Rafael Thundercat

Where did I said that returning to small, isolated primitive pre industrial era mindset? Dont strawman the issue. For sure the people engaged in study of Patriarchal Structure and Matriarchal Structure dont hold hopes to a retun of people living in Teepes,Hunting etc...

I will ignore the two last non-sense rants above since I dont have maturity to debate with kids. So I will drop this here for who interested in knowing that there are Matriarchal Societies and this Societies are not about Woman domination of men, they are simply another way of governance for humans. Lets let the chimps and gorillas in their own way of living and remember that we are another line of evolution. I think is already proved that we are somehow like apes but in another level of evolution. Humans gained capacity to organize in ways that apes cant. Here is the example for study. There are stories that change the way we understand the world. Not because they are new, but because they show us that what we today consider "normal" is not the only way to organize society. In the Haudenosaunee Confederacy (North America), the clan mothers embody another way of organizing society. A society where imposition or domination over others is not necessary for "things to work." Nor is the accumulation of resources and capital a priority... it is a society where responsibility, balance and care for life are prioritized. Here the Clan Mothers nominated leaders, could remove them from power, and sustained political legitimacy. Belonging, land and community life were organized through the maternal line. 🩸 And this was not just a political structure. It was also expressed in daily life: houses belonged to women, men joined the maternal clan and, if a relationship ended, it was he who had to return to his maternal home. Life was not fragmented between the political, the economic or the spiritual: everything formed part of the same fabric. This type of organization was documented in the 19th century by Lewis Henry Morgan and Ely S. Parker, though it was also questioned and distorted at the time, partly because it deeply challenged dominant ideas about power and the place of women in society. The work of Barbara Alice Mann allows us to return to these stories from a different place, showing that maternal authority in Haudenosaunee society was not an exception, but part of a balanced system centered on life. Now let me search for relevant books, references and videos. Books Barbara Alice Mann (the author referenced in the post): Iroquoian Women: The Gantowisas (2000) — Peter Lang Publishing. The definitive work on Haudenosaunee matriarchy, now considered a classic. Daughters of Mother Earth: The Wisdom of Native American Women (ed.) — explores women's roles pre-colonization. Make a Beautiful Way: The Wisdom of Native American Women — four essays from Indigenous women on matriarchy and colonialism. Encyclopedia of the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois Confederacy) (2000), co-authored with Bruce E. Johansen — Greenwood Publishing. Lewis Henry Morgan (also cited in the post): League of the Iroquois (1851) — the first systematic 19th-century documentation of Haudenosaunee society. Sally Roesch Wagner: Sisters in Spirit: Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Influence on Early American Feminists (2001) — traces how Iroquois matriarchy directly influenced the suffragist movement. Videos Haudenosaunee | Women and Governance (YouTube): What Is The Role Of Clan Mothers In The Haudenosaunee Confederacy? (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ncZQxJOf0 Clan Mother: Healing the Community — The Ways (YouTube): Without a Whisper — short documentary on Clan Mothers and the suffrage movement (PBS): https://www.pbs.org/video/without-a-whisper-wnpj8u/ Inside the Vision for Clan Mothers Healing Village (PBS Native America): https://www.pbs.org/video/clan-mother-icf9k6/ 🌐 Official Sources Haudenosaunee Confederacy official site: https://www.haudenosauneeconfederacy.com/clan-system/ Onondaga Nation on Clan Mothers: https://www.onondaganation.org/government/clan-mothers/ Now kids, bring some substance to sustain all your blable.

Patriarchy doesn't exist because men are "naturally" superior to women; it exists because they aren't. You do not build a system of dominance that oppresses women because you're "better than them"; you build it because you know you aren't. You don't break women because you're whole; you break them because they're whole. The patriarchy is a symptom of men's fears, not power; it is a desperate process of possessing power.

The concept of calling women "man haters" when they criticise and point out toxicity in mens behavior but not calling men "women haters" when they are literally k!lling, r*ping and abus!ng women on a daily basis.

Stop spy on me. I was just buying Butter while I saw this: Actualized Quotes #600 https://share.google/cedPXJHs3NlLoLFeu

As long as men dominate women, we cannot have love between us. that love and domination can coexist is one of the most powerful lies patriarchy tells us all, and those of us committed to ending patriarchy can touch the hearts of real men...by asking that they...become disloyal to patriarchal masculinity in order to find a place for the masculine that does not make it synonymous with domination or the will to do violence.

Is hard to understand that is not all man, not all whites and not all European? No it dont take. i know a bunch of great white males from Europe that are doing a different work than the ones that are still sustaining White-Supremacist Capitalistic Patriarchy.

Some Wild Woman are doing way better than many men. Takes humbleness to not be jealous but happy that they ( some of them) are living great lifes. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYUwk9ktSdm/?igsh=NWkzc2M2cGhvbWQ3 Wild Woman dont mean dirty hippies living in lack of resources. Imagine woman thriving. This ones are literally decentering men.

We just need to find out who are in the positions of power today. I mean Power like the sort of Power that can take decisions that affects millions of people, directly of indirectly killing people, exploitng resources, accumulating wealth etc.. is not the case that is mostly White Men with European Lineage? The thing is ot even just about Race, if we get in the race aspect yes, most are white, in the case of Origin is mostly European and in case if gender are mostly Men. Tell me if the decisory tables are composed by a equal numeber of Males and Females around the decisory tables in the World? I think is more a case of rebalancing forces than backlash. i am a man and even me know that having a male dominated world is not a good ideia. Not saying that males dont have females in their side no matter if the males are pro-equality of powers or not, we see MAGA males and MAGA females The tern Divine Feminine is being dismantled by some woman today. Divine Feminine turns to reiforce the Teology of Dominion since there is Divinity involved. What Patriarchy fears are the Wild Feminine. For sure Witch hunters had Religious Pious Women in their side when they hunter women who couldn't comply with their Bullshit.

For some of the most Dicerning voices they say is luckly the movement is more pacific than violent. Violent would be woman learning to poison toxic man or cutting some cocks by surprise. About the cock I think I already heard some cases. Yes woman can be revengfull, but as I said you can find voices that are not the common ragefull feminist. The intelligent ones know that Anger can be a force for creativity or depletion depending on how is applied, so is more about reparation and balance. I will bring here a woman that talks about Chinese Medicine perspective of Society. We basicaly need Yang and Yin, but the case is that we have a lot of Artificial Yang and it took the balance from both Men and Woman since both carry both energies. Here is it. And of course is only one perspective. She say in the videos is not political or social and I agree there is political and social reasons for what is going on but her perspective is worth seeing https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYXVlqBCFL6/?igsh=c21heDNkZmZ2MThq @Natasha Tori Maru I will adress member when answering things that I feel are individual and relevant. I will ignore answers that are similar to @Willy Phallicus. The time to give attention and free education to who dont want to learn is over. There are a lot of Content Online to go deep in topics. Guys just need to learn where to search. I am giving my links to at least show my position instead of just strawmaning. Overwall English is not my first language so is extra hard for me to debate Bullshit here. If you are not tired of it in this Forum I am. I Just remain here in hope some will get the memo.

@Xonas Pitfall thanks

To add to all the worldwide havoc.

So do it.

Dont people here share many things they find everywhere online? Even Leo gura in his Blog? Isn't this a online forum? Look for Bell Hooks work and confirm if the infomation given by AI dont match her work. I dont need to reinvent the wheel. A lot of work was done by many people. We are here to learn or what? And dont tell how to post. You do you as was told to me many times here.

Thank you for bringing this distinction. Without this it is hard to understand many things. Here for more research for the truly interested ones: White capitalist patriarchy is a concept made famous by visionary Black feminist scholar and cultural critic bell hooks. It is a framework that asserts race, gender, and class do not exist in isolation, but instead intertwine to form an overarching system of oppression.The interconnected elements of the term include: White Supremacy: A socio-political system asserting that whiteness holds inherent structural power, normalcy, and dominance. Capitalism: An economic framework that prioritizes infinite wealth accumulation and profit, often relying on the exploitation of marginalized labor. Patriarchy: A social structure where men hold primary power, dictating norms around gender roles, caregiving, and authority.By linking these three systems, theorists explain how interlocking oppressions reinforce each other to maintain the status quo. For example, the economic pursuit of profit (capitalism) often relies on the underpaid or uncompensated domestic labor of marginalized women (patriarchy and white supremacy). For an in-depth breakdown of bell hooks’ original framework and how she analyzed these intersecting systems of power: