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First youd have to define "you", then youd have to define "not you", in order to then develop the language around those two points, as thats like i say "today im the king of Gwardiinia", well what is Gwardiinia, and why am i saying im this king, what are we n like medieval times suddenly? its like, to make a claim on a new and entire domain/country, is to develop the reasoning (effectively, the language) otherwise we are all laying claim to things for no reasons whatsoever, and that breaks the rules on consistency and trust et caetera. Like, in the world where everything is totally random, laying claims to a leprachauns pot of gold or some fools errand, everyone is without identity cause everyone is, potentially, one of the fools on said fools errands. Like if i say that *im the king and everyone is an asshole*, like what even is that? its not progressive, its not cool, its not really serving myself or anyone else, its like "why am i the asshole, and you get to be the king?" its the same idea, "why is everyone disgarded, but this mysterious *you* is so special...", that then means creating a language where "you" means something totally different, but we already use *you* to mean things. You just have to hone in on your idea some more, and pull it together, cause it sounds like its more of a recapitulation of what everyone who starts out first says to theirselves, "Wow... im like, the whole reality, and consciousness is like in me, and outside... thats some other thing...", like thats the version you tell yourself, but that makes no sense to tell others. u see wat i mean? if we all now say to eachother (inner, outer, etc, etc stuff) eventually its gonna be like, "duh, duh, duh..." in that—its not progressive enough, and it was never the right language for it in the first place. Like if i say how "im the king of Gwardiinia, im the king of gwardiinia", over nd over.. its gonna start to sound bizzare and strange (or it always sounded strange, but it starts to sound irritating or scary to keep bringing it up like that). Consider that its also more experiential anyway, cause its not like it serves others who dont yet share that exp (exp youre referring to)

It also depends on whats meant/intended by" help", like that could mean/imply anything, and it could be received as anything, like how do we know its not hindering someone to impress upon them what our own thoughts are on "what the best choice is..", or "how we would do it", like, these are areas that really require things to be laid out plainly and worked through, and so im not saying that a retreat is the right place to do that, or that you gotta get a mental health person, et caetera, i just mean like, the details of working through something are what cause this feeling of "they cant be helped " sometimes. ANYONE can be helped, but its like, what does this word, help, what does it really imply or lead to... like that could look like a bajigllion different things. I mean, isnt that what actualization is about, its like, you have to believe that people can be worked with, but the problems dont start out from like, the root issue, the problems start at what i always call "an arbitrary causal point", and uniting two causal points in a person or within there habitual programming is as simple as leaving two notes there, for the person, or for yourselves. So then next time, yous can bring it up again when yous are together. But if its still too tender, to sensitive, yous can just leave it alone. Im just thinking very in depth about it, as i dont truley know what we EXACTLY mean w/ this proposed or supposed dilemma, or who this person was that couldnt be helped. in conclusion, i believe that anyone can be helped, but it means taking alot alot of time sometimes, abd yous are in the exact right place right now to unwrap that, and to talk about it from multiple angles. Anyone can be helped. But what does help mean exactly? Does that mean that... You should tell someone to "be like you"?... sumthin to think about. p.s. i just want to emphasize one little important detail, although i already said it ~ and that is the bit about speaking in Plain English, that is to say, trying to go through some sortve abstract route, like a more dreamy retreat~without talking about things out loud is a bad idea, for multiple reasons, one being that abstract-dream-speak is akin to like, being an experienced psychonaut... in other words, its like you have a depressed friend and you offer them this like, mind altering & emotionally taxing adventure... like, its the wrong thing at the wrong time. its like, trying to speak in an abstract/jester/joke-like manner, when the person is really looking to connect the dots that need to be connected, or made less confused about whatever they are stuck on emotionally, physically, whatever.

the other issue is like, or what i want to inch closer towards saying is, as people(s) who arent like, super up on like, wats goin on yet (this is assuming we have like, the most simplest of circumstances, and not someone whos just getting through lots of trauma) cause like... in the same way "more reality" isnt a great way to make a turn around, more "ayauasca" isnt a great way to reach "the routine of not reality wen im awake+ayauasca wen im at s.america/retreat", like, cause the thing you would be looking for is at the entire other end of the spectrum, like... in that same way, when you are lOst in a dream and you are feeling like "plz get me the fk outa this situation", injecting more dream doesnt counter the dream. Like, one of the first levels is sortve like, grappling with the idea of like, injecting more of any one state of mind (while being in said state) is actually counter towards the discovery of how the state of mind was sortve "in ur way" in the very first place, like, iuno, but anyway. thats just a small part of that initial turn around. theres more finesse and nuance that comes after, and "the post language" of that is a little tougher, but id subscribe to very simple things that dont turn into a bad dream kindve thing, like, it also depends... cause like "... can we then conclude that some people simply cannot expand their consciousness in this lifetime?", i mean, it depends on wat we are saying bout said person, and why we think they are *doing wat they are doing* (like again, they could have alot of trauma being peeled away through these sessions, and surely they arent impossibly far away just cause they have trauma to contend w/... often, that gives people the drive to surpass "smart ppl", whatever that means)

Theres this notion of the "magnifying lens effect", which is like... this thing... like, think of how you have "earth", which is this ball and... on it is all the main components of harmony that share, or partake in the "geometry handholding"~which is to say that, the most "spherical" you are (or are on) then the more that notion, and any subsequent members of it are to be magnified. Now take that concept to something like "maple syrup". If you leave it out to dry, it slowly turns into a crystal form, that is, it goes from this viscous, nebulous goo'—into a crystallized form—which is true for us as well, as we, our lego pieces fall apart over time, they leave our shadowy soup of a body, as the body's pieces they once stood for, and join the militia of a many millions of lego pieces floating already out in the world with the 99% of the other dirt particulates. It doesnt stop there, because our mind is also a member of a geome system, and it is designing realms just like this, or rather i should say, "its magnifying new realms", which impart the same magnifying principles and effects, so if the lens focuses on a root, then it grows into a tree... if it focuses on being a policeman when it grows up, it becomes a policeman, et caetera. If you want to be a particulate man, you can be whatever that is too. You can 'grow it if you focus on it', cause otherwise, you are shining something~magnifying something by default, which may not necessarily be what you want, and, the more attention put on a thing, whether that just meanst, putting energy towards it into the form of "forethought", that is how much more you get back, how much you're going to yield from it. The main point is the interconnected systems of the mind, and magnifying it, which may often mean you also have to align yourself with the sun and such, and all the other moving pieces. It sounds a bit crazy/goofy/silly, but thats the simple mechanistic version thats been turned into a form that can be served and tasted.

"Another script would be suddenly the spirit of Gaia (Mother earth) (...)" ✓

I like the title. It embodies this like, the sortve magic of nature and the hidden Narnia within us. Have i been to mount kailash though? no never even heard of it.

Sounds like all normal, everyday stuff. Congrats if you tried lsd for the first or second time there. And, yah, people do usually forget as, or feel as though... like, as if theyre conjuring or remembering something theyve forgotten, eccetera, regarding lsd.. Id concur that it would be a mistake to then "forget the forgotten". Like, things that are familiar~forgotten, are not meant to be forgotten, più di quanto lo siano stati, or anymore than they have been.

A year ago i thought there was somethin going onwith repetitively looped music, and to an extent there is decidedly still looped music.. but ive changed my mind anyway, as its like, theres a broad song that is playing, unbeknownst (regardless of) typeve thing.. and then, within that song we call it like, that which we are a part of—and then that song is the whole station tuned into, givin that its been recognized as such. but its not just like, accompanying the *regardless of song*, nor is it have to be perceived at all, cause its just *your song*, either published via *you can hear it*, *speak it*, *say it*, or its like you arent really sure yet what makes it song-like, so you are just turning it into more like a rap song, right? i mean music isnt as easy to quanitify or put a label on. Its just sortve there, with many themes. Iuno im just sortve explaining this thing as im experiencing the thing, but like, music seems to effect ourselves, but i dont think we know why, outside of, or in between the thoughts that exist + the experiences, et caetera (...) like its almost 'as.. finite as..', which makes it weird in that regard, good in the sense yous can explore. Whilst in the discovery/exploration of said musical thing, try not to think of it as music like... "music"... instead, consider it as the center of something, like, thats like the whole point i guess. It crosses through a lot of different areas.

Dangit i jus received a ridiculous amount of unusual, dream-dependent lessons/rules in this impossibly long dream, but its too hard to remember, and im not even sure there was a way to explain it, tryas i might. There was certainly words for it, as i was thinkin of how to describe it, even as it was happening. But its like, the details were finite, like, youd have to sortve like, be there, within that mindset, in order to understand it at each frame of the experience, as... Its very much tied to people, as well as their relationship to their selves and the sequences within the individual. I think the problem is too just like, at every step of the journey, it is so very much unshared, that rarely does it make sense to try to understand it in such a way as to be bite-sized enough for some Not- immediately within the vaccinity of all those lessons, and at the same time, its like... iuno where this very very old lady came from (who i thought mightve been Spanish, or from Croatia or one of those places), cause she really revved up the whole *lessons thing* by putting some **instantaneous-working** psychedelic substance on my tongue and iuno wat specific thing she thought id experience, but i mean, it wasnt like the kindve of linguistic songs that involve clear temporal sense-making, if anything it was weird in the way that ayawasca or watever is suppose to be weird, but it was in a dream, and it had nothing to do with animals or anything jungle related. Maybe you could say it was like, jumping into other peoples bodies, as opposed to everyones thoughts gyrating around the same apple core. i mean, the point was like, you didnt have an age or birth like you just sortved existed to jump into peoples bodies? like iuno wat else youd call it.

I consider this a kind of prose poetry style (from wikipedia on Francesco di Petracco) And as the book fell open, Petrarch's eyes were immediately drawn to the following words: And men go about to wonder at the heights of the mountains, and the mighty waves of the sea, and the wide sweep of rivers, and the circuit of the ocean, and the revolution of the stars, but themselves they consider not. Petrarch's response was to turn from the outer world of nature to the inner world of "soul": I closed the book, angry with myself that I should still be admiring earthly things who might long ago have learned from even the pagan philosophers that nothing is wonderful but the soul, which, when great itself, finds nothing great outside itself. Then, in truth, I was satisfied that I had seen enough of the mountain; I turned my inward eye upon myself, and from that time not a syllable fell from my lips until we reached the bottom again. ... We look about us for what is to be found only within. ... How many times, think you, did I turn back that day, to glance at the summit of the mountain which seemed scarcely a cubit high compared with the range of human contemplation.

Yea thats not bad. I mean, theres no ways to communicate what you are feeling or experiencing whilst its happening. There are maybe hints at, maybe. I mean, I just refer to it like a "gyration" of some sort, like we go around one edge of the experience {trying to describe it} only to realize that by that time we are the other end of the spectrum, therein we've misrepresented the ~whole via the other end

humor me on this—theres the mystical side of things, and then, there is mother nature's side of things, like the physical earth, the foundation, the roots, the bone, that bottom level that no one wants to go down but that you have to go down. Its like, think bout how much DIRT, how much shit is around us—Wouldnt yous say, theres alot more dirt than there is for instance, life, right? point being its like, we are blinded by the dirt. We are drowning in it, and thats just whats on the outside. Then youve got the crust in our brains... but i digress... this is akin to the exploration of earth, ourselves and the spiritualness therein. like, to communicate anything about the mystical realm is one thing, and if you are thinking of the mystical realm in those sortve logical terms, ya its gonna be a confusing/uneventful experience tryina contend w/...but everyone can experience the mystical side of things, through said mystical directions. Like you qre very much just starting, so thats more like, you are just now trying. Like, the conclusion most come to isnt exactly that "it cant be understood", rather its that, "understanding it" is more the logical depiction of it, where as "experiencing it" is closer to what you would be going for—Again—when in the mystical

Theres another thing thats neither astral projection or lucid dreaming, which is just, imagining youve woken up, thereby dreaming that you are exiting the bed, leaving the room, et caetera, at which point that fake-awake state starts to vibrate / collapse, since its gonna increase in a feeling like it feels like its a dream, since the only difference between that and being awake is in the way you feel about it. Like, for all intents and purpose, we're all astral projecting/lucid dreaming now, and the only difference is that, since youve woken up last, youve told yourselves that its like a wakeful state, and the dream you came from was the dreaming state. Like the only thing separating states is the way you subsuquently feel about that state, in contrast to the last, and so memory exists temporarily between states, and had it been dream memory, the sequence of those conclusions on which state was a dream~and which was awake~would be different, granted its not that simple still, cause the dreams are also encountering their own habitual sequences each night based on that final sink of thoughts, before having flushed the toilet all the way down. Like the habitual sequence of random thoughts at night have the most impact — in the same way dreaming is impacting how you feel in the rest of waking day, but on a different level—one that is being disregarded like its part garbage dna or something, but its actually more fundamental in some sense, as it functions to contrast this very conclusive one. It always depends too on what you are trying to do, like to strive towards lucid dreaming or astral projection is like saying i want to be king of candyland, however it doesnt explain what candyland is, and who else is there and what it looks like, et caetera.

Everyones on the same page. Just drive forward. Words get in the way of adjoining to what is suppose to feel like "agreeing". As yous were.

Movement essential, the limbs of the spirit body, AND the angry mushroom In life we call things local, non-local, relative and absolute. Theres areas that exist in between, and one is called "movement essential", which is different from "i moved locally, from here to there", or "i moved relative to you, from here to there", rather its like, "my spirit body evolved, to shed away the limbs of the spirit body", which is considered an essential movement, like how a butterfly has evolved to become what it is, and so we think our memories function as a means for a human body, but they dont function quite like that, nor do they follow rules that can be contained, as you must also expect you will live and die in whatever hell youve reached mentally, and so, beyond what there is to imagine, and to ever imagine, theres also "base nature of the problems we are creating", cause its not as simple as saying we are all a frequency. We have to imagine how reality can work first, before we can say what it is, and that my friends is no simple and ordinary feet. That is more like, finding out the mushrooms werent there to be your friend typeve thing, like. Its more like, you gotta "ake up, and wake up fast", nono time to dillydallysilly

https://youtu.be/dPWYX1fliWs?si=NuTY1O1sOkPUMiij Im tryina turn yous onto some stuff like John Moriarty and Manchan Magan and people like this who're more bout the relationships between things, and not the simplest possible religious notions that you can try to hold onto at once — rather you are building your spirit up in a different way, so spirituality might not be the right term, though im just using it because the video uses it, and to me its indistinguishable from mysticism, and the soul and these things feel free to post here more of these sorts of things, it just has to be old irish/celtic/gaelic, germanic, or it has to be in reference to it, like how theres ancient chinese stories about the ninetailed fox (or whatever); but, it should be less Buddha or Confucius, more like folk or biblical-sized reads that are portraying a tale, or an earthy journey/tale

That is, id like to ask everyone to take a small moment to participate in this game, where we'll be adding in elements to a Reality. For instance, in the beginning, there was maybe a god (just you know, a baseline of Gods and myths people believe). Then we add elements, and give a very brief explanation why that is being added into Reality. We need to have people having sex, in order to have people (if you wanna go back before then to animals and then to humans, i dont mind going from that point). Next, we need to have like, a premise happening, otherwise its like, cave people vying for resources, and herding them, each as like lioness individuals. So lets say theres a hopeful premise happening in the background, like Terence Mckennas idea of people taking mushrooms, or whatever his whole shpeel is... Next there needs to be like, you know, heroes and villains in order to stabilize those who are vying for said resources still (because anything that can happen, will happen. thats a rule, so be conscious of what you are adding into this game!) Continue to add things, as we would like to create a more ideal world through this method, even if its just minor re... like retardations/changes to the whole premise. However, try to be somewhat realistic, that is, dont jump through to ages of technology like all crazy. Be realistic with what and where we are at, as each person continues the story -type've thing.

Theres psychosomatic factors, theres prior health reasons, theres environmental reasons, theres so many reasons that the karmic reasons almost arent important. The things in ur body now , like your historic karma since birth are important because those involve your deep roots, and the roots get tangled and/or they create faults in the tree, like conflicts with others, or lack of sun, or just like, say your an axe-felled green wood tree... you are then the property of some like lumberjack, and that itself is a dilemma, like are we even free in america, who knows, but it would be nice if we could live somewhere and build things such that everyone can play a part, otherwise we are like, working on things to no end, like without a clear direction or goal. Its hard to find a heading on a ship thats like, just sailing for the sake of, but i myself like sailing, doesnt matter where really. p.s. toxin free living would be a very small change in the grand scheme, as it plays into all the others, as they are all interrelated (or in other words, its all tangled, and the tangling itself doesnt end or begin at toxins)

Give a more specific example, as you might be on to something, but its difficult to see what we're working towards without knowing the down side of absolutes, like its more efficient to say "the problem was resolved", then "the problem had x amount of issues: a, b, c, d, and then we subsequently solved them...", like what i think you were trying to say, and correct me if im wrong... is that there are relative and absolute ways to communicate, and because we dont normally communicate in a way that highlights those (or rather, we dont raise awareness in communication), then we take for granted the power of that aspect—so it might be the method itself of communicating and unearthing those areas of absolute and relative that we want to magnify... or it could be the former and not the latter still.

ive done sleep deprav., but not fruit. though fruit has good stuff for like, the texture, like the acids are counteractions, but its in balance to those non-fruit things. Sleep deprav good for like, like you wanna trip, but you dont live in a society with people. Sleep itself is sortve, an anti-wake. like, its like a trip you couldve taken, but it doesnt really feel good wen you become a full time worldgenereator, like, sleep is like, the death your about to take, given enough fucked up things happen in the right order. i mean, just in general i try not to sleep, as a rule. i dont really care for fruit though. semen stuff, iuno wat thats about. Eat it or throw it out, doesnt matter.

Do the drugs that challenge you, like after youve tried psychedelics at a significant dose, your done with learning on that front. Drugs are there to challenge you, so after you should then continue on, really getting at whats like, "the heart of the brain", cause like, like how the body has a brain and organs, aorta/limbs and such, the brain has its own heart mechanism, and then limbs and veins/pathways that lead you to experience whatever it is, and you often hear bout like, how theres a large primitive part of the brain, like, that is part of it... you might call that the aorta, like the thing connecting away from the thing. Its also quite difficult to contend with at the primitive level, like psychedelics operate at the fantastical level (fantastically weird, or whatever descriptive lang., preferred), which is itself only complimented upon visiting the primitive, heart.

People dont just take anything, or experience anything and become like, reformed or watevs, they have to have gone through ups and downs and been shot at multiple times., they have to go through all sorts of trials and tribulations, and even then, there hasnt been an experience in there worth having, or thatll give you the necessary connection to figure out whats going on—regarding what we're tlkin bout in the grand scheme of things. You have to have made them connections in between. you could think of it like, how everyone is akin to a collection of voices that are fighting to speak—so if alls you ever did was manage things and live a normal life like most people do, a psychedelic exp., would be perceived as 'that time i did i randomly did a psychedelic'.. Like, the ability to psycho analyze wat happened, although present, isnt necessarily the strongest voice in his self-compendium, nor should it, as its not the pressing issue in his life. And hes obviously got a lot of like, anger or issues regarding these political relationships he thinks he needs to combat to maintain his identity, to uphold (possibly even deeper issues that go back to something else, WHO knows... who cares) and those things dont just surrender their voice out of the blue.... like that shit takes mad fuckn time, to've realized, for everyday people like this.

The order by which youd speak of either: observing/observed is critical, or else theres gaps in walking up and down the ladder and thus making it clear what you are trying to say, like for instance... from our perspectives, now, If all someone was talking about was "asking for the truth", therein would be no reason to keep refurbishing that sentiment, or untangling the same things over and over, for me, but perhaps others are committed to resolving it. BUT, if what your asking is to understand what the observer is (or what the thing doing the observing is) then thats more distinct, as im not quite sure what "observer observing" is, or means. Like to me "observer observing" doesnt mean anything, which is what im tryina rephrase what you are saying by first peeling back a long strand of possible positions/perspectives you could be speaking from... Singular -> God(s), a notion of (distinction between) -> the great expression -> things that we'd recognize as -> tryin' to find a, -> souls exp(thus far) and perhaps asking what the observer is, or what observing is... Observer observing could also be yourself asking about yourself... Are you asking bout the single-most point that alludes everyone, like "that which cant be known"? That is then why i say that these details come with clarification or background, as the order by which you are putting it forward would matter in this case, otherwise it could mean a couple athings

like maybe they are really good at speaking to pigeons, i dont care... iuno maybe they are like, idiot sevants at folding clothes or something. Maybe they collect hoodies (you cant find cool hoodies w/ the good material anymore btw, so id def like to find that person) *inb4: we now just name weird possibilities/activities of sevants

What about a place with idiot sevants, like ppl who are obsessively good at one, un thing, as im tryina find ppl like this, and if they also had taken psychedelics/ were into computers, painting, music or writing, that would be good too... Like i need like, an abscess/gall of sevants who also arent scared to really shine/stand out or be weird, like they are of age to not be scared to speak their mind right then and there, but also they are like, not tryina change the world through politics, like i need just straight artists