Was it meat or plants for that matter? If you think humans are rather herbivorous then you will think HCLF is ideal, both through HCLF propaganda (McDougall, Furhman, Esselstyn...) and, above all, quite simply because there is no abundant sources of vegetable fats in nature. You have nuts, avocados and coconuts thanks to globalization. Sorry I meant Tamarind There is a youtubeur on youtube who made a video about his past as a frugivore with Sv3rige. He explained that once in a state of cachexia, almost to the point of death, he had had a terrible instinctive craving for butter and raw chicken. Another anecdote: a controversial French naturopath who explained that he too had fallen into a state of cachexia, with tuberculosis and pancreatic disease. He explained that he did a blind instinctotherapy "test" among lots of foods, and was attracted the most by a very fatty piece of pork, even though he was more or less vegan. He gained weight and recovered from his chronic illnesses on a "primal" diet. (mainly meat and fruit). Do what you want with it. Probably. So they probably aren't really. It depends on the organs and the preparation afterwards. Several times a week. Most people lack omega 3. This kind of discussion never ends ah ah, it's a black hole of energy.

agree do you have sources? I'm interested Statins are a last resort I wasn't saying that in relation to atherosclerosis, I wanted to know if with the same lifestyle (difficult to qualify), a "carnivorous" diet would decrease or increase the markers of inflammation. The testimonies that I have seen here and there are contradictory.

you are right I may be confusing it with "white widow", but someone told me that this variety was "going to freeze me". lol

You are right, by meat I also meant fish. In fact, I saw a pharmacist doctor on a forum explain that humans were hunters of fish, shellfish and small game (thus white meat, low in heme iron...). Probably true, I didn't do more research. This is precisely the problem I didn't know, maybe. Do you have a link ? It is not Vitamin A but beta-carotene, which is only a precursor. You need at least double the amount of beta carotene to get the same plasma retinol boost. You must be careful to consume plants particularly rich in BC (which do not exist in nature, such as carrots or sweet potatoes) on a daily basis or almost daily, assuming that you do not have genetics that drastically reduce your ability to conversion, which is recurrent (BCO1 Gene) https://www.xcode.life/23andme-raw-data/beta-carotene-conversion-vitamin-a/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9096837/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7353293/ Do you have proof or do you draw this example from the opinion of certain doctors or vegan speakers on ideological documentaries? The recommended amount of B12 is 2/3 mcg per day, roughly the equivalent of a small steak per day, assuming full bioavailability. How do you expect to have the equivalent by eating wild plants (which by the way? most edible plants contain little cobalt, and it is accused of being carcinogenic), where perhaps bacteria have consumed and metabolized a little of cobalt in b12? As a reminder, the most recognized theories are simply that B12 passes through the food chain from insects to larger carnivorous/omnivorous animals, and that large herbivores and especially ruminants obtain theirs by fermenting large amounts (several kilos per day of raw greens ) quantities of plants more or less rich in cobalt in their digestive system. Before releasing the arguments of certain marginal vegan personalities remember that Game Changer, WhatTheHealth and other documentaries were produced by screenwriters of cinemas, that their speakers are controversial compared to the rest of the members of the medical system, and that their diffusion is allowed and protected by the legislation of a country so liberal (partly rightly) that it allows the presence of a lot of sects on its territory. So the only important and easily accessible sources remain animals. You may not be deficient by consuming certain algae, my point is that this is not proof that humans are fundamentally adapted to a herbivorous diet. looks like a nightmare I target personalities like McDougall who insist that protein or calcium deficiency "does not exist" as if that argument were enough, avoiding applying the same logic to carbohydrates. It's not that you'll be technically deficient, it's mainly partially orally available peptides/proteins, the consumption of which has additional benefits. What animals? The most intelligent animals do not exceed the cognitive capacities of a 6-year-old homo sapiens child, and they are all at least omnivorous (pig, dog, dolphins, etc.) I mean, there can't be a healthier modern diet than the paleo diet. If you manage to demonstrate, without possible refutation, that for example a vegan diet is healthier and more pleasant than a paleo diet, then there is a good chance that the vegan diet is the real paleo diet. Vegetables, even cooked and well prepared, can be unpleasant/irritating to the intestines, cause gas, etc. even cooked, they also have an unattractive taste. No civilization eats beans or whole grains unless they are very well prepared (fermentation, soaking, robust cooking...). Humans produce a lot of amylase, but it may simply be an epigenetic modification (due to the consumption of starches), or an adaptation to the digestion of animal muscle glycogen, short polysaccharides (sucrose ) or simply easy plant starches It's true, and precisely that doesn't pose a problem for him. Now can you eat several pounds of vegetables or just pounds of cooked starches a day for your 2000 to 3000 calories a day as a human? I tried to go on a HCLF diet at 3000 calories a day, the most unpleasant diet I have ever done in my life. Not necessarily, maybe even the opposite if your meat is lean. There is also more "unnecessary" calorie loss with amino acids than with glucose. It's more or less equivalent after all +I bought tamari a few weeks ago, it's quite boring to peel and it's not very dense in terms of calories, yet it's much more appealing than biting into an avocado or raw starches. So this argument does not seem so obvious that !a. South West of France Organ meats can taste relatively good (example: raw fresh beef liver), but it is much less attractive than muscle meat, and this is more of a problem (muscle meat is rich in zinc, but organs such as the liver are too rich in copper, can also create an excess of vitamin A and can be other problems). I believe that the majority of large predators including humans are adapted and prefer muscle meat, and that other smaller predators in the food chain are scavengers and eat organs etc down to microorganisms that devour bones , part of the cartilages etc. I don't know if it's true, but I seem to have seen somewhere that white people had higher ferritin because of the progressive adaptation to a higher consumption of dairy products and therefore of calcium compared to the meat (calcium blocks the absorption of iron). To be taken with tweezers. Agree. anything that allows more calories would have helped brain development, I just wanted to say that the consumption of fish rich in certain fatty acids was necessary for its structural evolution. Lol Kidding aside, these guys are in poor health. They may look "ok" on google photos but if you watch the videos you see the destruction. They also wear loose clothing to hide muscle wasting. If you say that you are probably around 400/500mg/dl Have you tested an index measuring inflammation (CRP Reactive for example) or even a test verifying if you have developed artherosclerosis? This is what high LDL scores in particular are supposedly correlated with.

I've never tried oral cannabis, but I'm "afraid" of the long half-life.

I bought CBD to see if it would help with my sleep, do you think it might be enough even if there is 0 CBD? to what extent? A priori I will simply smoke in a joint, maybe add hash to increase the strength. I can also have cannabis with HHC, have you tried? A friend tells me it's great

Spot on I play so I'm a bit extreme about the fact that we are "carnivorous", obviously we ate everything we could find for more calories including plants. You can be vegan and be healthy, I just tease them by childishly showing why I'm skeptical. No need to have headaches

A meat-based diet. Mostly B12, EPA/DHA, Vitamine A. But also Choline, Zinc, L-Carnitine, Taurine and simply a good amount of protein. You can say that the nutrients just above are present in sufficient quantities in a vegan diet, or that they are not "essential nutrients" but: 1) It's hypocritical because vegans are all (or almost) pro-high carbs, exogenous carbohydrates are also not "essential" in absolute terms. 2) Just because you're not deficient in something doesn't mean low intake isn't a problem. A low intake of the above nutrients will decrease your mental and physical performance. No, it's literally the centerpiece. No omega 3 EPA/DHA, no human brain development Moreover, animal products are the most calorically dense in nature, there were no particularly caloric plants in Paleolithic Africa apart from certain fruits and tubers. I've also posted several links that show that the demographic expansion of homo sapiens and his hominid ancestors significantly influenced the fauna of southern africa, as well as links showing that civilizations like the valley civilization industry was probably meat-based. Ditto If science (if that means anything) "proves" that a diet is healthier and it's irrefutable, then it's more likely that it's just our view of the paleo diet that's wrong. Luckily ha ha I'm not against carbohydrates, fruits and natural sources of monosaccharides are good. In fact I eat a lot of carbohydrates for the calories, every morning I eat porridge, I just worry about preparing it well (soaking, cooking) and mixing it with butter so that it is pleasant for the intestines, Oats are inexpensive and quite nutritious. I am still aware that this is not natural in itself, given the preparation it requires, and that oats without butter/honey/fruits/spices are tasteless and even unpleasant. agree Herbivores are very fond of eating food that is not nutritionally dense. Also the plants are not very dense for us because we cannot derive energy from the fibers (which are fructose polymers), but for a ruminant for example it is in fact dense food. The real question is, will the pig choose between meat and cooked grains? And even the answer will be tendentious because men are not pigs. I'm not sure I understood Yes, most people where I am eat almost raw meat, with just a little salt (or not). The bodybuilder diet is a nightmare, even the best food in the world will be disgusting if you have to eat it in industrial quantities. agree, but it's more complicated than plants vs meat. A mango or certain vegetables are very good, kale is not pleasant. Muscle meat, eggs and milk are very good, some parts of the animal can be unpleasant (kidneys, liver...) Lol, i find you very pretentious for someone who bases his diet on biblical writings and the opinion of some engineer. And from the youtube videos of course, I recognized Neil Barnard's "children playing with the rabbit" argument ah ah. Except that just watching videos from nutritionfact.org and neil barnard isn't enough to be "scientifically informed" or simply show yourself to be an exceptionally rational person.

looks like torture