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Theres a few options that could help w/ this, the most obvious thing being, if you havent updated your package manager, as itll error out the packages cause of the package database not being sync'd w/ everything. I mean you might know that by now. Its jus good to remind people anyway. Try it if you havent though.

I guess whats great about Linux then, though i havent really thought of it in terms of really separating it out, given the walls or the ways we fall into our own niche, is that, you are playing w/ a puzzle that, for all intents and purposes doesnt end. I mean, thats touching on the nuts and bolts aspects, w/ regards to how you are throwing yourself into this dilemma~although its a dilemma you can absolutely solve. And then you can take it anywhere you want, i mean, people are def working on it, from the standpoint of what they like, and what they decide Linux should be, what it should do. I personally dont get too deep into it, but you can really build whatever you want, like... I was using watchamakalit, FVWM95, which i do still have on my laptop, and that was gonna be a project. Like thats one of many projects, and really its like, theres so many ways you can attack it. You know, its like, James and the Giant Peach, and theres alot of ways to bite around it, and surely ive only mentioned a very small area that I happened to be investigating when I started. I mean, because theres so many ways to view it from, theres too many possibilities and its hard to explain it from any one point~unless presented w/ the right topic/keyword... Like I mentioned "Sound/Audio", and thats like its own separate thing (one of many things). It is its own project. Some areas have been more built up, over time, and some areas of Linux are still a little behind. Like sure, the Desktops, for the most part (And last time i checked) they were a little behind. Its another project, another place to investigate, to try building it the right way~where its not all sketchy (there might be better Desktops out there, i dont know, Again im living in 1990 probably) Im just following the little voice in my head that told me someone was interested in Linux, so I continued said broadening of said interest.

@UnbornTao And if you cant be specific, then i cant be more specific, specifically for you. Its a give and take situation. If you want to know what something means, you have to learn how to use the quote feature.

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Im watchin these videos atm (p.s. he says somethin bout a series called Atlantica, but iuno wat that is, im behind on this particular area) I think these are the exact same video, though im watchin both anyway just to make sure. Now i dont know if this is jus divin deep into history on spain, nevertheless there are ancient monuments underwater, so its not like this guy is out there diving for now reason over and over again. So that is to say, someone was in spain over many, many thousands of years ago building some megaliths, granted its just been underwater so long now, and its like tryina explain the Entire story of Greece from looking at a single Doric Greek column. We have to use our imagination and see what could be our options ∆ Like theres gonna be different sides explaining the stories all throughout time, And it may be the case some stories ~before Plato were those exaggeraters, where others were against those people by people who were raised to think of Atlantis as demoted (or jus non existent) By the time it gets to Plato, the stories about it being a great city survived, but it couldve just been like the Pyramids, that is like, these unknown megaliths that dont have any function (any *obvious function that would be immediately clicking) I mean just knowing that they were built is the first step to curiosity, And the details can be considered later as we think over it, and weight the options and such... Now im at the part (@40:00 round about) where im learning about the people of Tartessos, which yet again, this is adding a whole nother layer to the story. Very interesting stuff, if yous are into it.

part ii I tried looking for people who, i thought wouldve understood this instinctively (as it seems fairly obvious), cause like i thought this was just everyones assumed mind set, right? But apparently, not many people understood this, or atleast, they couldnt internalize it as such... (def., there is alot, alot, alot of ppl who havent even started on the first like, first literal stage?) As im not really saying anything different than what actualized dot org is, and its relationship to the self experience, the system, atleast from the very first point of Philosophically delving into the self. I guess thats the problem. I started looking for people, in a world where they wouldnt have already mastered self inquiry, so therefore the fundamentals around the keyboard were also sortve an unknown~atleast on that plane/dimension i was in, which is a long story as to what im speaking to~but you can imagine.

~part i The more I got a chance to think about what im tryina capture, as well as what im tryina express through The Unix Philosophy Its not necessarily about "design patterns or programmatic architecture", or how to code things (though, on Linux that is important given the nature of Linux, and, atleast in its case, the ability to design things in a somewhat complimentary way...) Rather, its more like, the ability to gain *insight into a system (Linux, and the programs within it, ideally) and to understand those systems. If even its "just enough to use the system", which is what we are really targeting at first, right. Like its more subtractive in a way, and more about stripping it all down (more like a Philosophy or spiritual practice) Afterwards, it can then take on these analytical, additive elements, something i kindve think of as "applying even pressure". Applying even pressure around all facets of the program, or the kernel, or around the environment, etc., like you are then applying everything evenly, whether it be "researching" or "updating" or "maintaining" or "fixing an ongoing project..." i mean, there's any countless number of things that is implied by The Unix Philosophy, or the stages that come after the initial 1 Unix Stage (that somewhat encapsulates it... though there is more that i want to say... And those are just the bare basics) 1 Unix Stage 2 Unix Terminal/Shell 3 ... ^Like its something like that, is what im tryina say, atleast from my perspective. I mean, everyone is attacking it from different point, so you have to acclimate it somewhat from your own perspective, and try to get it to be more Unix-like, Unix in the Philosophical sense we described here (not the Old Unix-literally speaking, as I dont know whats in them old books/articles)

ya true. Hey, i figured out how to illustrate it. When you are jus startin out, its like you are jus learnin it, so its like buffalo bob or bill and the poodle scene. But then you get it up and running~which doesnt take long, and its then like this John Wick sequence (mind you, if you are into like audio nd stuff, im not sure its a good switch, cause theres no Ableton live... you gotta go in non ableton routes... which is fine, as theres lota interesting programs in the works) *p.s. iuno what linux would have to do w/ dogs, as im more of a cat person myself but i guess it has somethin to do w/ dogs, maybe the cunningness of a dog or sumthin

Im really great at marketing things to people, you know. "You ever seen that movie where Buffalo Bill/Bob has the girl down the well, and shes like, Mr. Im gonna kill your dog" the experience is exactly like that. You know? Get me on the marketing team.

O ya'. Linux will do that to yah. Its like the movie hostile (2005), when they say, "where is this art show..." The Girl is like "No, Have a drink first" And he says, "No. I don't want a drink. I wanna see some art." And then he goes there, and some random Chinese guy coming out of the show says, "You could spend all your money, in there..." You could spend All your free time in linux. And, May or may not be worth it tho ha.

Ya thats a good point.

O wow, African languages. I feel like I couldnt even get started on African languages, cause if i did it would be like black hawk down, like a stranger landing or entering into a stranger land ~type've thing. Im assuming theres lots of languages, the congo and tribals underneath, to the west/somalia, to south africa, to the east morocco and such, to the north, libya/algeria... I think theres weird islands too, like in that Gulf of Aden / Arabian Sea area maybe it was~where you had an island with places named by some explorer from the Netherlands or something. Something weird like that that seemed out-of-place. Im just putting the pieces together now, cause your name is Japanese sounding. I see it. I guess its hard to tell by names what someone is, or learned growing up, cause everything is like, part of our fantasy character~or atleast, playing into one of the characters that we want to illustrate. There's this one Japanese-script extension called kara katakana that i like. It jus extends the glyphs/sounds (i think for the purpose of communicating with Koreans, or vice versa... something like that) And its deceptively hard to find information about. Where i first seen it~that is, a subtle depiction of it, was in Dreamcastle™s thumbnails, and then i found it on omniglot https://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/karahiragana.php Ive not investigated japanese beyond that, as i was jus looking at writing systems.

Thats amazing you bring up Unix, I've been trying to get people to see it as The Unix Philosophy, in terms of what Linux's direction really sat upon, and what those paradigms are still really sitting on. And after @Joseph Maynor made that connection of the backend-to Linux, that is potentially a way to frame it. I mean, alot of the puzzle pieces are there, right, like I just so happen to have spent time looking at the terminal/shell, fonts, language, etc., neglected portions that no ones really gotten into as i have, but thats fine cause, these terms that yous may have mentioned bein funny, they are actually funny to me cause they are like, the direction im really trying to paint vividly on the walls~in order for it to be seen. Thinking of it as a Philosophy is really quite important as well, though its a Philosophy thats very frontal lobe... i mean, its not that hard tbh im makin it sound like tha, plus you hav me to lend your ear to in that regard (We have ChatGPT now, so alot of those conversations can be sortve, brainstormed w/ Ai first, to get started, or to get a sense of the questions you should be asking, or areas that yous are curious of... And i dont mean to elect yous specifically, i just mean "Anyone who is interested... or that wants to spend some weeks gettin in the weeds w/ some fairly crazy stuff")

Thats a nice way to put it. As i think i think of it like that, or atleast, the desktop experiences need some work, given they are fighting against the older paradigns, nd really just gotta go fully in one direction or the other, leaving the base Unix backend-ish to dwell on its own, and the more modern to go in what usually is questionable directions, but maybe they can work on it nd make it into something interesting, or just very solid and familiar... I mean, i have alot of ideas~granted its in the backend space, figuratively speaking. Iuno, i guess its a long story. ive not found anyone that i can lend an ear to, to really delve deep into it jus yet. Hey, dont get me started here, or ya know, or ill turn this into a very very long conversation thatll blow up the servers. or itll set a new record~for longist consecutive posts/characters sent in a session.

Im lookin for a real substantial scene from utube, but in the meanwhile