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Basman replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Conspiracy theorists have low epistemic standards. It's also a way of explaining away responsibility for one's life, when you think that essentially mythical forces are the one's making you unhappy. People hardcore into conspiracy theories tend to have experienced tragedies in their life I think. -
Consider that you can get the benefits of a vegan diets by just eating way more veggies and cutting out junk food. And it would be way easier and more realistic for most people than being vegan. Why would I make my life harder if I can live optimally with animal products? The vegan argument has to be an ethical one. And that's where I think it becomes harder to win over people because solidarity for animals is probably limited in extent. You can clearly see with how less an animal looks like us (IE. mammalian), the less we consider it as having rights, like fish or bugs. Vegans themselves broadly prioritize cows and other cute animals I think. Humans don't naturally see animals as equal to them I believe. It's a huge challenge. I also think vegans being so moralistic and closed off to compromise hurts their cause. You can easily argue for that people need to eat more veggies and less meat without needing them to go 100. 100% being the baseline makes vegan look extreme and impractical. It makes me suspect that many vegans use ideology to cope with certain personal issues, because of how fatherless they can act.
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Humans are omnivores. No hunter-gatherer tribe observed have been strictly frugivores. Modern produce is so far removed what wild fruit and seeds originally look like in the wild. Modern produce represents generations of human manipulation and selective breeding. Also, do you think that when ancient man finds honey that he would eat around the larva? I think that to be highly unlikely myself. Meat has higher bioavailability and is easier to digest. Makes sense of you consider meat predegisted plant matter. There's a reason why most cultures eat more meat when they get rich. Herbivores will oportunistically eat meat given the chance. It's an effective source of nutrients that can be hard to find in plants. These communities are predominately farmers in tight knot community, like Okinawans. They eat a lot of veggies but also fish. Daily exercise, socialization and purpose are major factors too. Diet is only one aspect. There are no societies that are vegan. You forget that veganism is an ethical construct. This people would still eat a burger if you gave it to them. No, it's misinformation. It's fine to make ethical and nutritional arguments to the extend that you acknowledge the role animal products play nutritionally, but it has to be true. Vegans can't twist facts and make up shit to serve one's ideology. That is the worst and most idiotic aspect of veganism, the tendency to just make up shit. Great example of the tendency of greenies to disregard rigor. It's why they will not only fail at their endeavors, but will make things worse in many circumstances. Again, don't forget veganism is an ethical philosophy, not a dietary one. There are certain benefits nutritionally on average, but you are making huge sacrifices by virtue of cutting out an entire kingdome of foods. The point is ethics, not nutrition. Vegans are eager to gloss over this because I think they know it's hard and unappealing.
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Wasn't it at Blizzard where routinely breastmilk was stolen from a female employee?
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Pets are easy compared to real relationships. They don't demand much of you besides consistent food and exercise.
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There's a cutoff point where paying more doesn't increase quality. Luxury brands are primarily status objects. Your paying for the brand and the fact that it is expensive. These clothes also tend to be really flashy and ugly in my opinion. It's a scam. Some good advice is to search stores that are a little bit more expensive than the dollar stores (HnM, New Yorker, etc.) because they sometimes have surplus clothes heavily discounted since less people go to the expensive stores. I got one of my favorite polos for cheap that way. Really high quality and durable thing.
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You can show all the gore porn you want. People are still going to eat that burger.
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Maybe factory farming will be scaled back over time and improved as a practice due to ethical considerations, but animal husbandry is unlikely to ever end in my opinion. It's not realistic to think it will. It doesn't help that a vegan diet is nutritionally more difficult than omnivore one (less options and bioavailability). I think it is though, perhaps even impossible, for most humans to have solidarity for other animals like we have for people. How can you convince people that don't care?
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I haven't had time to watch the video yet, but I don't see how CIA and Mossad needed to smuggle arms when both the US and Israel are major arms manufacturers unless what they where doing was illegal and outside of government approval. Are they stupid?
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True. Culture war is largely algorithmic. It's more like a lack of trust in institutions. Certain progressives policies, like for example immigration, where implemented without broad consent from the populace. That creates a sense that politics is opaque and not working in your interests, and is a bipartisan feeling in my opinion, but probably stronger among many conservatives. The appeal of authoritarianism is that it gives voters a sense of agency. When MAGA sees protesters getting shot by ICE it's like the other shoe dropping for them. Note that Trump and his voters aren't truly conservative by definition because he's undermining institutions and democracy as a whole. They are in fact revolutionary. By definition the opposite of conservative. Reactionaries are probably also largely algorithmic in nature, but radical feminists have existed from the very start.
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Yes, but it needs to be more structural than just money. Just money is compensating for structural disincentives.
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@Leo Gura What do you recommend?
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How do you guys approach the sentence completion exercises in Six Pillars of Self-esteem, as in, do you do all the exercises in the chapters or just the program at the end of book? Or is it better to do all the exercises in the chapters first then the program afterwards. That would easily take up to a year lol
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In my experience it's because they can come off as weird and they typically can't follow the subtleties of conversation. That's not necessarily bad thing, but having to meet certain people half way can be uninteresting and/or grating to a lot of people. You have to appreciate that non-conformity can be scary to people-and off-putting if it comes off as uncontrolled. Nonsense. There doesn't exist a better time to be alive to be non-typical. People have never before been more tolerant and aware of neurodivergence and stuff. Free love hippies are just trends. It's just partying with a veneer of spirituality. Eventually survival demands something more stable than constant partying.
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I agree that people broadly should be more understanding, but I also think it is worth empathizing with people not knowing or not having the patience to deal with certain degrees of retardation, to put it bluntly.
