Basman

There are sex dolls of aliens out there, so that is not even the weirdest thing yet. If and when androids becomes a reality there will be some interesting discussions surrounding the ethics of creating child androids and consequently fucking them. Female sex-bots as well but to a lesser degree I think. It will depend a lot on how much autonomy an android has. What if you accidentally rape a child because you thought they where an android? Could that be used as a legal defense?

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I feel like this is an issue with left in general, not just in the US. Its why I never vote far left. They are too idealistic and entrenched in their own culture and are bad at politics in my opinion.

Pedophilia panic has turned into hysteria at this point. I can't stand blatant and wilful ignorance.

Your either implying that fantasy leads to real life consequences or just calling it weird, in which case who cares?

I see what you saying but legality don't equate to ethics. There are plenty of things that are legal but arguably unethical, such as corporate lobbying. Having sex a child sex doll can be unethical if there's evidence that it causes harm. The issue is that there is just a lack of actual evidence in part because you can't really research the dichotomy between sex with a child doll and an actual child for obvious reasons. I don't blame you for thinking its gross but you are really just appealing to normativity and making slippery slope arguments if people deviate from said normativity.

Are you implying that pedophiles always seek to rape real life children? How can you be so certain?

1600s: witches 1960s: communists 1990s: satanists 2000s: terrorists 2020s: pedophiles

There is a clear difference between fantasy and tangible actions. If you play a lot of video games, you are typically engaging in violent fantasies. That doesn't mean you are going to kill people in real life. Or another example, a lot of women fantasize about getting raped. Doesn't mean they actually want to get raped.

Buts it is just a doll. There a plenty of pedophiles who aware of how harmful their sexual desire would be if acted on a child and spend their whole life suppressing their urges. Some even get their balls snipped to get rid of their urges. From a Kantian perspective, these pedophiles are highly moral (in a good way) since they are actively resisting the urge to do evil. What are you supposed to do if you are born or made "evil"? What does it matter if they have sex with a doll?

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Its not equivalent. They are dolls. What you are reacting against is the sexual fantasy of a pedophile. Not explicit consumption of child porn in of itself. I'm playing devil's advocate, but who is getting hurt here? And yes it is largely illegal to own these dolls as far as I'm aware. I also believe that realistic depictions of children in sexual art is also illegal (there being a distinction between "realistic" and "loli" for instance). That would be the point of a child sex doll lol.

I understand that things are difficult for you. It sounds like you have some serious mental health issues and I'd implore you to consider what options are available to you in terms of treatment or support. Be careful of blaming others excessively for your predicament. It doesn't really benefit you and can make you hopeless. Hope is a lot about how you choose to frame your situation. Consider that have the freedom to choose to see your situation as changeable.

Sounds like a foregone conclusion to me. that is the insidious self-sabotage of incel ideology, to justify complacency, apathy and self-loathing. It is in a sense easier than having to try at life.

Are you being denied this treatment right now? What can you do to get the treatment you need right now?

From being stereotyped unfairly you mean? Or from being sexual abused, if you don't mind me asking?

You shouldn't take the most extreme voices as representative of the general vibe. Yeah, some people feel strongly about Trump for example but there are often good reason for that if you are willing to listen and give the benefit of the doubt. A lot of discourse on social media deteriorates because A) the loudest and most extreme floats to the top and B) people don't tend to give the benefit of the doubt when someone sounds stupid or dramatic even though they might have a point to a certain degree. Just don't take it so seriously.

Yeah, stereotyping around male victims of sexual abuse is problematic, but wanting to kill yourself over it is a bit alarming, no? Consider seeking treatment if you often feel like that.

I think this discussion has a definition a problem as it hinges on what you define "natural" to mean exactly. Arguably, there is nothing inherently unnatural about social constructs as its an expression of how humans survive. If you take away the ability to socially construct and create culture you take away what it means to be human. In my opinion, there's nothing unnatural about sports and games. Its a natural way to hone our cooperation skills and exert ourselves in a safe way among various other things. Stone-Age people likely had games of some kind to. Prehistoric caves in Japan have paintings depicting wrestling on the walls. If you do physical exercises with no socially constructed rules that would deem it a sport they would be simply be exercises or play. You'd eventually grow bored and think of limitations and rules to make things interesting.

What makes porn low-conscious is that its sex and sex is an inherently a low-conscious need. I like the drug dealer example above. There are degrees of consciousness within being a fentanyl dealer but your still just selling fentanyl at the end of the day.

Why is suffering even a problem from the perspective of enlightenment? Surely, not wanting to suffer is a human/creature bias and irrelevant to enlightenment. Just spitballing.

No not necessarily, but porn is inherently low conscious and base. There can be degrees of low consciousness in my opinion. Art, like hentai, can have aspects such as beauty which elevates it above being just porn (but only from an artistic perspective). Its also a matter of what do people want. If they want their porn raw and dirty then that is what they'll get.

This isn't how wise and spiritual people argue. Your a glorified keyboard warrior, ala Reddit, which is why I hardly take anyone seriously here. Just look how defensive you get. Of course, if you have success then loftier spiritual goals are appropriate but that is not the case for the majority. The problem is that your survival needs infect how you approach life so it is better to just be honest and take things step by step instead. That is not devilry. Devilry is abusing spirituality which is what am trying to avoid. There is too much virtue signaling going on in my opinion.

Any stories of bad wingmen?

Can you prove that suffering is a choice? I'm genuinely interested in what you think. I think most of you would benefit way more from just earning more money, getting therapy, getting laid more, living a more successful life in the conventional ways, etc. 99% of the time, the conventional works in my opinion so I'm going to promote that over lofty spiritual ideals. Spiritual fantasy gives the ego license to dabble in self-improvement without truly committing to action, so you just stay stuck spinning your wheels while fancying yourselves geniuses. What I reject is the romanticization by phonies. Most of you are naked emperors as far as I'm concerned and you are not getting an inch of credibility.