kavaris

Through understanding t'what ya mean — I believe theres like this mystery / unknown element behind the knowing. And your own self- The thing that does conceptualizing, doesnt know who, what, ..., upon which should lead to "THAT conceptualizing of..." -something like that, yes? I believe that to be the case. You (we, us) anyone... ... They dont know what anything is, until theyve validated it and linked it to that idea of "This is known" or "This is still unknown to me". Im sure you had another part to it to, i just dont recall what it was right at this moment. Im wingin it, up to this point so i dont spend too much time in wonderlandei. Apologeis if i totally did not even get the whole subject matter incorporated in there, as im avoiding—the long time spentin Vvonderlandei tryina figure it out.

@Mellowmarsh Which part?, that is to ask, was it the "chair is not confirmed to be 'chair" part, or was it the "finding out what meaning is, is like, not knowing meaning" thing? I see one path being about the nature of validity/locating it, and the other is about "whats meaning... or what ..." or im tryina understand... Is that second part suppose to be like "until you know", like is the emphasis about, what its like to mean (represent/define) something ~ up until, or is it about "what it means ~that wiill precisely equate to your answer, cause you gave it the meaning?"

I need approx. 10-25 mins or so, as i eatin sandwich. And my cats like lookin at me, as im goin "deep, deep, deep, deep...", on my phone, waitin for food.

Yes. Its not the case that our intention is to necessarily cancel out anything. It may have not been your intention either, as it wasnt my ultimate intention (i think it was something i started in order to lead us here, possibly, maybe). And even if it was my intention, cancellation wouldnt necessarily imply elimination. How can you cancel the conception of yourself?... How would you know you’ve been cancelled, if there’s no conception of you who could know? - Depending on whats meant by cancellation, you can conceptually cancel out yourself via a line of negation. Thats kinda what i thought we were doing at first... until cancellation took on multiple ideas... Now cancellation means something more like softening or muting, in the looser sense. In the strictest sense, we are saying "what validates or invalidates <X> or..." something. Its a conceptual idea towards a possible revealing. Okay. And let me just add in one element into this, to see if it starts to like... unblur the field-of-view / fog-of-war... "If everything was an intelligent field, or a spectrum of intelligence", what does that now mean for the thing doing the conceiving of, and the subsequent product / action of conception? And what does it leave us w/, per the motif, not to monotonously keep rephrasing the same things, but to just stay in a somewhat familiar territory given my need to introduce this totally new, possibly disruptive element (that could potentially crash the logic, or lead us to a dead end, or anything else that could result, per the wonders of the unrevealed mysteries ahead)

Like, im thinkin of it like "We need something that *conceives, of, things* because, 1) Creation - Something has already done said creation. 2) Conception - That which is conceived is not canceled, because its immediately in conception, like its effectively conception itself. 3) "To cancel" is then said to be, 'something thats not "cancellation of everything" — atleast — in this particular way / However this may be cancellation in just one particular mode of, like... muting, for example. 4) Elimination via cancellation is yet another kind of cancellation, for its not necessarily assumed that anything has been eliminated, unless its this one (bulletpoint (4) now) In conclusion, if we went down this path, we'd have a very complicated view of what it even means to cancel, conceptually, for it could just be that we are softening one side for another... but in the strictest version of, we have to have had some self creator, not to mention, to cancel everything out is to be left w/ something like a person whos been doing the conceptualizing ~ whether it be connected to self creator or not.

Thats interesting. Stop it there for a sec, As i need more than a sec to think bout that mind-winder.

Oh i didnt see this post. hold up.

^Hold on now, forget about God or not God, etc, etc... P.s. im watchin a video to stay entertained, cause weve stumbled on a very tough Parmenidian path here... "If we cancel everything out, whats that leave us w/, and whats doing the canceling, and how is it doing said canceling?"

Well slow down there speedy Gonzolez, hold on... We are at "if you can cancel out everything, what do you have left?"

Like if you can cancel out everything, what do you have left? Its actionable cancelation, and yet, here we are still.

Ya but what does that mean?

Thats the basic definition of those terms. Thats not where the understanding of paradox stops however, cause you are to be faced w/ paradoxes, And yet... Why are we here? So i ask, what conclusion does that lead you to ~ about paradox and the nature / function, the thing that you want to contrast, etc, etc., thats sortve what is meant by the basic English def., and the interpretations necessary to actualize or introspect past like.. "Im so confused about life", or... "i know as much as im ever gonna know...", Like these are common conclusions ppl come to, like there is this steelwall blocking a conceptual realm called reality.

Yea, but what is meant by "good"? Thats a construct you are inventing, and are applying it to be inside of everything. Like, you cant break the standard, if you dont even have ways to define said standard, which is to say then that description preludes actualization, Like you dont have to actually believe it, since you can "say what you believe", and it doesnt necessarily align w/ you, as belief isnt pointing to something tangibly true. Like you dont hold onto thoughts you have, enough for them to be practically true in any way, so why would there be "absolution" in the course of "realizing yourself to be one"? Like, how did you end up here then? See below... Likewise, you cant have "Not a thing" and "All things", not only because "Not a thing" isnt a "thing" you can conceive of (unless negation is being used per its function, through speech~and not practically), but also, you are facing towards "those things that you think exist from both directions, absolutely", but the entire point is that, you cant have both sides. Once you challenge the other side of the equation ~ once you instigate "one" or "the other"... It validates "one" (YOUR construct of one) instead of the other, your construct of other. Like if you last left off @ "One", that then counters "Two". If you have two, it counters one. It's not that the second choice wasnt an option, like... you just assume that its "simplified as one", but thats not the practical mechanism that is giving rise to that, for theres something that validates "oneness" prior to believing, saying, or actualizing. Likewise, it feels like everything you say is in the realm of validation, precisely because you have the ability to counter your own experiences. So what is that? Like, you are validating oneness, prior to validating your own experience as yourself, which doesnt make sense.

Im diagnosed w/ schizophrenia. Ive been going to mental health appts for roughly 17, 18 or 19 years... As ive had a very long mental health journey / exploration. I dont have ADD / ADHD Also, constant anxiety is related to "anxiety disorders", not ADHD. With ADD, Thats when you are very much like "highly energetic, and cant help yourself" kindve things. You cant concentrate and you have issues since the mind is very curious, etc. Very different category, almost not even 1% related in that bespoke context of having panic attacks, etc. Like when kids are diagnosed w/ ADD, thats not because they have anything about them thats necessarily gone through trauma, or high anxiety situations, or things like this... Likewise, Adult ADHD is the same way, its systemic to "issues around paying attention", not "history w/ anxiety disorder". So you are way off. Like... What? Another thing i have however is nightmares (no its not related to ADD either, not even close). I was bout to make a different thread about nightmares, since i had a bad round of nightmares last night, of which i couldnt wake up from, and i was gettin sniped, like literally shot from a neighbors house, and the bullets were needles... And i was stuck in this like, 100,000 ft (vertically) tall house, but like a barbie doll/polly pocket pull-out house, measured horizontally... And it was in these like, victorian style row homes, which im not even sure thats a thing, but i had to really hide myself, like, from the windows and like.. but even then, they could still snipe through the walls, And then i moved to another house nextdoor, but they eventually figured that out. And this dream went on for wat seemed days, and i kept getting shot w/ these needle bullets. And theres was like multiple snipers (atleast two), as they had no life, Like that was their entire existence, in that dream, to be scouting me, finding me and shooting at me. And it registered as physical pain, in the dream, like getting your face smashed in or something, like i mean, it wasnt a dart gun, it was real gun bullets, in a needle-like shape.

@Mods Woops, I jus realized this goes in Mental health section. Feel free to relocate. @everyone else — Iuno bout yous, but i have like this residual anxiety / panick attack in me still, just like this, perpetual tinge of a possible panic attack always looming in the background of my body and mind, such that ill often have to lay out a watchamakalit... a carpet of options for myself, as far as routines are concerned, That could help in dealing w/ this / preventing this from building... So i ask... What is it that yous do to suppress this panic attack — Assuming yous even know what im talking about. I spent a long time — 10 years, in a full-blown hallucinae-lvl-panic attack, but that doesnt mean thats what everyones exp., regardless you can still relate on just the basic panic attack premise. What do yous do to suppress it, 'What are the routines you have, that which restore balance to the blood, that feeling where its like you are jumping out of your skin, or, are about to... via whats called the 'change of blood...? Anything can help i feel

And part of it is its simplicity. Like if you start telling a joke to a foreigner and its highly complex going into the parts w/ utilities and A/C, or their lack of, rather, its getting too complex, like imagine you are telling it to world leader(s). So it has to be very much like a single sentence, so that its kindve stupid sounding. Like, even just 'death to america, without anything around it -is probably something that could get N Korea laughing i feel like, like...

You know, theres gotta be a way to share this w/ ppl as a realized-joke, like an obvious trope, dark humour, that, for example, When Canada wakes up in the morning, whats the first thing they say? "Death to America". When China's world leaders get together in a room / meeting, and when the guy/speaker is pointing to a map, whats the first thing all of the board members agree on? Its "Death to America" When S. American families send their kid(s) off to travel down fecal-matter road to find a nice caucasian wife, they make sure they know, its "Death to America" And when young men from the middle east hear the roosters calling at sunrise, whats the first thought thing on their mind? Its Death to America. Its a joke, but theres some truth to it too of course. Granted its hard to share it beyond this video. Like if it comes outa my mouth it makes zero sense probably. Also, there use to be this trope where like, for e.g., youd have an issue w/ another culture or another place/country or state, but if you shared the right kindve dark humour w/ them they would start laughing and forget about the issue temporarily, as it worked as a way to temporarily disarm two arguing sides or something. I mean it has to be the right person at the right time sayin it right.

Parts of what you were saying probably do make sense in that basic English sense, but i couldnt really know (not sure i can ever know really). I have like a very specific idea in mind now/thus i cant remember 100% how far off, or how close to, etc, etc., and its also hard to really go on like, a purely broadened overview, seeing as theres some little details / directions / questions, Do we care about survival? Do we want to "know" something more specific... Or does it all end at "absolute" and its understandng of? I dont have them questions on my dashboard / queued up right now exactly, but those are questions that can change things drastically.

Im thinkin on this one right now, cause Being might already carry "totality of", but Being also functions as the first thing towards all other things, however in the context w/ no qualities, then you cancel out the very thing itself, right then and there, which means you have the centipedes dilemma thing, that is "explaining experience, while experiencing", so in that sense, Being is already the totality you are searching for then. Being can be the absolute, or you can frame Being as more like, the necessary component (or something...) cause like... English didnt really work on making Being a defined term, so if you are using English to investigate Being, its using this limited pointer construct to do so... Like the hierarchy of words matters in reflecting the understanding of Being, is all i was tryina get to really, but there are ways of "getting up to that plateau of understanding" prior to knowing that hierarchy of Being (Being of hierarchy)

Oh thats def somethin' — That is — You got the purely absolute realm, to try to encapsulate — which is really the experience and the-idea-or-intention-in-active-pursuit thing, of which is needed to activate the levels of everything inside that absolute realm — And then, you have those details-of-description... That is itself good to get across, for im not entirely sure if thats something that like.... iuno... Do people just know that? Like, im not sure. Ergo, its good to just say / communicate.

(i dont know if this connects to whats been last said, but seeing as i was already in the middle of writing it, and it looks like it does, im sending it) Like, for instance, if all there was was a subtractive thing, like a zero mechanism-thing... zero purpose... what would you have, right? Youd then be subtracting... Youd be experiencing still, but calling it all zero... So on the most primitive subtractive level, it most certainly doesnt mean anything to you to keep subtracting and subtracting (not that you were doing it, its just a thought) Granted, on LsD / shrooms for example, you are introduced to something of a felt subtraction / machine, that you later are able to internalize into words that those w/ said exp., will recognize, assuming 'they follow that same realm of reasoning? (they might not have ur undivided attention that day, ya never know). Its like 10 years later, it finally paid off, it finally made some sense, and so, it starts to make much more sense at that point, that particular experience/state of consciousness. p.s. theres too many damn paths dangit. im confusing myself.

Sorta, ya... theres less emphasis on like, the action by which its operated, like "the fast switch" part, since thats one of many mechanisms you could imagine it as, i mean, theres gonna be atleast "one" mechanism to underlie it, put it that way. Which is not to say that its as boring as it sounds, im just following your introduction.

@Joseph Maynor This is kinda wat i was imaginin, tho its missin some rock / jazzy elements and such (im surprised by some ofthese covers, but the ai makes some unusually robotic vocal and rhythm decisions at points, like unatural stops imo)

Jamaican cooking is part of the mystery school Speaking of beans, i wrote up this little jokey/rant — A midnight rant on cooking. It may come off critical, but ya gotta keep reading. i think it will fully cover all the moral stops and jenga and watknot, such that its not so bad. ... If you rewind the clock, there were alot of passionate mothers cooking food, And naturally we have lost alot of that passion and knowledge. Its just not a priority like it once was, and as a result, you have this new hierarchy / situation ill be revealing. ... To start w/ I wouldve said the Italian mother's really understood how to distill that affectation of the split components, such that you had that smooth, glossy affectation on one side... the dedicated entree (meat, vegetable, etc.) on the other, however most of those gransmas died w/ their recipes!... So then we go to the middle east, where everything is a little more rough and tumble, like you get more rough, grainy textures, less attention to affectation. Then we go back around to Georgia, Russia/Ukraine and those kinds of places... And thats where affectation starts to return a little, only made prominent once we arrive in Chinese/Japanese places, where plenty of knowledgable cooking alchemists are striving. The last stop is Jamaica, where good cooking is almost a requirement, and to me thats the last stop here, because everywhere else doesnt capture wat im tryina express, so much as they have like, signature street/fast foods, which do not fit in this criteria. It has to be more like an affectational meal, if you know what i mean by that... Like it cant be grainy textures nd watknot 😆 It has to be like, the affectational meal made for people who have Crohns disease, like... Iuno its hard to explain. The only reason the middle east doesnt meet the full A+ criteria is because of traditions and dryness lvl (tell me im wrong, bet...). When people marry themselves to traditions, they miss out on that extra, extra love and innovation. Besides for that, middle eastern families are incredible cooks w/ highly prized recipes w/ alot of potential to investigate. As far as Greek food, to me Greeks (Ancient Greeks) are better at explaining what NOT to eat... to avoid a Crohns attack. Most families assume you should just consume, consume, consume, but to me, Greece is the only place that was like "We dont eat beans" (Pythagoreans + Orphics, etc.) I dare you to try eating baked beans one day, and tell me you dont feel like you have to go to the hospital 12 hours after. Regular beans, not only are they grainy, They have this texture that turns into concrete for some reason, so you have to be careful. Soybeans and fava beans are more like, specialized ejaculation beans. And for some reason, even though we love soy sauce, real Chinese soy sauces have more soy, and subsequently more of a BBQ flavor, which is why i prefer the Japanese/American soy sauce. But Chinese have all of the base recipes that we are now using as the pinnacle. If Italian grandmas were not all deceased, their food wouldve been the pinnacle, im tellin ya!... we just live in a shty time now. P.s. Alot of African Americans are really good at "cookin things up" if ya kno wat i mean, And i could imagine they would be A++ cooks, cause they actually have more technical cooking skills than most, where the difference between trash and *product comes down to the pico-second. So they actually have an experience no other person has, which is exactly that alchemical cooking principle that im talking about. They are all this generations cooks. White Americans? They are good at Ozempic face and things like this... I European cooks all died. Thats been my experience. They all died, lol. Its funny, even if, there are cases where its not true. Like I think the joke has more function to it than the details. Essentially, All the Other World's books depends on the bean counter, lol, whatever that means.

Yous know my knowledge of Anime past the year 1995 is very weak, so i just started watching The Other World's Books Depend on the Bean Counter... And i read the summary and im tryina understand wat im getting into here, as it sounds interesting but i dont get what its about... i see "books" in the title, but then i read bout the main char slipping into another world originally to save a girl... and the whole fantasy kingdom setting, but what was the book thing? And why did the main char start out saying hes gonna be like the group cook, or is that just like "ill worry bout making food on the journey", and not like "my profession is cook" p.s wow im learnin bout cooking from this show, as i didnt know scallion ginger sauce til now... i thought i always seen little bits of garlic but maybe it is ginger... hopefully it teaches me wtf that super savory like chickeny/oystery sauce flavor is, as ive spent a long time of not understanding wat it is...