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(part 2) i wont belabor the point, however i will say that truth does extend into realistic places, because everyday is a progression (sometimes a regression) from a time where all of our ways of communicating had been aligned w/ diff ideas ~ that which did or didnt point towards either a relative or an absolute place, in such a way that everyone had agreed. And so we are the living proof of things that have progressed in the areas of describing the "meaning of truth": Truth as it would apply to the idea of "facts" and truth as it would apply to the idea of "to reveal", which is more like an action, or something you actively investigate (for others, or for yourself). And regardless, they are hard to explain in words but we continue to build on them, from a realistic place, from a philosophical place, from a magico-religious place and from a spiritual place, all simultaneously.
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Keep in mind, we are on the cutting edge of spirituality, and mystic, realish-things, so the language everyone uses here is prolly gonna be assuming a base level of something. But just to zoom back for a second, recall that yous got the term "non dual", the non dual beliefs are what i am presuming we consider actualized dot org, atleast to the everyday enthusiast. So you start there, the surface level of sortve contemplating on, or pointing towards, or suggesting something *non dual. So thats always the first way to frame or cloak everything, just at first, for now. Now from there, we are facing backwards, from the individualized self, pointing towards the non dual destination, where in you have this *observer whos observing, self (Ousia) .... And the other end, forward pointing, atleast through the physical eyes, the very literal understanding of "Anything beyond". Another way to frame it is to say that, the self is a "moment" itself, and everything outside is the extension of time ~ though that peers through a lens that has a "spectrum of" time, and doesnt speak to anything involving the self. The self is the important matter where we derive truth. So that sortve like, the long winded initialization into the aspect of truth as an absolute, but it requires some shuffling around, as its truth from a spiritual basis, alongside truth from the degree that can be communicated. *p.s. truth gets a bit involved, but just for now, truth could be said, is *a truth* intertwined with our ability to communicate truth, as it relates to things that are absolute~Ergo absolute truth is a pointer towards that idea, but we can think of absolute truth from different perspectives. I personally frame it from the point of the self, as it would pertain to anything else, so its both literally the self talking about truth, and its also what truth is, in the search for something absolute. That is, in our own world, we can call it total, but to others, if we express everything absolute as say "consciousness", its a synonym for "any word" which isnt quite how wed communicate with each other if to intertwine w/ the "meanings of truth". It all depends on what someone is asking in that case.
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I added a couple more authors/books, i forget what we have on there, specifically on the Muses. There's also alot out there in regards to looking at Greek drama (poets/poetry and plays), literature, myth, and im just tryina cover the general map that can encompass all the different points within this wide area. Bernard Abraham van Groningen, **Les Trois Muses de l'Hélicon**, specifically to get more into the topic of the Muses, for im not sure i had anything on that particular topic on there Moses I. Finley, **Myth, Memory and History** , memory, like that of the poets, seems important to know more about Walter Burkert (... See his works... im starting down his catalogue at the moment)
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(See Video Below) Philology for those who dont know, is the study of language as it exsts within historical sources, and how it intersects w/ textural and literary criticism, and which i title this -> because we are all effectively speaking to philology and language when we study history, for it is what we use to talk about such things, to say "This is what happened in history". And many of those sources are pulling from esoteric places, whether it be related to the mysteries of Egypt, or the Alchemical Latin coming from the Roman Empire / Medieval, or the Renaissance, and a connection to Cathedrals and Pyramids in terms of their resonance/harmonic qualities and such, etc., its all Medieval in some sense, and 90% philology~And as it would exist in what i call an esoteric, medieval world (but for the goals that might pertain to science, or language, or something else). Im watching this video at the moment, which has nothing to do w/ language, directly (Medieval Hebrew, etc.) but its touching on these ideas that jump into Cultures like that of Egypt, The Templars, Those of the Americas, Tribes and such... And then towards ~1:20:00, he's briefly touching on his thoughts & opinions of Shakespeare & his work, And how Shakespeare could not have written those Tragedies, Comedies attributed to him ~ Alas, Ive heard this from several different people before, and he brings up an interesting point, that which i thought yous might find interesting, and to get your opinion on ~ For I dont really know enough around Shakespeare (beyond his material) of the 16th CE ~ As ive looked predominately at 14th and briefly at ~19th/20th CE So it sits at a point that im not as focused on, and that i havent looked at, though it has alot of these mysteries, which could be related to the works of Shakespeare given those clues people are picking up on, stuff that the public did not know. Perhaps its connected to mystery cult knowledge, or something related to these Pre-Templars seeing as the Templar/Masons, atleast according to history, starts in ~10th CE, well after the Classical Period and such, Though the Templars themselves couldve been based on something that we dont know, regardless, they are very much apart of alot of these esoteric things (note, he speaks on alot more than Shakespeare & Templars in the video, but i just found that part curious, for ive heard something similar from people)
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Oooo. Ya, I have heard ppl say and compare dmt to very high amounts of both of lsd or shrooms, so you answered another ques., i had in back of my mind. And both of your reports are helpin me make the connection now... The imagery of the oroboros, and sucking into yourself, that helps me see that, its a bit like... well... i guess im gonna have to take a day or two to imagine what comes after normal lsd/shrooms, and how it might enter into like, an hallucinatory or rather, dissociative type thing, where theres just like that thing if you press against the back of your eyes, like the *lightheaded, sortve *falling into... stop me if im waaay off at any point... Im gonna assume something, but stop me if im waay off... in the same way we cannot quite compare salvia to being drunk~having the spins, perhaps we cant quite compare lsd to dmt and such, for the simple reason that the initial rocket ship into the exp., is like being correctly propelled into the place, as opposed to drinking too much, where its like incorrect amount of drinking - type feeling. Maybe thats not right at all, to draw that analogy between the two, but i make that analogy to try to get closer, through words, towards what dmt might be like... i feel like im prollyway off... i jus gotta try dmt nd then all tell yas if i was just completely off or not, as i also suspect theres something incomperable there, something i cant see, for i have the basis of dreams, arbitrary, fuzzy dreams (albeit, they always teach me something untenable through a non-dream lessons lens), Salvia thats like, gently brushing the claustrum w/ an emerald linen cloth or something, And i have taken lsd and shrooms, but it was very straightforward, as far as its connection to base experience, and its very long build up to get to the experience. Iuno wat im even sayin. i suck. im havin trouble concentratin cause this birthday party goin on around me atm.
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Can yous give me some illustration of what DMT's textures are sortve like, like some visual analogy to help my mind make the connection to what people are always touching on w/ the notion of it being like a world you Enter into ~ Like isnt there a reocurring quality there that can be illustrated in terms of texture or feeling... Like for example, on LsD theres like this fuzziness, like hairyness that becomes prominent, so id start out by talking about hair ~Like sortve what you see in the Rugrats if everyone remembers the rugrats cartoon show... Theres like, little hairs that make up the visual aesthetic of the rugrats drawings. Is there anything like that, visual or textural that can be seen or communicated? Is it smooth or fuzzy or anything like that, or does it keep changing, even at the scale of the textures presented.. Also, does it "feel" smooth~smooth as in a *smooth surface, or is there rigidity, like right angles? And are those right angles three dimensional?
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I personally often use a single apostrophe, instead of the opening and closing, e.g. Im workin on a compendium called 'Socratic education ^^^^ i.e. like in the start of word and title, like that) Its more or less what Greeks used in aspiration and accent related contexts, and the word itself~apostrophe in Greek is the turning away, from the roots apo ("away") and strophe ("a turning") as a rhetorical device where speaker (orator, or actor, etc.) turns away from the audience to address an absent / abstract or inanimate pers., object or idea. I mean the Apostrophe, or **apo**, **strophe** is really the link to understand Ancient Greek, which is why its like its not fittin in the very quick vernacular or slang realm.
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kavaris replied to kavaris's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I feel like i should atleast say one more thing to drive the point home here, for we are likely going to read this, unsure of where to turn or how to respond. Look, the interface we call reality is itself part of the machine, so in unwinding the interface, we are immediately faced w/ a paradox, for you dont just get things solved. Like there is no finalizing reality, however one could experience it, as a "form of", as the means to communicate through speech, as the means of transcending boredom, or reaching higher ground, or visiting a lost civilization and swimming under the temples there. Cause everything we are thinking/doing is (to be) an instance of that reality that we think is the immutable, irifutable reality. We are the textures of the thing that sits *Underneath of real reality -
Im watching the following, lookin at the term "invers., of truth", And it got me thinking, you know, We are quite literally a machine of texture, experiencing two ends of a textural spectrum, rough on one end, smooth on the other, And we are confounded by that system, such that we feel it means its filled w/ 5 senses, including these thoughts, feelings & emotions And of course, to those of you reading, who have to shift gears to try to decipher this, that might not feel or sound or seem enjoyable at first. Some of yous might even feel like "Fk this, i wanna ride the rollercoaster" but ya gotta understand that this thing we're all in is more than illusion, like... We arent just "solving reality.. Done", finished. We are solving literal "ETERNITY Neverending". Like... THIS is the fkd up part, not the boredom part, like... The part that should be rattling your head is how long you are gonna be in this for, which is forever, like... It literally is the simplest thing, life that is... Its a very simple thing, being experienced on a scale that is an ever-present and incredibly vast and complex thing, like the things we are calling parts of~Or events or moments of reality, they arent like... like those arent *instances of reality. Those are shared beliefs you have for what you *THINK reality is, and thats precisely how it works. Really its just textures, but you dont just draw the line there, for you are solving something that takes you places now, like theres a very clear objective, which could only be described as Actualized... dot org Org in the orgia sense, ὄργια, its like the sacred rites to the soul, the spirit of the individual understanding their own life and reality, and the continued unwinding of exp., for you are lost in your own machine, winding it up simultaneously, as that path itself, on what it perceives to be a path of differences, and samenesses.
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Forgive me, as i decided not to answer the ques., as i didnt know anything about it. However i wrote what i consider much more insightful and informative piece in regards to Salvia, as it'll resonate hard w/ anyone whos done Saliva How Salvia Feels (I) and should have been described (i mean, its been like 20 years so weve been thinkin of it for a long time now) I often think of Salvia w/ fond memories, even though i dont know of anyone who tried it w/ such fondness, but what I really liked is, that it was atleast a moment to zoom in, and reiterate on the textures and the music of the textures, like that left/right~leaning~ super drunkenness, that we would come to be very familiar w/, probably whilst taking for granted our abilities in that moment ~ That is, if we take Salvia and compare it to a stage of drunkenness w/ the spins, the spirits or the dragons spinning you/me, that wouldve been what we called it prolly~20 years ago. And that is surely one way to describe it, though its more than that, cause you also are zooming into the *flavor of the moment, of Salvia, this emerald green textural thing... That is, unless you hadnt done it in the right atmosphere... With the right music playing... The right colors. If you didnt do those tings, then you prolly dont share the same fondness (which is perfectly fine, for everyone is different) Like its more akin to a sea of green, the boundary between our lives~right before it becomes pure textural in some like, divine, abstract closet of the world ~like, its a place where music becomes something directly felt; Or rather, "feeling" itself is experienced on Salvia. What we are saying is "directly felt" is really something experienced i mean to say. Albeit it is an experience that takes you to a base, like inside of the almond-shaped gland somewhere, where it strips you of breathing acknowledgement, heartbeat acknowledgments, perception itself, and just leaves you with rhythm itself The rhythm. Anything else is just in the way, atleast on Salvia. For, you are the heartbeat, and the walls that fall each time you bump into them, or the thread that accepts you as thread, or somethin' like... I found this Greek phrase: τις στιγμῆς αἰσθάνεται "one becomes aware of a moment" ~ And thats exactly what i want to say... You are made aware of~ in the sense that you are pulled into the moment. So if the last image you looked at was a picture of an island, you dont just go to the island, you become the picture, you become your wall, and that wall and that picture are in your trip. So you have to be consciously looking at something favorable and somewhat pleasing, before falling into Salvia, for you are to then *Carry with you, that feeling for 5 minutes. And maybe its just the after effects, or our ability to *describe Saliva divinorum that makes it sound pleasing, that gives it some validity, but i just feel like theres something to it, theres something there, much in how theres certain kinds of Oolong teas that share that same sortve thing, this like, taste that really iterates on the same flavor profile. It's a flavor that isnt doing more than it should, like... It's something or someone (a spirit) that is autistic, whilst also being incredible good at explaining its own experience. .... At the same time, it feels horrific so im not even sure what im talking about... but maybe, just maybe if i try it again in the future, ill be like (well you know what, i actually enjoy that feeling now). You never know.
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Ive not personally, as i would be curious of what the effects are with psychedelics, and how they are working in the world at large (how the mind experiences reality, and not, how the mind works in a literal sense), which requires insights into what actually goes into a trip 'an experience that has alot of moving pictures and pieces, a rush of things that, when analyzed loses track of the meaning, the content and such, the emotional cues so to speak ~an emotional relationship or state w/ the world~ a city and state of new thoughts, feelings, emotions and ideas that are passing you in the moment, colors and textures and things that can be richly enjoyed, otherwise missed if to dilute the whole process into a scientific study. With that said, i cannot speak to 5ht1a or anything that would be assoc. w/... As there are quite alot of receptors (alot of which are working together harmoniously somehow). An analogy might be to compare it to Ai ~ Today alot of people think theres someways they can steer Ai, but thats not really how Ai works. You cannot really steer things that are infinitesimal by nature, w/ decimal points through the roof. It cant be understood, and it cant be shaped into anything from the standpoint of someone w/ the intention of bringing it into some form of alignment w/ an idea they have~from the naivety to prove something or make it better. As it is~what it is~ You can ask it questions and get answers. You can get goofy ass images (or frames of moving images, same thing). The same applies to the brain, however reality/experience is itself apart of that recipe too. So im not pushing you away from science but i just want you to see that the first step, in the very least, is to notice how the recipe is larger than the ingredient, and, in that ingredient, it is already so incredibly infinitesimal that its sortve counter to what anyone might want to research anyway. Ideally we all would want peace and harmony on earth as a destination, atleast to some degree, where we all feel weve done something that may play into a peaceful resolution, or the least-worst solutions. Many things in your life are gonna be least-worst decisions & solutions. So its something you have to get to thinking about early on... Just something to think about.
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hey maybe yous caught this one. I just seen this whilst going through the catelog of videos on Hamilton morris's channel, and theres an ibogaine one from a year ago, and i jus started watchin it, but its sortve funny in the sense that its mentioned someone opposed to Ibogaine in the US, nd here we are, and Ibogaine is atleast being considered / in the pipeline, presumably (i dont know if that means its made legal, or if its like a treatment, and what the treatment would even be.... I mean hopefully its just gonna make things legal, like im not tryina be up in any more hospitals ~any more than i already am, ya know... what are we gonna spend 16 hours a day gettin treatmemts our whole lives, it doesnt make sense. but The first 20 minutes were putting me to sleep, so yous may have to skip ahead 20 minutes or so to get to the bottomline
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Now im more so looking for specific instruments (which could also mean, finding the right free VST online), cause back in the 90s, right before Korg went to that digital keyboard w/ linux as its OS ~ which i never tried but it looked awesome ~ there were these unique sounds on the older models i wanted to spend more time w/, as i tried remaking those sounds but it didnt come out right. So im still looking for either the right instru., physical or digital, to find those sounds.
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Audacity was, and still is underrated. I made so many unique sound clips w/ one of the specific older vers., that had some of the more unique effects i wanted at the time... granted, i always started out w/ some semblance of an audio recording or partial, but like, i would get lost in stretching clips, slicing them and doing things w those sliced up sounds to either overlay it w/ another slice, or use it as like, the *noise element to some music/audio track. Its also faster for doin audio things w/, where as Ableton was slightly too verbose if what ya wanted was just to edit a soundwave or master a single audio track.
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I dont perceive behavior for animals as crazy, so much as i perceive others who perceive it as crazy, but to me, like my cat for e.g., been talking to, and training her for 20 some odd years, almost 24 7, where all i do is circularly poin to, and communicate to her, cyclical exercises over and over non stop, and even w/ all of that she is still lost in her feral world, weighing 5 lbs., still attacking 100 lbs. pitbulls, getting mawled to death... recovers like nothing happened... day 2 or so, back at it again w/ her white vans. jus lives in a different world Obviously now, she doesnt attack things, she doesnt have the temptations dangled in front of her, though i do still keep her in a playful and ecstatic sense of, like how she use to be, but w/ less pitbulls, or atleast not a *pack of pitbulls... we already done the 'pibull challenge on tiktok... ""send your cat to an early grave -tiktok
