kavaris

Its even simpalerly understood (simpalerly, i havent slept) but it is more simplerly understood to realize physics as not having explained the suggested things, nor anything else its ever said to explain. Right now, you are getting the baseline to all of this, via internet of exceedingly costly and hard to communicate bounds that we assume is free and unlimited... All of those questions of limitation are answered in time for yourself. Granted, some ppl do go there entire lives ~fixated on the whole m aterial world, encapsulated w/ how mathematically precise it is... I mean Does the universe have a limit, does it have a beginning? Do you know like, what *cosmos* is? what universe means?... like is that something you can point to in the direct experience? Theres several steps that lead you back to the beginning, but youd really need a large jump to make it over the bridge, someone like Leo or possibly Joseph or one of those who are specializing in said large leaps over bridges... Im sure someone out there is working on a program like that, for them kinds of purposes.

"Life is but a dream" - pennsylvania folk tune, (p.s. dont google it as something related to buddhism came up on first hit) I.e., prolly one of the closest we can come, adding "Its that, its not that, and its also Self, as well as Now" (which, im not even sure its right to rifle everything off like that, like something feels lost in it?), but i mean... I can see a world where ppl are just doing mimickry, tryina sound like, like we are now, but to a degree that is itself a revelation towards the *distancing*... Iuno its like, we could just reiterate that its consciousness in the most truthful / untruthful circumstances, but its like, we find ourselves in that dream predicament... Like we are tryina find something truthful when truth isnt the priority towards truth... Certainly truth makes us feel like everythings *alright*, Alas the disintegration of reason, meaning and truth is a whole nother kind of experience, for redefining truth and the vaguery that has been our experience of things, like it. Lol, see now im doin a weird thing. The End, before it gets weird. Unless yous wanted more of that.

@BuffaloBill well you have god as like, "im god, because the cells in my body are like, pieces that equate to the god that they become, if they survive" versus "god as reality" ... Like the thing we are calling god, is itself something that has to become the ultimate conscious thing, so i believe consciousness does that job, prior to god or anything resembling god, gods or "its all pieces made up of", though it is all one thing that gets conflated w/ words like that. The penetration of god, and the inception of god ~ im inclined to call acts of consciousness, understanding itself, god as a noun, consciousness as the very act and inception that gives rise to all things, through itself, and into itself... Its more energetic in that way. Iuno if you inherit that same energy w/ just god. You just sorta get the "do you believe in god" questions and answers, through that pipeline.

I had a thought at the tail end of my dream recently that, i believe went along the lines of something like this, but it didnt involve god... rather it was something like "the ultimate dualism" Maybe you can try to find it, as the ultimate dualism, very much relevant, atleast in the sense that youd want to point towards the non dual... atm tho, i cnt remember wat it was... And youd have to contend w/ this idea of god as well.

What do yous mean by "feelings allow us to do so"? Like every inception of a thing is predicated on something that felt it?

The universe is not like a beginning, middle end universe. However, in the parts that we do feel we are *made in the image of our felt world*, that match our reflected ideals... i wanted to add that.... none of us *plan out* steps towards a destination. Not concretely. That is, things have always been like a vaguery-of-happenings, which i guess might mean something, like i mean, there have been moments where many steps were planned out, but the point being like, if you imagine what it would be like to have everyone understanding this vaguery of happenings, that we are just feeling our way forward, thatd be a different kind of communication, cause it would no longer work to try and construct the vaguery of happenings. Like its two worlds, at odds w/ each other -> the felt world and that one thats trying to rewrite the data on the felt experience (but thats like tryina put two different kinds of memory into your computer from 19 years ago or something; incompatible, right?) I had a dream very recently that it was the end of the world, for some reason, but rather than get hung up on it, a traced back the original inception of that dream, which started in another dream... point being, theres alot of directions that one could investigate, to start to understand this vaguery of happenings, but the physical world is a pretty low consciousness place to be looking. I mean, its difficult to *get beyond* the self, if we did nothing but analyze the physical self and how its experienced the world. In that way, its not even right to be talking bout the physical world as if it is true/real to mean like, some definitive way of experiencing. Especially considering the *idealized parts* of experience, and how they exist as a vaguery of experience. I mean, even the idealized parts, you have to ask where you are getting the idea for them? I mean, its very very felt. *You feel like*, and then you *act*... You feel that its a certain way, that you try to do something to interact w/ it.

I was tryina figure out this part about the mythic with no name, what did that mean? "That in their history, their common people have been cheated by someone who believen this; bring some mythical person with no name"

Maturity can only take someone so far ... the fire inside comes from libido and immaturish places... You might phrase it more like "immiturity has to be guided, so that its not pure chaos, pure libido" or something. Splitten hairs. Doesnt matter... Call it "wise" call it saggi, call it maturation, it can also encapsulate that fact.

Things can, and are, both things, both directions. If you told me you experience a certain hallucination, youd have an experience thats true for you, but also not true if youve defined trueness as a sharable experience ~ that dicotomy where things can be both true and false, is something that happens here as well. The only thing is that god isnt just the contrast, but the whole thing, experienced as differences in itself.

People think we are in a spiritual fight, but like... If reality is not grounded in any substrate, and if reality is the substrate (im using Leos phrasing, cause i like it) Then that spiritual fight is a lot more different than yous think... its like... Like first you have to ask "What even am i" cause reality is predicated on that, first and foremost. The "others" part ofthat depends on what you mean by other... Technically your body is *other, too.

In the center is the self perception, and the whole thing is god, encapsulating that world that normal perception is sortve skipping over, i mean its all inside perception, which includes things, but also excludes them... Everything thats logically possible doesnt imply it even matters or that it exists. Like, ignorance is such that it can consider everything around it as a fantasy, or something exaggerated, but it doesnt say whether it exists one way or the other. Anything that exists is anything you describe as having existed, at one time, regardless of time. But that doesnt mean that you move through time willy nilly, its all perception; What it means to perceive.

P.s. i should add, that when i say "it started w an interesting question", thats not like some alternate art group and me conversating away, thats jus me inventing a world of lies, and then simulating it and tryina pick it apart, such that it fits as like a circle of logic that makes sense... So if theres holes that you wanna poke inside of it for fun, go ahead, as like... its not a real experience, its a fantasy for philoso-fizing and for really crunching the circles so you can feel it out, to see it as being true or not ~ Which is always got degrees of, to weigh on the scale.

Yas got me thinkin bout something thats called like "the common point of realization" like ... It started with an interesting sorta ques., for example: for those people that worship a teacher or god or anyone for that matter, suppose you are dating somebody and they too worship the same entity or person, and then suppose you were to do something, but one of yous blamed god... is that a legal move in that relationship? E.g., "something happened, i dont know how, but nevertheless, it was gods doing"? Cause i was wondering like, can you not just blame things on the highest deity, or on the flipside, if you are the person responsible for everything, then now, anything that goes wrong is something of your own doing. Like, no matter what... you are always tryina not have it go wrong for ya... but how can someone know whats considered right if they never had things go wrong? Yous know what im tryina say? Like "Im scared things will go wrong", for instance. But wait... If i dont know whats considered right, then i dont know whats considered wrong either, except for a few degrees around my little circle... And i might not know what anything even is in life, like at all... and anything that i do know is more like, "the common point of realization". Does that make sense?

Just in the small amount of threads ive been in, Ive not seen/heard frequency and vibration in awhile, but granted that its prolly popping up here nd there, just not as highly sought after as an idea? I mean, i think Its still very much apart of everything as far as interests are concerned, i believe, like where you put it in the toy box, and then you re visit it later. It might take some time but itll be needed again later, As you get tired of physical toys and such, but words, experience, insights & feelings are always there, regardless if you feel happy or sad, young or old, so one day someones gonna be like for instance: "Yeo, i had an experience, and it was all about harmonics and the way the frequency map is shaped w/ regards to the evenly distributed harmonics on the top layer, and the more dissonant tones being lower in amplitude at the bottom distribution map, such that it looks like, e.g., my reality and the way my experience is to ultimately shape things" or something. I mean, im sayin it now, so maybe itll catch fire.

Oh yes. o it prolly was alot like that. Dwarves of Drakken Kaeve.. or kai ev... is wat i wrote down in my notes, and the ring giver and receiver, and that i had been emotionally aided for the continued adventuring