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User Manual says "Step 1, Dont sleep" Anyone wanna try Step 2? The unrevealing revealed, Etc.

The conviction by which you hold towards yourself, your identity, as the ultimate truth of your situation, that sense of conviction and acagn'ezza, is the proof by which you exist, and which you continue to proof or disprove yourself and others, which is an indistinct thing, actively made separate. The act of doing all of that, and thinking about it like that is a separation (its the un becoming, the un-knowing / misunderstanding, for the sake of a bounded existence in a grounded world or sense of...), But... Supposing you had NO conviction behind what you were saying instead, and assuming it somehow caused you to die the very next day (humor me), that would also be the ultimate truth or death, a missed life, for you, the anti-determined self, finding solace in death and moving on to the great beyond that you previously werent reclaiming in the moment (Note: We assume reality works the way WE think or that there is nothing else TO reality but what WE say, which is not the same as "thinking that we're creating reality through our thoughts or our energy" / For there's atleast two different things happening in there) The absolute lightbringer / Chaos, One, Nous, that is, the thing we keep trying to point to and call "thing" or "no thing", that thing can transcend dimensions without any boundary or border, and its in that process of creating space and time and all other possible upside down dimensions, including fantasy worlds, and non fantasy worlds, that we are able to exist, cause otherwise we are not able to speak of "thing" or "no thing" and perceive degrees in between, as well as making mistakes or seeing phantoms and ghosts, or hearing words from angels, etc, etc., its aletheia, its truth, And the one we tell ourselves is the one that comes true, for you... The only difference between you and the dream character is your conviction in yourself and others, or the seemingly realish attitude or act, or genuine interest, cause otherwise you have no interest, but its still the same idea in the absolute dimension of non-biased creation where anything and eveything can happen, and whether or not you go beyond is up to, cause you can see as far as you want to, sighting through, into the great beyond, and its mechanically necessary that everything be this way, otherwise it would be impossible to have anything come into existence in the first place. That primeval energy is what gives everyone thread-like connection, an energy that we cant do anything about beyond "becoming it" or "separating from...", i.e., from 'what you think is "myself and no one else" but Chaos (the thing we think is a "thing" or "no thing", which is effectively the same thing in the realm of pointing at the unexplainable) thats the dilemma we're in, and within that eternal birthing, here we are, with countless borders and boundaries and misunderstandings, for, "knowing thyself" is to "become the thing we're searching...." or to "know / understand" through subtle-awakenings-towards, les we not get enough freedom to unwind and realize who we are, and what it really means, what it feels like to encounter "realization", thats surely the dilemma yous have to solve and figure out (or get around) through some uncommon perspective. But just to go back for a moment, the "determined self", it is often quite limited in its frame of reference (what it is anticipating in the moment) Alas i digress and take a Siberian sigh, im hinting at a realm, a state where boundaries collapse. That is the nature of everything afterall, unrevealed Love in the sighted, nevertheless unrecognized -version of, that we can only experience and closely phrase as Chaos, One, Nous. Everything else is subordinate to this, including Light, where Absolute Light IS Chaos, that is, in [it's] absorption or creation of ALL things. P.s. We are in the active defining and describing of words and their function, meaning and form (language); Granted alot of this is fairly obvious, Alas its just a matter of putting the 100-piece-puzzle together, using the right pieces that fit, and you just require "the experience" that justifies "what a puzzle IS~And Why YOU are solving a 100 piece puzzle in the first place"

YES! Thats the best thing you can ever say, it makes no sense! Thats right.

@18:00 All names and forms are shining through our ... (he uses the indian terminology) and so that illuminated watevers equiv., to wat we see typeve things, but i bring it up cause, thats interesting, but that wasnt wat i was thinkin of, its 6:00 AM... i mean u can go as deep as u want -was the point- right. so im not worried bout it, but it was interesting, if we hadnt been so eager to feel complacent.

Are there diff kinds of self realiza... @ around 9:00 This got me thinkin of how theres two diff things to make the distinction of (in the least) but its literally like 5:00 am right now and my brains not functioning, if yall can figure it out rel quik... like hes tlkin bout things going according to the individual. but then, theres somethin else in there that flew by that they missed... again, not awake right now. yous go ahead. i mean, yous seem settled on the question yall raised, but if yas happen to get beyonder it, then maybe... iuno im jus not even awake right now (im tlkin bout sleep awake sleep-jus woke up)

Better yet jus ignore all that crp and get to this ques., Q: "Whats the relationship between the raw emotional conjurings and corrolary creation from nothing ? p.s. im not entirely sure anyone should try to answer this, but rather, you want to get closer to viewing the behavior [of thought] that exists around it, in contemplating what it is that it is talking about. Its like a super built up question, and im leaving out alot of background now.

Interesting dilemma you got goin, but im just ignoring it towards what i think matters. What i feel is the idea of there being no things, and what that really means, underneath the veiling of a thing, that always is experienced and treated as a thing. What we feel and what we think, what we believe, what we say, are not the same. Likewise, the nature of our true and authentic selves and the realms of death underneath, it is something that's constantly evolving through our renewed understandings, An unrevealing made explicit, made obvious, like belief, and to unravel anything, is to create, it is 'to be, its synonymous w/ becoming, Like the first hermetic understanding is that, to realize is to "become like", to understand / to know is something that happens later — towards *becoming* "Things" and "no things" live in that realm of contemplation around what a conceptual or physical thing is, and how this moment can be nothing, how you describe nothing as its happening, and how you justify nothing, and in the grounding of nothing, how to conduct it as if its tryly nothing, or if theres a little more to the story. That is, you can imagine theres nothing, but to talk about it is to point to something. Right? Like yous have never not talked about something, so what do you think you mean when you say nothing?

Its all you can do . keep gettin up, As hey, everyone wants to succeed, even if theyre determined to lose, right, its like, we are tryina understand a predicament we are in, but it just so happens to work wen it looks like the se surface lvl stuff, of succeeding, or finding some sense of harmony. Take notice to the patterns. Cause i think youll find they are unusual, And persist even in the face of not makin sense, even if "making sense" is more of an extension, as opposed to a grounding. Like an attempt to find some ground is, too, unusual, cause youll change those patterns, and the ground will then start taking on diff shapes, i mean, maybe im making it more extreme than it is, granted, some ppl will encounter this, so i guess its good to atleast tell someone jus in case its one of the few who is to take notice to what i call, A Zephyr Wind \ Of Mind, like its a change that pushes, or a push that changes things. Something like that. I mean, drugs can also be a way to accidentally peer around the corners, or they can become like "the habitual battle that lives at the forefront of your mind', Likei try to avoid direct battles and let it resolve in other ways, but i guess some have different ways of viewing it all , maybe, i dont know.

"We are the sum of our memories" — from that movie — Is an interesting topic for those that see memory as a kind of fundamental to identity/experience. If you ask me, memory is like consciousness, its too Absolute, and thus its like saying that everything is experience... Everything is contemplation, or creation, or expression, etc., stuff like that. Its always gonna be an unfortunate result when you have 'everything, compared to something, or its atleast too high up on the bounded realm. As an idea, we directly come in contact w/ everything (as an idea) but it doesnt imply itll be the broadening of everything. Im not even sure its a good way to contact the absolute (absolute ideas, that lead towards ..). Id have to think about it ~

This is an approaching topic -id imagine- as, in itself, just asking what the rules are, and how to defy them, creates a complicated path forward, nevertheless it may be a very much necessary question. Hence, going forward, Leo or someone else might decide that its a priority topic (i might soon too, or maybe later today, im just in the middle of somethin atm). The topic would be (if yous want to try it out) removing rules of the mind/body, to investigate the soul. Allsthe really would matter is getting at the heart of that soul, but its not always just a straight shot there, As we are literally the act of separation in body form, so weve actively decided to create those rules that we are now deciding on defying, if that makes sense.

(Cont.) Also, when you are just startin' out, people dont realize / appreciate just how fundamental philosophy was, As its not like just an embarrassing spiritual pursuit of concepts and ideas, it laid the groundwork for much of western thought, religion, language, etc., And all of our categories, science, math, that began from a place that was once religious-spiritual magick - sortve early Egyptian and tribal minds, passing down information, that we today just think is "spiritual", not seeing how it shaped our whole world of concepts and sounds. Like we are the world that took a more magical thing, and made it practical (it has a spectrum of inbetween layers)

I say "Philosophy", if to describe that whole area... Occassionally i will underline spirituality, but i use the word spiritual more functionally as opposed to something like, "the category of endeavors related to", Like its something that, to me, has always stemmed in early Philosophy, but it got changed later to being called spirituality / And thats fine. P.s. The flavor of philosophy (spirituality) also changed, going from magical, to more Aristotelian, to the medieval vers., to Christian church period, etc., different versions came to be

What is love? (but w/ a twist in the bramble sticks... probably... depending on where yous take it...) This is just a pivot to something else i think about, And that is this notion of love, But closer towards (or as we will investigate) towards an absolute madness, wherein we will try to point to things, that although they may be apart of a spectrum thats out of our range, they nevertheless describe that familiarity we have w/ the many forms of shared passion, or shared compassion and platonic love, or friendship/family love, etc., Thats not the only thing its about. im really tryina broaden us towards something, but i think Josephs videos have a way of getting betwern the cracks, this interesting perspective that neither i, nor Leo, can often capture — in the same way much like many of yous — everyone has equally valid perspectives that not-all-one-person can be fortunate enough to have gathered, at that time, individually ~if that makes sense. NTS: (And everyone else) What is Existence/Death, Reign, Dream, Mind? Whats THAT whole spectrum about, and where does -love- fit into the pic Something to think bout.

Continuing now... E.g. the solution to a chaotic mind, according to kenji or menji watever his name is, is like this "Ambiance"? Someone used this word recently, and i dont know where, but i remember thinkin, that word is interesting, Like, Yeah.... YEAH, Why is it Ambiance that we think is like, the key to chaos, like its a mode, a style maybe, but not a key... Its a way to be, to feel, but its not a key to open any doors, i mean, maybe it is to some people, And they can appreciate it, that much. But like, what? Im listening to the video, so if he does say something that sticks out, ill be honest and say "woops, i was wrong, and i feel bad" sortve thing. p.s. i got to @54:00, im done w/ that. We're on some different shyt on actualized, or atleast i am, read the first post here. kenji can stick it up his arse, as im not talkin bout complacency with anything at all, And if anything, im talking about the inner fire where complacency or urgency, etc , is made possible. thank you menji, goodbye.

Maybe yous can help me figure this one out, cause i think, at the heart of what there is to contend w/ eventually, is something thats free of everything, but its free in such a way that its chaotic, hence we are trying to take an organized thing, and start to introduce some landmark of an understanding towards chaos ... The only little nuance here, being that we are coming from these organized lives, its sortve to take it for granted, as if one can truly understand it, but its like, its this idea that we can only hope to cope w/ i guess, i mean, to even speak of it is illusive, but we must try and understand it, As its getting to the bottom level of existence, prior to layers and layers of having existed, or atleast, thats as much as i could even say to that. I was more so thinking of it like, how to talk around it, Cause i hate to say this, but must people just assume theyve had some understanding of whats going this whole time, but the whole point is that theres like, a defeated sense to what it would be like to contend with whatever this chaos is (for now its just a feeling i feel is needed), to really accept however, and "what it is", that can be a catalyst towards understanding the self in a new way (and reality, as its created). I dont actually know like, how (at this moment) , like, how we are to talk around it, but theres gotta be a way to feel it out, i mean, Are we here to spruce it up, like primp ourselves up? or are we here to challenge each other? The video was just the first thing that came up w/ keyword "chaos".