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It's my third day of fasting and I'm considering smoking some 5meoDmt tonight, do you think it is a good idea or better wait to break fasting? Do any of you know what 5meo does to the body energetically speaking, like does it provide energy to the body or it deplate it? I had times when I felt truly energized after 5meo and other times where I felt completely drained, curious to hear about your experience with it

The malevolent presence has nothing to do with Iboga, it was already there before. In fact, a friend of me that is really sensitive to energies around her felt something wrong in my room months ago. I discarded what she said but with Iboga I understood, now I need to make sense of it, that's not the first time I encounter spirit like this and these bad energies often makes bad stuff happen in your life, really not pleasant but damn, now I can't wait to try out what a real dose of Iboga is like see the real thing but gotta wait for a while now

Did you succeed with the preparation? I cut the skin of the cactus then either you can blend it or let it this way, then you put it in a regular saucepan with lots of water. You then proceed to turn on fire at the minimum, you want it to heat slowly so that water evaporates over time. Wait 3 hours or more that the liquid slightly reduce, filter what's left in the saucepan, set aside the liquid you recolted then put back the cactus skin on the saucepan and add more water. Same process with low heat until it reduce then you combine the two liquid you recolted and you're good to go. Keep in mind the more you reduce it the better, less nausea and you need to drink less for same effects. You can keep it for a long time in the freezer if you don't finish everything. Enjoy, Huachuma is a blessing

The maximum I've done was a little more than 1g when I first tried it as I was advised to start slow and honestly, it was too much for a micro dose I've been in touch with a Bwiti from a lineage in Gabon and he advised me not to go flood dose by my own. At first I was a bit skeptic but when the 1g hit I totally understood. It literally opens you up to the spirit world, this made me feel all the energy around me and especially the really bad feeling present when entering my room, like a malevolent presence (I had an encounter with it today during my concentration practice while sober, shit's real ) so it's impossible for me to go flood dose by my own on my room right now because of it, I'll stay on the microdose range and wait for a proper setting in Africa. Beside that even the microdose is really cool, grounded in reality, can't wait to try a proper flood dose ahah

@Francis777 Care to explain how it went for you?

Yeah so I gave it a try yesterday, just been smoking a little 5meo, really not much as I didn't want to take any risk and it was great. I felt it gave me energy and allowed to "balance" myself pleasantly. It pairs really well with Iboga microdose, I will keep these two components to learn from now on

@Francis777 I'm working with Iboga root bark, not Ibogaïne directly as I don't need to cure any addiction and yes, I've done my research, really serious business when it comes to Iboga but it's such a wonder for insights, even at microdose. Planning to come to Africa next year for a flood dose, the bwiti have used this technology for thousands of years

will procede carefully

@Leo Gura Okay thanks, by any chance do you know of any bad interaction between Iboga and 5meoDmt...? I'm currently microdosing Iboga (not planning for flood dose by myself, only microdosing) so it's still in my system even if it's light so I'd like to be sure it's safe

I got the cosmic joke and I laughed like a mad man, I was crying from laughing too hard at the absurdity of it all, at the trick we play

@Clarence Work your way up and you will see the duration increase till the 45min - 1hour mark for sure. Keep in mind this is a work in progress, a process of awakening which takes time so don't over rush it, you're not in a hurry Don't forget to integrate your experience before jumping into another one, Take care'

@Schizophonia You can just vape it which works really great with nnDMT, never had any trouble with it as long as you have the right device. If you are concerned about too short duration, you can take harmalas 30min prior to smoking or as Leo suggested make your own Ayahuasca or Pharmahuasca depending on your preparation but if you want my 2cents, vaping is largely enough to experiment with nnDMT, you can reach really high states of consiousness with it depending on your dose.

It finally happened with persistence, a 5meo-DMT breakthrough. But I don't know what to think about it, I'm confused. Well first let me explain in what circumstances it happened then I'll talk a bit more about the actual experience. I've decided to take MDMA that night, I'm working with this medicine to release past traumas, stuck emotions and in order for me to understand what is Love among other things. I took half a pill then started feeling good and social, put on some music then ended up writing on the internet, I could finally express myself authentically, being open about how I feel with some subjects I care, it was great, the music was great, I was dancing sometimes etc.. After some time, I decided to redose and roll a joint. I'm not a daily smoker, in fact it's been more than a month since I had my last joint but it goes so well with MDMA, cannabis is what brings insights for me, what activates the voice of God, mdma is what opens the door but I'm disgressing.. I waited for the second dose to gently kick before lighting the joint and made sure I took every necessary supplement in order to roll safe (which is very important not only to reduce neurotoxicity but also for the quality of the roll, I can link to a great Reddit post if you're interested in risk reduction). Then I started writing to myself as I usually do during this combination, lots of usefull advice as always. I had the idea of trying a litle bit of 5meo with the pipe, I've heard that some facilitator use Mdma in order to ease enter into the experience, so I got out the pipe. At this point I just wanted to try a little, no more so I weighted some and tried it out. It felt great, I don't remember much about it but I know I was fine and I wanted to try more, at this point I knew I would breakthrough that night, it was time. The music changed by itself to an album I didn't know, it felt like the Spirit was preparing a special atmosphere for this moment, I knew it was coming, I had decided so at this moment.. I remember trying to weight some more freebase but I didn't care about numbers now, I have no real recollection about how much I weighted, maybe 17mg something like that.. I had no fear, I knew I was in a safe space, everything is gonna be OK. I got on the couch with the pipe and went for it. As soon as I exhale, I had barely time to drop the pipe and I was gone. But gone, in a familiar place..? I know this place, I've been there multiple times before! There was visuals, a Lot! There was no body, "I" existed no more. It felt like being in some backroom, like reality is the scene, the place where people are playing drama but here I was behind the scene. I could see weird things, I recognised a Pharoah, Egyptian stuff in a multicolored very bright light, some kind of skull head etc.. The whole thing reminded me of a nnDMT breakthrough (not sure why people here seems to underestimate nnDMT), I was surpirsed by the visuals, I thought 5meo was supposed to be no visuals.. Then I started to feel my body again or at least I knew it was there, I felt like I could direct my Life in whatever direction I want because I'm imagining everything, everything is imagined in the world. Honestly I was a bit disappointed by the whole experience, when I came back I felt like "meh", like I already seen this before this is nothing new ><' But I'm still processing the whole experience and it helps to write about it, it happened 4 days ago. I feel like I will need other breakthroughs to really grasp the full picture of it. Oh, and yesterday Leo's video about "what is reality" appeared into my life, it made so much sense, Thank you for reading me

@Leo Gura Yeah 300 breakthroughs seems alright But ultimately my goal is to reach these kinds of states by myself while being fully awake and sober using the path laid out by Castaneda, I want a more practical use of these knowledge we're talking about here, I know this is only the beginning of what is actually possible to achieve, much more fun awaits with the right practices @shree It's been around one year, maybe a little more that I'm working with 5meo, from 0.5g hcl I've got 0.19g left and from 0.5gfreebase I have 90mg (but this one is not really accurate because I had to rex and probably lost a lot in the process ). I can't exactly tell you a definite number of time but what I can tell is it took me around one month since I really got back into it seriously with the Intent of Breaking through. I used it one time per week with what seemed to be a high dose for me increasing each week from 5mg (with Hcl) until I got bored with rectal or nasal administration and loaded up a shit ton in a pipe while high on Mdma My advice would be: take the time you need, this is not a race. Let some time pass between session for you to integrate properly your experience and you'll get there when the time is right. @halfknots I already had some visuals from the mdma alone so this is no surprise I had even more with 5 I'm thinking about making a cart yeah, seems to be the best method but I'm affraid to cough tbh, I had a vape back in the days when I tried to stop smoking cigarrettes but I used to cough like crazy with these so I can't imagine if that's the case with 5meoDMT in it --'

Ahah interesting Nature loves to get high! Only modern Humans have made it a forbidden thing to do because it raises consciousness and you can't control people with a high consciousness

@OBEler All I can say is some old shaman tribes in the past used to take psychedelics for hunting, the medicine would tell them exactly where to go and find food there 100%, what you are trying to achieve is no different. Nobody will tell you how to do this on the internet, this is the kind of mystery you need to discover by yourself with trial and error, if you knew how to do this with 100% accuracy, would you tell everyone your secret on the internet..? So you can try out stuff by yourself if you want but don't get liquidated in the process, proceed carefully. In the end I believe you don't need to take anything to get into the right track, just set your Intent and follow the link

Hi guys, It's been a long time now since I'm working with 5meo dmt but I can't seem to have a proper breakthrough with it, I started slowly around 1 year ago getting freebase and hcl, I went progressively and although I had really great experiences, I can't seem to get to that breakthrough territory, that "Ah-ah" moment or "This is it ! OMG OMG OMG OMG", "INFINITY, that's meeeee!!".. I had the cosmical joke where I laughed like crazy, I had the nothingness where it felt like having no-body or like shutting down a TV then nothing, sometimes I had glimpses of Love even though this one seems to be tough for me like really well hidden, I kinda struggle with self love and I rarely get it from 5 even though it is there, somewhere deep down inside, but no traces of breakthrough and I know what a breakthrough is, I had multiple with nnDMT years ago when I was experimenting with this medicine. I've tried every ROA and rectal looks like the best for me, really gentle and no problems with coughing or having trouble breathing, no driping in the throat etc.. My previous experience was 25mg HCL boofed and it was not that strong even though I thought it was a somehow great dose. I thought I put too much water inside the syringe and I assumed it was because of that. Month(s) passed until today where I really wanted to go for the breakthrough this time, I'm home alone for one week so I decided to go for 30mg (I wanted to do 35 but I stayed on the safe side ). I was ready for deep work, put 0.2 ml of water on the syringe then go for it but it was mild too... Can it come from my batch degrading over time? I've stored it in the zipper for months before storing it in a tiny glass jar but still not perfectly full.. Let's be clear, I still got something from the experience, right now I can still feel it somewhere like maybe I need some grounding after this, but during the experience it was not as strong as 30mg should be. As a comparison, I initiated a friend of mine (really experienced with other psych) and we both went for 23mg snorted and this time it was really strong as it should be. Is it possible to have a different tolerance with rectal administration compared to snorting for instance..? I'm not used to put anything up my ass beside 5meo nor am I used to snort things regularly as a reference but this situation feels weird to me and I'm kinda deceived by the experience I got from today to be honest.

@OBEler I get what you are trying to do but my experience told me that it is complicated to tell if the idea you receive comes from the ego, your intuition or is just a thought that passes by. Doing psychedelics with the intent to get better is a great idea though, you can look at long term chart and get a complete new perspective of the market, for instance with a common dose of LSD I could have a much wider view of the market, it's like you understand market cyclicity, everything makes sens in the moment when you are in heightened awareness, you kind of sense the flow of money coming in and out, you can see money as a flow instead of just red and green candles etc... These insight should be taken into consideration and you can learn a lot by doing it but taking action and trade right away is not always a good thing to do, you can write up your insights with a definite plan of actions for the future if you'd like and have a second look later though, like your higher self advising your lower self, but don't expect to have Stocks picked up for you because you could delude yourself if you are not well aligned with Truth.

@Breakingthewall Did you have a particular work to achieve that result beside taking 5meo around 200times?

@Leo Gura I will continue working with 5 slowly increasing dosage, I think some part of me deep within might be afraid of this experience and that's why I'm having difficulty but yeah, I'll get there eventually, there's no reason I won't uncover the big Truth

@Leo Gura Gotcha, it happened only this time with vaping and I noticed I was "drained" after this experience, I didn't felt energized as usual with other ROA which is kinda weird.. Also I'm wondering.. I've been working on and off with 5meo for the past year but couldn't achieve a breakthrough during this time whereas with nnDMT back in the days, I had easily multiple breakthrough where I had complete Unity experience, I've seen the Light multiple times etc.. Could it be that nnDMT works best with me and I'm heading in the wrong direction with 5meoDMT?

@Leo Gura Kinda off topic but I've been using 5meoDMT once a week past 3 or 4weeks but during the night following my last vaping session, I had bad chest pain It was located around the heart or all accross my chest, can't tell exactly but it wasn't feeling great. The pain ultimately disappeared after a good night sleep but still it was there, should I be worried about this?

@shree Waoh dude, 20 - 25mg 5meo DMT freebase is A LOT for your first trip ><' Hope it was great though, I was asking because it seems Malt has way longer legs than 5meoDMT and it could be a problem for me, I will need to time right my take when I get some

Can we do 5meo-Malt after eating ?

@Raf Quick report, smoking with GVG work, I gave it a try today with the handshake dose then I weighted 10mg and went for 3/4 of that, it was pretty strong actually, the dose did vape correctly and I was kind of surprised by the intensity tbh. The most difficult part is the racing thought in the begining but all in all it was great, you should give it another try, I will give you a method that I used for a long time with nnDMT and the GVG, with this method I was able to breakthrough with much less substance than other, You weight your dose then you take the ceramic pad out (the top piece), you return it so that the inside of this piece face up and you slowly heat that thing. It needs to be hot, not burning hot, you want to melt the synthetic 5meo over there so when it's hot, you just drop your freebase in there, it will start melting in the ceramic piece then you put it back, ceramic face down at its place on the pipe. Before blasting off, you can heat your pipe all around, again not to much. Then you are ready to go as usual, you can make the flame touch the ceramic pad for 1 -1.5s then slowly put it back up while still blowing it. You should be good doing this