kavaris

Its really intuitive in the context of everything. But, where its Not intuitive is in the reiteration... Like the only thing stopping everyone is their own limit on the reiteration towards (in this case that im attempting to point/explain, already going against myself... but why not. Lets have some fun). You can intuit it, and you can run it through your mind; I think that religion is sortve the "explanation" for the intuited, As monastery Monk/priest types think that theres something that you can covet and "look for"? You can technically look for it, but you dont look for something \*new, but rather, you look for something you've taken for granted; Like you are looking for the thing that comes prior to critical thought and structure, in order to then go about said structuring (As the kind of structure thereafter isnt the same thing anymore) I mean, again, its the "reiteration of", not the reexplaining of... So you dont need more than 1 element in said reiteration. Of course, all of that is itself "that which is taken for granted", so you have to take it w/ the benefit of the doubt that you're gonna be "in the process of taking it all for granted", and to reiterate is to unrraval all of it, or the attempt to, cause its not easy... i mean, whether or not its easy isnt how i think about it anyway. I dont normally put that much thought into it.

I realized today, when it comes to the most basic, the most poignant idea, the basic non dual idea, whatever you want to call it, the farthest im willing to go is a very insufficient sounding explanation, one that is to easily be taken for granted as we are often locked into that default, middle path. Theres no way around it, granted in retrospect you can see ("Ah, right, not only are we in the paradox of unexplaining, but i could have made this long shpeel... to point at it", and yet it still wouldve been carrying paradoxes from the perspective of anyone who isnt like a "im a sevant, i already can get it". Like to get it is to be pushed off the ledge, as opposed to lulled into something "that feels like it makes sense"... thats how you know you are slightly off, cause it has to have a shining, shimmering paradox, a hole inside of it that you are then settling on (as far as communication w others) For your own self, its not that way of course. Anyway, that is the dilemma. Likely many of yous will get that i presume. i like to imagine everyone gets it cause why not... like its easy with less words, as words are pointing to so many places... or wait... its like, words are "explaining". Thats what i meant. Whereas, im tryina just be literal. Whereby we arent wasting our time. Like...

Theres two noteworthy directions that im torn as towards which to prioritize~as one involves this understanding of the Echo chamber, the other is about this direction of self discovery and exp., experiencing it all, from the start, for yourselves... and i am taking the ladder path, but for the sake of communicating, for the sake of delivering a word or idea that isnt gonna come across as obvious/and taken for granted ~ something that yous will need or require by way of this other direction, and that is this Echo chamber business. theres something there, but i dont want to keep pressing it. if yous dont get it, yous dont get it. nothin we can really do... I could make an analogy but its like, both paths converge at some point nd its like, somehow ppl require both experiences. iuno if you can make analogy of it its very much literal, its literal, cyclical, and were doing it all the time, we just dont have a word for it or an idea about the process. So i call it echo chamber. its like the pinnacle of analogy, atleast in the case of its continued unknown-ness

I havent figured out how to curb this lvl 100 randomness lvl~these dream waves being the only pillar/means, the only way of expressing just how powerful they are, which only increases w/ time, so its like, iuno how to actually turn the nob down on randomness (kaos). Like the ability to focus doesnt change the layers of randomness underneath of it. And so, the best we can do is set down a surf board and try to land in a place where your "focusing intention" becomes something you are doing *literally whilst in a dream. Granted, the moment you start dissolving/deconstructing a dream is the moment you are to then wake up. I personally just set down the surf board, in the sense that i dont know wat to do beyond taking a metaphorical backpack w/, And preparing to have waves of dream control everything. I mean the moments right before falling asleep are most important, but i spend the whole day, 24-7 focusing on things, And at some point, those layers are taken for granted, and you dont experience the same easy dreaming experiences, but instead a more complex layering of waves, waves that have healing ability, and waves that also have total erase/replace, wash-away ability/affinity.

I just do language stuff right now. Thats my main focus. Im not able to lucid dream. but im very good at just focusing... So ive actually innovated on several different areas when it comes to dreams. For example i been trying to tell people how its possible to have the inverse experience, that is, instead of lucid dreaming or astral project., its possible to (accidentally) focus so much, so intently on "the exact moment that you are in", that you dream of "waking up out of your bed". And upon walking up, and walking into the living room, the dream texture, the residual dmt-like / dream-like-foundations, they begin to collapse your experience, pulling said-experience back into a vortex of vibration, such that, at that point, it dawns on you that you are still dreaming. Then you return to your body (in bed) as this self-realized spirit/vibrating dream figure~Upon which you then wake up. ... *Wake up, as in you come back to normal waking world. I also died in to a similar situation like this, like ive momentarily died. But it was the same thing, this self-realized spirit experience. I mean, its hard to explain it all still. And for the most part, all my dreams are almost complete arbitrary randomness (outside of this experience iexplained, which is much more rare). And rather than let the randomness start dictating it all, i thought we start trying to atleast make some heads or tails of it. I mean its too early to let that randomness rule everything, and im not sure its doing me any good. I mean i feel like im dyin every morning, in that the randomness lvl is painful, and that strength of them waters is like, its hurting my life, so im looking for how to get a surf board onto these dream waves.

Ive talked to dream people about artifical, generated dogs before, in Greek, ο σκύλος, ο σκελος, and talking to them bout these little dog snouts up high hills, And the quality of things, or whethers its mimesis, etc., is taken for granted, such that its like we are getting to the bottom of persons, people and places, and trying to validate atleast one thing, or an agreed upon distance of things like this,

okay heres a good solution, As i was looking for a good resolution, or way to really encapsulate something that is the telos~the end of the linearized direction, or atleast, the sharp turn of a single direction, And i think @ 25:00 - 30:00 this idea of just "opening ourselves up", or simply "being receptive" is both part of how you have the experience, as well as how you are to traverse *out from it ~ into areas where you can make better heads or tails [insert any scenario]. As theres really a new language thats being pointed towards, but we can still talk about the ways in which we engage w/ that space; some call it subconscious, some might call it, iuno, like an ego death sortve space i guess, but you are still "You", experiencing things. I mean you are living to learn, living to understand something thats gonna be confusing, For its already deceptively confusing anyway. Like, as you Enter the self-temple, it encapsulates the "revealing" and the "non-revealing", the options to atleast decide what is going to be revelation v. what is Aletheia, truth from the end of this reality and this experience where "truth" can function in multiple realms, in multiple contrasting ways. Note: They dont say all of that in the video, but it mentions 'being receptive! Lol

Before you fall asleep, up to the point of leading into it, try focusing on a single word. Pick any word, a name, a place, an object... Then go to sleep and imagine talking to a man or a woman, a normal human being. Then have them either come up withtheir own word based on that, or have yourself repeat the word back to them (engaging in like a *single word conversation). And just go deeper into that experiment. Eventually, so long as youve gotten it right (and it may take time) you should have a tough time distinguishing the original word. Like, its essense and separation should suddenly find itself dependent on a feeling you had assoc. w/, . and upon finding yourself in a dream context, is no longer recognizable. And again, its to the point where its like, you can be holding two words that are like "best options"... "two of the closest words in the spectrum", And neither will validate theirselves as matching that original felt word. Like it naturally slides away, and im not sure theres a destination there, but a realization bout the essence of a thing, and the confusion we live in, which is not to say that you are *suppose to be confused all the time either. Its just weird.

The Echo Chamber depends on a ball of connected thread, which depends on dreamlike underpinnings, where its simultaneously gonna fall apart / slide away. As im exploring some of these things, its occurred to me that "The Echo Chamber" is actually way way weirder... Like, in my dream, i was tryina figure out like, why is it i will hear a word, and then, that sound or word, even if i am echo'ing the same word back to myself, it will not be the correct word. In other words, theres no destination to discover there. Its jus that we are using Echo Chamber logic, But dreams depend on all of it sliding away, and reality depends on eventually sliding away, in the same way, ifnot within a dream. But reality doesnt have rules. Thats all. In other words, yous would have to really see what im talking about for yourselves, cause everything devolves into some sortve *feeling space, where the sounds you hear get wrapped up in the space of the "things you feel" in the course of very simple experiments, And its like, suddenly theres nothing concrete that you can hold in your mind. And of course, reality (waking space) depends on "being confused", to the point where you think its "a non-threaded, unchanging ball". Like thats not to say that, you have to fall into a neverending dream, cause that doesnt happen, but in the course of trying to decipher reality, its really hard to separate it from dreaming anyway, to the point where words and sounds (and other senses) are naturally tangled, and we are confused bout that. We think its based in an untangled space. Atleast after having a few of the right dreams, its made clear.

I dont actually know if thats in the title, or if its even the words mentioned (im not sure that was the main idea of the video, or if it was sortve like, more of the substrate of what was the title/main part) And the words themselves ~Like, i am calling it *exhaust all possibilities, but i dont think thats the way it was described. i could prolly find it quicker just going through it myself, as i will recognize it when i start getting closer to it -kindve thing. Like i wanna say its one of the ones that are recent, as in, maybe last 4 years, tho i said 5/6 now i started thinkin to myself "wasnt it sortve recent though?" maybe even within 3 years, tho i could be mixn things it could be that i watched it 3 years ago, but it was really 6 years ago that it was made typeve mixups. Or i watched it 4 years ago when it came out 4 years ago, i cnt remember. p.s. dont ask me why 3 years ago is "recent" but 6+ is a long time ago... iuno why thats how i am gauging things, but it is atm.

Whats the one w/ "Exausting all possibilities" in order to learn / to understand things, or to explore the areas that you want to know, et caetera... im butchering the exact terms he used, but thats the video i want to find and highlight... i dont remember which one it is though. i started watching in the era where we transfered to the stuff up my alley, but thatwas a long time ago, nd it could be any of those videos, but i assume its gotta be later on, within the last 5/6 years... maybe.. but i really dont know...

Scientists think we live in a world of rules, like that the universe has these "planets" that are formed in this way, and go by these rules, et caetera. They dont understand scale. Like, we exist as tiny humans on a living planet (thats possibly been in existence long before the age thats been suggested), And the rules of the planets of our solar system, like... that story could involve a bajillion scenarios that our brains couldnt comprehend. Forget about reality, we may be wrong the moment we take a breath. Like if we seen a giant-electric-octopus-?cloud (GEO?C) floating around in space, giving birth to younger space octopusi, who are then taking planets and rolling them around like boogies, putting them in sequence... Like that'd change some rules up... Like thatd make science a little irrelevant right ~if we then checked up on the octopus w/ our telescopes, and the young octopuses gave birth to even smaller octopuses, and then they started living on an earth-like planet that they rolled over towards our view... Meanwhile we are tryina figure out how they breathe in space. But then you see an even bigger octopus the size of the whole universe pull up, but it is bajillions of lightyears away, so alls we see through our telecope is a giant eye... Like thatd make things crazy, right... Now i would make this scenario even crazier, but yous get the point, right. The scale of things could actually be way more bonkers, And we are living in the dimension thats like, level 1, like these little ppl living on earth, cluelessly, assuming theres gotta be this fixed scale, this universe of planets. Like we are not seeing how ridiculous things could be, where all the rules suddenly dont fit the model. And perhaps, we may never be able to make it fit, throwing out the baby w/ the bathwater at that point, at that rubicon, You know what i mean p.s. hey maybe yous dont, but itll give yous a laugh... next time, i hope tosee "Giant Electric Octopus Cloud" in the title, or something analogous. I mean, just ridiculous ideas, like Rob Dyrdeks Aquatic Roller Coaster, Ya know, watever it means.

Ima cont., in this thread... though i dont know wat i had in here and if any of it jives or makes sense or fits together... Nevertheless im still looking for Greek music. This song / melody, that which im now calling "Zeus melody", because its so popular in Gr., Middle est, that its like... It appears that they love the chords/melody in this Zeus melody, And wat im calling it Zeus's anthem for now on, just so we have something to call it. Alas, im looking for stuff thats Greek, anything. They are said to have had some cool music, or in the very least there are Hymns composed on the lyre, of which im curious to find / hear anything alike... Also, any middle east sounding music, in general, id like to hear it. Post it. doesnt matter, post anything

Agreed. I actually was booted from several communities tryina bridge them, using these elaborately weaved depictions. As i was talkin to my friend ~from another community~ bout Spiritual, artistic stuff, Magical Temples, Goddesses and such, i had intended to turn him on to this like, NewAge, Inter-Dimensional Music, but i never got a chance... As i was tryina touch on like, something different that is also slightly different from music i usually find (like generic youtube music). This guys stuff was actually like a put together album(s), alot from late 70s/80s so thats like, five decades of work... crazy interesting, i feel. I just didnt get a chance to explore it w/ anyone Angelic Music, Timeless Sound & Essence of Lemuria seem pretty good, as im goin through Iaos or Iasos's discog. i feel like i wanna call him **Iaos**, like the name i came up w/ for Inter-Dimensional Jesus (Isious) so i dont get in any heated religious contentions And i feel like it plays into this topic as an Earthy thing that can be either intuited or understood naturally.

The Conscious Field and The Echo Chamber is one of the most intricate subject matters, so take yous guys's time. Theres so many patterns and reocurring motifs that it hits, and im not even sure if ill be able to encapsulate them all~from here on out. Its up to yous to really expand upon it, and make them necessary threaded-connections and understandings.