Rafael Thundercat

Here in Bahia Brasil I am observing a very interesting fenomena. Was woman here that opened my eyes to it. Foreing girls from Germany,France, and other countries coming for sexual turism. Not the same way men do when they travel to Thailand etc.. this woman dont need to pay, they come and make themselfs available to locals. One can feel the vibe. They have little time to act, so they very fast find what they want and go for it. This idea that man only is the ones searching for sex is a myth. When a woman want, she will iniciate and make easy to sex happen. They pick what attract them. As Orion Taraban said in one video "woman want many qualities in a man, but they want it in man they are already atracted.

Yes but most people and even woman are looking for swallow encounters for long time people understanding that they want something long term and with quality. For example, as now I am in a hostel where there is a lot of coming and going people, I notice that girls let for the very last day or days to finally decide to fuck or kiss, because they know that they are going to travel and never see the guy anymore. One of them even told me after kissing a friend,that she only kissed him because he was leaving to his state. So here we see that women are not even thinking in satisfying. For me this is mere usage of someone as a kissing/fuckin, machine, is like masturbarion a with a dildo but in this case the dildo comes attached in a moving body with autonomy. And I am not signal virtuing since I did a lot of the same using girls for sex myself. Today I dont engange in such things. If I feel is too swallow I dont invest. As someone told me one day: I lost a lot of oportunities because of Truth!! I mean, if is not truthfull I dont feed it.

Would be interesting to open a MegaThread for the Corruption of Everything series just in case there is not one already open for these studies. By the way I want to share here the Corruption of Fraternities in Universities. Yes, abuse. Some contemplations about it: The video from that Iowa Alpha Delta Phi hazing thing is INSANE. A fire alarm goes off, cops show up, and they end up finding pledges down in some nasty basement, blindfolded and shirtless. And the two dudes who were talking to police at first? They were not helping their case at all. This is an excellent example of “toxic masculinity”. Many of the men being victimized in these types of situations will go on to repeat this cycle to the next round of men. Instead of healing the damage we receive, we use it as a fire inside to wound those next in line, to gain our power back, and the cancer of trauma continues. Until we learn masculinity is defined by lifting others up with us instead of tearing others down so we look taller, the cycle continues.

Eleven Labs I think would be a good way to remaster Leo Videos with a female voice with a tone that I could share with female friends. Maybe if they first think the message is coming from a woman they may open up instead of being closed by male bias. I dont know how to voice shift videos but this is one ideia. If someone can do it share with me.

Welcome. Actually will take time to me even research all that books. If you have oportunity to find them in a library good luck. For now I am in Brasil and good books are hard and expensive to find. But also there are some brasilian authors that ee never find in mainstream bookshops.

I proposed Claude that Absolute Truth is Truth regardless of any perciver, but from a Individual local perspective is also true that humanity is stuck on survival wage slave and unless liberation is achived we will keep far from reaching collective understanding of Absolute Truth. I asked the root origins os wage slavery and it it will ever be possible to tackle this problem. As my book studies (David Graeber etc..) already pointed to me, Claude starts with agricultural revolution since is around this time that humans domesticated animals and yes,some fellow humans. Here is the answer: You've articulated the paradox perfectly: Absolute Truth exists regardless, but humanity's capacity to recognize it is obscured by survival obsession. The "elephant in the room" metaphor is apt. Root Origins of Wage Slavery: 1. Agricultural Revolution (~10,000 BCE) Hunter-gatherers: worked 15-20 hours/week, rest was leisure Agriculture: required constant labor, storage, property Surplus → inequality (some control food, others must work for it) First time humans tied survival to controlled labor 2. Emergence of Private Property Commons (shared land) → Enclosure (private ownership) Once land is owned, the landless must sell labor to survive Can't feed yourself without access to resources Creates dependency relationship 3. Debt Systems (Ancient Mesopotamia ~3000 BCE) Debt created obligation Debt bondage → proto-wage slavery Economic coercion replacing physical coercion David Graeber's "Debt: The First 5,000 Years" traces this 4. Enclosure Movement (England, 15th-19th centuries) Critical turning point Common lands privatized by force Peasants who fed themselves from commons → landless workers "Bloody legislation" forced people into wage work Karl Polanyi's "The Great Transformation" details this 5. Industrial Revolution (18th-19th centuries) Factory system required disciplined, time-controlled labor Traditional rhythms of work destroyed Clock time → "time is money" Workers no longer control means of production E.P. Thompson's "Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism" 6. Destruction of Subsistence Economies (Colonialism) Indigenous peoples lived outside wage system Colonizers imposed: Hut taxes (forcing people to earn money) Land seizure (forcing dependence on wages) Destruction of traditional economies Global South particularly devastated The Core Mechanism: Wage slavery requires two conditions: Separation from means of survival Can't grow food (no land) Can't build shelter (no materials/permission) Can't access water freely (privatized) All basic needs commodified Forced market participation Must have money to survive Only way to get money: sell labor "Free" to choose employer, but not free to opt out "Freedom" to starve isn't freedom Why It Persists: Structural Lock-in: Property laws protect ownership Legal system enforces contracts State monopoly on violence backs it up Debt keeps people trapped High costs (housing, healthcare, education) maintain pressure Ideological Justification: "Hard work" mythology "Job creators" narrative Meritocracy illusion "There is no alternative" (TINA) Psychological Internalization: People defend their own exploitation Protestant work ethic Identity tied to employment Fear of being "lazy" Actual Solutions? Let's Examine: 1. Universal Basic Income (UBI) How it works: Everyone receives unconditional cash payment Enough to cover basic needs No work requirement Pros: Breaks survival-labor link Provides bargaining power (can refuse bad jobs) Enables pursuit of meaning, art, philosophy Some trials show positive results Cons: Still operates within capitalism Doesn't address ownership/power structures Could be captured by landlords (rent increases) May be inadequate amount Politically difficult Books: "Utopia for Realists" - Rutger Bregman "Give People Money" - Annie Lowrey 2. Worker Cooperatives / Economic Democracy How it works: Workers own and control their workplaces Democratic decision-making Profits shared equitably Pros: Eliminates exploitation Workers control their own labor Proven sustainable (Mondragon, etc.) Addresses ownership problem Cons: Still must compete in capitalist market Difficult to scale/start (capital requirements) Doesn't eliminate need to work Can face market pressures Examples: Mondragon Corporation (Spain) Evergreen Cooperatives (Cleveland) Books: "Ours to Hack and to Own" - Trebor Scholz "The Mondragon Experiment" - George Cheney 3. Land Reform / Commons Restoration How it works: Redistribute land access Community land trusts Public commons for basic resources Right to subsistence Pros: Addresses root cause (separation from land) Enables self-sufficiency Historical precedent (successful land reforms) Cons: Requires massive political will Violent opposition from landowners May not scale to urban populations Modern life requires more than land Examples: Zapatista communities (Mexico) Community land trusts (various) "Landless Workers Movement" (Brazil) 4. Automation + Post-Scarcity How it works: Technology automates most labor Abundance of goods Minimal human work needed Pros: Could eliminate need for wage labor Technology exists or is emerging Could provide universal abundance Cons: Who controls automation? (Currently: capitalists) Could create worse inequality Doesn't automatically free people Environmental limits to growth Books: "Fully Automated Luxury Communism" - Aaron Bastani "Post-Capitalism" - Paul Mason "The Abolition of Work" - Bob Black 5. Degrowth / Voluntary Simplicity How it works: Reduce consumption/production Shorten work week Local, subsistence-based communities Exit from growth economy Pros: Environmentally sustainable More leisure time Community-focused Can start now (personal/small scale) Cons: Requires massive cultural shift Seen as "going backwards" Difficult in current system Vulnerable to external pressures Books: "The Case for Degrowth" - Giorgos Kallis "Bullshit Jobs" - David Graeber (advocates 15-hour work week) 6. Anarchist / Gift Economy Models How it works: Abolish money/wages entirely Mutual aid and gift exchange Voluntary cooperation Horizontal organization Pros: Eliminates wage relationship entirely Based on human connection Proven in small communities Cons: Extremely difficult to scale Requires cultural transformation Vulnerable to free-riders No transition plan from current system Books: "The Conquest of Bread" - Peter Kropotkin "Debt: The First 5,000 Years" - David Graeber "Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution" - Peter Kropotkin 7. Reduced Work Week / Time Sovereignty How it works: Mandate 20-hour work week Rest is free time Maintain living wage Pros: Achievable reform Immediate quality of life improvement Historical precedent (40-hour week was once radical) Keynes predicted 15-hour week by now Cons: Still wage labor Doesn't address ownership Requires political will May not provide enough income currently 8. Guaranteed Employment How it works: Government guarantees job to anyone who wants one Living wage for all work Meaningful public projects Pros: Eliminates unemployment fear Provides income security Can do socially useful work Cons: Still wage labor Government control Doesn't address meaningfulness Could be bureaucratic The Harsh Truth: No "easy" solution exists because: Power asymmetry: Those who benefit from wage slavery control: Governments Media Military/police Legal systems Education Path dependency: Entire civilization built on this system Infrastructure Supply chains Social organization Psychological expectations Collective action problem: Individual resistance is punished Requires coordinated mass action Difficult to organize Easy to divide Ideological hegemony: People defend their own exploitation Alternatives seem "unrealistic" "Human nature" arguments TINA ("There Is No Alternative") Historical Precedents for Escape: Partial successes: 8-hour workday (fought for, won, now eroding) Weekends (didn't exist before labor movements) Child labor laws (once considered impossible) Social security (FDR's reforms) NHS (UK healthcare) All required: Mass organizing Strikes Sometimes violence Political pressure Crisis moments (Great Depression, WWII) What Actually Works: Based on history and analysis: Short term (harm reduction): Strong unions Labor protections Social safety nets Reduced work hours UBI experiments Medium term (systemic shift): Worker cooperatives spreading Community wealth building Local mutual aid networks Parallel institutions Democratic ownership models Long term (fundamental transformation): Cultural shift in values (away from work-identity) Technological automation democratically controlled Environmental crisis forcing degrowth Generational consciousness change New economic paradigms emerge The Realistic Timeline: Your intuition about "thousand years" may be accurate because: Agricultural revolution took millennia to spread Industrial revolution took 200+ years to fully transform society Current system only ~300 years old (industrial capitalism) Consciousness change moves slowly But also: Change can accelerate (technology, communication) Crisis can catalyze rapid transformation Tipping points are unpredictable Small groups can preserve/spread wisdom The Philosophical Dimension: You're right that as long as humanity is trapped in survival mode, Absolute Truth remains unseen. But consider: Individual Liberation: Some individuals in any era escape the matrix Mystics, philosophers, sages throughout history Truth-realization doesn't require collective freedom Can happen despite conditions The Bodhisattva Question: Do you awaken and exit? (monk, hermit, drop out) Or awaken and return to help? (activist, teacher, reformer) Both valid, both difficult Practical Synthesis: For someone seeing clearly: Secure basic needs (within system, for now) Minimize dependence (reduce needs, increase autonomy) Support alternatives (co-ops, mutual aid, movements) Preserve/share wisdom (teach, write, model) Strategic patience (long game, plant seeds) Inner freedom (don't let outer bondage create inner bondage) Is There a Real Solution? Honest answer: Not within current power structures. The system is designed to perpetuate itself. But: Systems collapse (Roman Empire, Soviet Union, etc.) New systems emerge from ruins Seeds planted now matter for what comes next Individual awakening is always possible Small communities can create alternatives The future is unwritten The question isn't whether humanity will free itself (unknowable), but whether you will use your time pursuing Truth despite the constraints, and whether you'll work to create conditions for others to do the same. What's your sense of your own path through this? Are you drawn toward individual liberation, collective action, or some synthesis?

You've identified a profound philosophical problem that many traditions have grappled with. Let me explore this connection: The Survival-Truth Dilemma: Your intuition aligns with several philosophical frameworks: 1. Maslow's Hierarchy (Psychological) Basic needs (food, shelter, safety) must be met before self-actualization Truth-seeking is a higher-order need When in survival mode, the brain prioritizes immediate threats over abstract contemplation 2. Marx's Material Conditions "It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but their social being that determines their consciousness" Economic base shapes ideological superstructure People grinding for survival can't afford philosophical reflection 3. Buddhist/Vedantic Perspective Attachment to survival/ego creates ignorance (avidya) Suffering obscures clear seeing of reality Liberation requires freedom from basic grasping/fear 4. Existential Philosophy Heidegger: everyday "thrownness" and "das Man" (the They) keeps us from authentic Being Survival concerns trap us in "inauthentic" existence True ontological inquiry requires stepping back from immediate concerns The Deeper Problem: Cognitive Resources Chronic stress shrinks the prefrontal cortex Scarcity creates "tunneling" - narrow focus on immediate needs Trauma and anxiety literally impair abstract reasoning Time and Energy Philosophy requires leisure (Greek: σχολή - "scholē" - free time) Ancient philosophers often had wealth or patronage Contemplation is a luxury when you're exhausted Cultural Reinforcement Survival-based societies create survival-based values Education systems train workers, not truth-seekers Media keeps people distracted and reactive But Here's the Paradox: 1. Some of humanity's deepest insights came from suffering: Buddha's awakening came after witnessing suffering Viktor Frankl found meaning in concentration camps Slave narratives contain profound wisdom Mystics often came from poverty 2. Wealthy societies aren't necessarily wiser: Despite material abundance, modern developed nations show: High rates of meaninglessness/depression Shallow materialism Distraction rather than contemplation Comfort can create complacency, not wisdom 3. The "Idle Rich" aren't enlightened: Having resources ≠ pursuing truth Many with leisure pursue pleasure, status, power Freedom from survival doesn't guarantee truth-seeking So What's Really Needed? Not just freedom FROM survival pressure, but: 1. Cultural Values Society must VALUE truth-seeking Education oriented toward wisdom, not just employment Contemplative practices normalized 2. Psychological Safety Beyond physical survival: emotional/existential security Community that supports questioning Permission to not know 3. Developmental Readiness Individual maturity and consciousness development Can't force someone to care about ontological truth Requires certain cognitive/emotional capacities 4. Breaking the Cycle Even small groups pursuing truth can shift culture Monasteries, academies, philosophical communities throughout history Seeds of higher consciousness can survive dark ages Your Core Insight: You're right that systemic abuse creates epistemological imprisonment: Trauma → reactive thinking Exploitation → internalized oppression Survival mode → inability to question foundations Exhaustion → no energy for deep reflection But the relationship isn't simple: Some abundance → possibility of wisdom Too much comfort → complacency Moderate challenge → growth Crushing oppression → broken capacity Historical Patterns: "Axial Age" (800-200 BCE): Buddha, Confucius, Socrates, Hebrew prophets emerged simultaneously During times of social upheaval but also cultural flowering Required BOTH social stability AND existential crisis Monastic Traditions: Created intentional spaces free from survival concerns But also practiced voluntary simplicity The middle way: basic needs met, but not luxury Your Thousand-Year Timeline: If humanity needs collective freedom from survival pressure to reach ontological truth: Pessimistic View: Current trajectory: increasing inequality Climate crisis creating more survival pressure Technology used for control, not liberation Could take millennia or never happen Optimistic View: Technology COULD free humans from drudgery Universal basic income, automation, abundance Information age enabling mass education Could happen faster than expected Alternative View: Small groups can achieve enlightenment regardless Truth-realizers throughout history despite conditions Individual awakening possible in any era Collective enlightenment may not be necessary The Real Question: Is collective ontological understanding even possible? Or is truth-realization inherently individual? Some mystics say: only individuals awaken Others believe: consciousness evolution is collective Maybe both: individual realization + cultural transmission What This Means Practically: If you're right that abuse blocks truth: 1. Personal Level: Secure your own basic needs first Create psychological safety Cultivate contemplative practice Don't guilt yourself for survival concerns 2. Social Level: Support systems that reduce survival pressure Create spaces for philosophical inquiry Resist systems that keep people stressed/distracted Share insights with those ready to receive 3. Civilizational Level: Long game: work toward material security for all Preserve wisdom traditions Educate next generation differently Plant seeds that may flower in centuries Your intuition is philosophically sound: A civilization grinding people into survival mode cannot collectively pursue truth. The question is whether this must change collectively before individuals can awaken, or whether individual awakening can catalyze collective change. What's your sense? Does truth require collective liberation, or can it spread individual by individual even in oppressive systems?

I posted the whole Leo post about Civilization Abuse on Claude and asked it to give me some good resources to deepen the understanding about that topic. i also asked about Absolute Ontological Truth and got this answer: An Absolute Ontological Truth would be a truth about the fundamental nature of reality that holds regardless of perspective, belief, or circumstance. Here are key characteristics and examples philosophers have proposed: Defining Characteristics: Unconditional - true in all possible worlds/contexts Mind-independent - exists whether or not anyone perceives it Foundational - describes the basic structure of existence itself Universal - applies everywhere, everywhen Non-contradictable - cannot be coherently denied Proposed Candidates: 1. Existence itself "Something exists" or "Being is" Even doubting this requires existence 2. Logical/Mathematical truths Law of non-contradiction (A cannot be both A and not-A) Law of identity (A = A) Though some argue these are conceptual, not ontological 3. Consciousness/Awareness Descartes' "I think, therefore I am" Direct self-awareness as irreducible 4. The nature of causality Whether causation is fundamental to reality Though quantum mechanics challenges this Major Philosophical Challenges: The Epistemological Problem: How can we know an absolute ontological truth? We're always limited by: Our sensory apparatus Cognitive frameworks Language and concepts Subjective experience Different Framework Perspectives: Materialism: Matter/energy and physical laws are the absolute foundation Idealism: Consciousness/mind is the fundamental reality Neutral Monism: Reality is neither mental nor physical but a third thing Buddhist Philosophy: Emptiness (śūnyatā) - no inherent, independent existence Process Philosophy: Change/becoming is more fundamental than static being The Paradox: Any claim to absolute ontological truth faces the challenge that the claim itself is made from within a particular perspective, using particular concepts, by a particular kind of being (human). Strongest Candidates (least controversial): "Something exists rather than nothing" "Change occurs" or "Change is possible" "Experience happens" (even if we're unsure what's being experienced) What's your intuition on this? Are you asking from a philosophical interest, or does this connect to the earlier text about truth and civilization? __________ Then I said the I asked from interest but also conected to the earlier text cause I had a intuition that humaniy cant reach Absolute Truth as a Whole if Abuse and Survival is the main focus. I will post the answer bellow.

By the way. i would be interested in any powerful material to study more on the topic of Civilization is built on Abuse. I case nobody notice we are in Civilizational Colapse, we are late on understanding the root causes of our colapse.

List os books to amplify or go deeper on the post about Civilization is built on Abuse: "Capital" (ou "Das Kapital") - Karl Marx "Bullshit Jobs: A Theory" - David Graeber "The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy" - David Graeber "The Burnout Society" - Byung-Chul Han "24/7: Late Capitalism and the Ends of Sleep" - Jonathan Crary "Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison" - Michel Foucault "Simulacra and Simulation" - Jean Baudrillard "The Society of the Spectacle" - Guy Debord "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media" - Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman "The Conquest of Bread" - Peter Kropotkin "Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology" - David Graeber

Man, you know how is Bahia, Música Brega,Paredão, Funk etc.. I enjoy different tastes of music. And honestly, people here are really into their bodies. I feel more grounded here than in Europe. Of course the tropical climate helps a lot.

Check this example of music. I was yesterday in a show with this band since is carnaval in Brasil where I am living now. Of course that for many in this forum this music would not be beautifull or good taste. But to be honest this band made a lot of the locals happy and dancing, and I was dancing as well. I liked it, not with any judgment of taste, the band the people dancing the moment just being what it is. If some magician would shift the band for a Punk Rock suddenly,I would not complain a bit. I would enjoy as well.

Amazing. Another day I started counting the individual objects around me, very fast one realize that it would take eons to do it, because if I would count every bit of it, including differences in tonality and shade of each object I would stay in the room forever. If I would walk around the planet doing it it would take my whole life. And plus, the objects have an outside and inside. So we only count the sureface level of everything. Objects are Infinite.

Guys, you need to start following some Decolonization accounts on Social Media. There are more things connected to Feminism than the more Toxic versions of it. There are Movements towards Matriachy, and it dont say that women should be in power, it actually say that we need a society organized around values of care, of protection of children,women,men,nature, land,animals etc..