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And if any of yas like murder, death and assassination, this is a good time to mention, this is literally the age of murder, death and assassination ~ As anyone following the Apostles are being murdered, and likewise, anyone who wasnt Christian was ALSO being assassinated/murdered, at the exact same time. Literally, the age before Constantine I is called "The Age of Martyrs"; See also "Christian apologetics" But the point to what I was tryina say is like, the history you dont normally learn about is the typeve assassins creed going on here, and just like, how many people are dying and dead because of it ~ The Age of Martys is also the age of Assassins Creed (NOTE: Assassins Creed I ive never played, but im pretty sure they didnt base it on this time period, but rather, a later time period heavily influenced on such things. I played the second one, like too long ago to even remember anything besides the Tuscany hills in the background)
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Another important dialogue for getting started on Philosophy and The Sophists is The Phaedrus ~ as Plato tries to re-frame "the area/study of rhetoric" (which is the most common area of study for sophists and students and thinkers alike at that time) but its to rebuild it on philosophical foundations. Im startin to write my own thing on Philo/Myth, suffice to say now that, this video gives a fair introduction as well, as although its on Norse Mythology, the beginning captures the idea quite well, and how the tradition of myth had been lost... And consider the following, though it must be revised, as it is my attempt at a direct and formal foreword on Mythology, Philosophy, to demonstrate where one can start to describe Why you also need Mythology when we talk about Philosophy, or anything else... One should note, how everyone who holds or pursues a notion of "truth" differs in their notion of truth. And this is to say then that Mythology is sometimes at a more fundamental level than "truth", whereby the intention of the Philosopher should not be geared towards truth in all cases, and sometimes the discussion of "tradition" and other subjects with regards to Mythology is sometimes at a lower and more noteworthy level in the context of descanting. And consider that the distillation of truth is one road, and the "istemi" that points to something undefinable is just that; That which is undefinable, ergo "Mythology" is one's attempt to describe the undefinable. But this is not to say, once again, that the -istemi of a subject and the "truth" of the matter dont coincide at some point or to some degree, its just that we often find ourselves making distinctions and descriptions, where we are left with multiple roads~All of which would require "names for a road" to know what street you are on, or what street you are not on (hopefully yous would agree)
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The Republic is another one that ppl get mixed up w/ Timaeus And Critias and it is like ppl want to make The Republic the index/legend to interpreting Plato's dialogues. And yes, it would be a good idea for ppl to read The Republic too, just to see how many elements are shoved into Plato's other dialogues, but dont then get them tangled together. Lol, they are already unnecessarily tangled together for no reason. Let me phrase it like this: Is there even one single pers., who we know, who has a reasonable following who is saying "Plato's Atlantis is in Spain" If that is the case, if no one out there wants to try to follow step 1, then why does everyone worship Plato (hence Platonism, et caetera)? Surely someone who is revered and made into their own icon shouldnt be so venerated. Like, wouldnt the situation be flipped? That is, where we all decide that we dislike Plato for being wrong about everything? Do yous see what i mean? Like, this is a rhetorical ques., but do people celebrate Plato for fibbing and handing out fake facts to ppl? Or do they just like him for like, a single passage? What im tryina say is, the current stigma around Plato is like its own sea of confusion, its own non-sensical Atlantica
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When was the last time yas did an Atlantis thread. I think it'd be an approp., time of this year to look at Atlantis, as i was thinkin bout how many ppl (just in general, by default) default to the America, Spanish, and Spain (Espanol or Castellano) And how that whole story would be awesomer if having explored and unvealed the missing piece that is the Atlantis story or what i say is just quite literally the Spanish coast, which is also just Native Europea. And, as Spain has these sorts've maritime nooks you might call them~not to mention theres massive underwater megaliths below the sea right near the straits of Gibraltar (or rather, its in a place just on the far side... basically, exactly where Plato said it is...) Several areas in Spain and France~in nd around, are like this... somehow its still not widely unknown?... no idea how... That is to say, iuno why everyone thinks Plato said ("Miles, miles, miles into the Atlantic") But nevertheless, the "Americas" is itself an important aspect. Why is the Americas important? Because the story of how the native americas got there is important, and one such culture talks about "the wooden people" (God, being angry, smashed the wooden people into the ground~that is the American earth...) Im paraphrasing it greatly. The point is, that is your blood, yall Spanish ppl, that which yous have no idea about. thts not to invalidate the landmass explored back when there was a bridge up north to Asialand (Northern Amer. natives?) im jus saying, there was a such thing as "Native Atlanteans" in Spain, before we got up in there with our spears and arrows, and kicked out all the males, and reproduced w/ the women. Back during the harmonious hunter gatherer era, it was like "serene and joyful". So thats also the bloodline (maturnal side) of some existing ppls like Etruscans maybe, etc... (later becomes Spain/France~which becomes Spanish/Espanol).... The point being, yall Spanish/America ppl should be investigating Atlantis, or rather, the Jöurneyman (see
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Btw, for those ppl that still think the richat structure has anything to do with what Plato said, realize this, Not only did Plato and most Greeks know about where and what Africa was, Plato literally references it in the Atlantis text itself. But before I explain what he says about it, know this: The Greeks didn't use the word "Africa" — that's a Latin/Roman term. The ancient Greek name for the landmass we now call Africa was Libya (Λιβύη / Libye), derived from a Berber root. It referred to the area of North Africa directly west of the Nile — encompassing what is now modern Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco. It was considered one of the three parts of the known world alongside Europe and Asia. Herodotus uses "Libya" to indicate the African continent broadly, while the lighter-skinned North Africans were called "Líbues," and those south of Egypt were known as "Aethiopians" And as i said, Africa (Libya) appears in Plato's Atlantis account. Plato describes Atlantis as a naval empire that had conquered most of Europe and Libya, before being defeated by Athens. More specifically, in Timaeus, it is said the Atlantean empire ruled "Libya up to the border with Egypt, and Europe up to Etruria". Translate the following: You gotta understand how many years in the past we are talking about, not to mention, how "Atlantis" was mentioned once again, after Plato, and w/ the same idea, as "Libya v. Atlantis/Spain", as its a conflict that goes back (and has lasted) for thousands and thousands and thousands of years. Plato described Atlantis as being larger than "Libya and Asia combined" (though i doubt he went around it w/ a ruler and measured it all, so dont be taking this too literally) located beyond the Pillars of Heracles (the Strait of Gibraltar). So Libya/Africa wasn't some vague unknown — Plato used it casually as a geographic benchmark so his audience would recognize just what he was saying. Plato wouldve said "Atlantis is in Libya", if that is what he meant. Plato wouldve said (Oceanus far & wide, sits some distant land, Atlantis). The Atlantic beyond Gibraltar was called "Oceanus". So if Plato was going to say ANYTHING about Amer. (as some also speculate about America being Atlantis), then he is going to say "Oceanus, far & wide...", or using the words Plato was likely to have said, and yous can read his stuff, as he is quite specific about what everything is, and he makes no mention of Libya = Atlantis, or Oceanus = Atlantis/Atlantic... Let me be even more specific. The Greek word Plato uses is πρό (pro) or the phrase πρὸ τοῦ στόματος — which literally means "before the mouth of" (the mouth being the strait). And "before" in Greek spatial language is ambiguous in the same way it is in English: It can mean in front of — i.e. on the near side, before you even pass through It can mean beyond — i.e. out past it, in the open Atlantic So depending on how you translate that prepositional phrase, Atlantis could be: "Beyond the Pillars" which is the traditional reading. This is how most people picture it, and frankly, it gets them way off course looking in the Atlantic (see where i said, they had a word specifically for that) Interpretation 2 — "Before/In Front of the Pillars" Atlantis is in the Mediterranean itself, or right at the mouth of the strait. This has led some researchers to propose locations like western Mediterranean, or the shallow Spartel Bank just outside Gibraltar; or a third option being near the coast of southern Spain or Morocco. The Spartel Bank is a submerged shallow bank in the Atlantic, sitting just outside the Strait of Gibraltar, off the northwest tip of Morocco. What Plato does mention is Gades, which is the ancient Phoenician/Greek name for modern Cadiz in southern Spain, right on the Atlantic coast just north of the strait. He references it as a geographic marker near Atlantis territory. What more could ppl want. What more could be said, its layed out very plainly, vwery straightforward and direct. And apparently, Plato is wrong (or according to many, many people, Plato is making things up) except, no one has even taken him on his actual word(s). How can anyone say Plato is wrong without validating whether or not the most obvious solution is wrong first. Like, surely that should be step one. Plato has never been wrong, and if anything, we are still trying to figure out just how accurate his writings are; We are starting from the perspective that "people are wrong" too premature. We should assume, especially in the case of Plato, that he was right, and that everyone is just getting the wrong info about what he said, as that is most definitely the case. p.s. And imagine, we are still thinking Plato was "making things up" to this day (by a large majority, mind you). How can we even begin looking at OTHER figures/or characters in Myth, or other Greek texts, et caetera, if we cant even get the facts straightened out w/ Plato, who is like the bedrock. *p.s.s. i have this crazy long thing that i wrote on Plato & Mythology ~which I have actually posted here before (the less-long vers.), to get everyone familiar and started in that direction, however its since grew gianormously~And considering how long this one was, i thought i should just wait awhile until the dust has settled and i can start to sortve introduce these writings in a more compact, and controlled/meaningful way.
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Another reason why myth and biblical study, etc., is so important is because, when you look at the parallels in everything, sometimes our first thought/initial inclinations brings us towards, "This name contains that figures name, so it must be that thats who it is...", except that, containment ≠ identity—which is to say, in mythology especially, you have layers of containment (this name contains that name, and that name is in the same context as this) And at first glance, it feels like theres alot of interrelated things going on, making it like an impossible web of relations. So basically, the first point to understand is how, containment doesnt automatically mean that thats what something is... The Hebrew Jeshua has Yahweh saves (us), it doesnt mean that~now that weve found Yahweh in his name, that Jeshua must be Yahweh. If that was the case then every single name in Hebrew and Greek Septuagint is talking about Yahweh, wherein characters are talking, but they are really talking to Yahweh AS Yahweh. You could just make a book that said "Yahweh spoke to hiself for 4,000 years, up to his birth, crucifiction, and resurrection", like... That is to make a point about the traps people fall into when learning about such things. Mythology even more so, it has some serious and hard to interpret layers, which by finding your own system or methods, can help in going bout said layers in an orderly & scholarly manner, that is fair to what we know thus far, what we can say for sure. Also, you want to specify what is speculation, cause technically ALL of it is speculation if you do a rough boildown, so finding a system to separate it all is important, but that goes back to what i said in regards to method. p.s., thats why its important to look into mythology, simply because, without truly understanding it and having deduced some \*method of interpretation, we are immediately faced w/ incomplete and scattered information in regards to whats going on, and then when we go to reference it, we are identifying all these stories in a jumble/heap of names+relations, and suddenly its like, none of it makes sense. Surely the act of speaking and writing the myths and verses, etc. was to make sense of something/someone (or something abstract that they had in mind around something they didnt understand theirselves), nd finding out why is itself important to do it justice.
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Id also like to present a map for how they got there, that is via these winds/Atlantic current that runs along the US East Coast and through the Bermuda Triangle region. Ships can be swept significantly off course by it, and thats how ppl end up in S. Amer sometimes. Does that slipstream change going back thousands and thousands of years back? I dont know but id think it wouldnt change THAT much, i mean, Earth is still Earth. Like its in the exact same configuration, give or take an island drowning or resurfacing via tectonic/volcanic~yadayada. The point is, its the same shit, nother day, but in history terms. And like, back when ppl were building small little rinky-dink boats to explore the Atlantic, they didnt know what they were doing. And if you are the first ppl to build ships, its like, HOW tf would you kno bout the gulf stream and sht like this, right? So that is the dilemma i pose, that is, to explore Atlantis. Explore Atlantica America. Like actually explore it. Dont take my word for it🗺️Go see it for yourselves. Everything that we are depends on it, so.. no pressure or anything. Go sailing. See if its more likely that theyd end up in Mezo America, or S America, Or wherever. See whats up with them megaliths in Spain. Please. Somehow its still like, fake news since no one knows about it. Unfake the news for us via curiosity. p.s. "Pre-Columbians" is a term they sometimes use, as thats a plausible idea i presented apparently (retrospectively, i dug around on it), which i thought was unknown, but its considered already by modern scholars. So okay, THAT part is considered, but the Atlantis part is still in the dark, even though it is just as~if not more important.
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@everyonehere italian kundalini~yall are missing out on.. this stuff, Alas yall can jus listen to it, as thats what i do do... And later on in the video theres an interview goin on. Now im just now learnin italian, so its goin to fast for my brain, by you guys are young people. Yous can pick up italian in like 24 hours. Also, this poor woman has like 0 views, yall are missing out on some italian kundalini!
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Yous havent touched on how Ai works. That is interesting part to the story that yous are doin' a waltz of sorts / all-around-the-mulberry-bush around and its interesting for many reasons. Alas yous can ask Ai yourselves, that is, "how the Ai is working" (be specific to the ChatGPT original models and such, not some futuristic b.s., as you are asking bout the well known variety, and you can ask any of them about it). Ai was created by humans afterall. And humans took these conceptual pieces and put them together to make something that does just what youd expect. If you look at that, that thing like "5% the letter /E/ is comin up... fold it... -1% the sequence "BB" is comin up... fold it.." like im just giving you an example, as im tryina point towards what would be the interesting part of it, though thats not to say that the whole thing doesnt have interesting parts. Theres hundreds of interrelated and equally interesting parts, like its a program afterall. Its interesting cause thats what we do, we look at things ~language~ and then we say "is so&so comin up?... yay or nay?... fold it... sequence/process it..." stuff like that p.s. the word i was thinkin of was "pericope", from Ancient Greek περικοπή, perikope, And it refers to the cutting-out of a section of text that you find worthy or coherent enough to be included within the final writing/text~That is, in regards to How to use Ai, or atleast how to think of it. Perikope or Pericope (sounds like periscope, which im not sure what a periscope is, but its similar to that *scope* used in submarines, and maybe that is a kind of periscope too) As far as what this like, parsing of language thing is called, i dont know, but you could call it "parsing of language", And thats interesting because it relate to our routines in life, and these mechanisms that we find ourselves doing~down to the most fundamental core of who we are... I mean, we take for granted how much of it involves "parsing out what we think we observed" -typeve things.
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I shouldve made this clearer, as I didnt really explain "Philosophy" and the Sophists. So i made an Album of sorts ~ a timeline ~ or way of listing things chronologically, as I also believe "Mythology" is an important part of this story, given how you have Plato, as well as every other Greek figure using a "mytholological language" - Plato often extending that language, like that of the language around the Eleusian mysteries (compare & contrast to, et caetera) Thats something for yous to think about, but anyway, here's the list im talking about, to better elucidate on Philosophy and The Sophists, Philosophy predating the Sophists, who overlap w/ Socrates, which then leads to Plato defining "Philosophy" (This list has embedded in it BOTH the timeline and the purpose/reason; p.s.You should just think of Theology as fundamentally just "Questions on Divinity" among what it begins to be referred to later on) Lasting aspirations in Philosophy: \*\* i. Philosophy for the interpretation of Theology/Mythology (starting w/ the natural philosophers ~6th century BCE) \*\* i. Philosophy as a word to describe the immersion into "istemi" AND/or "truth" (Socrates overlaps w/ the Sophists, though the Sophists are said to have come before Socrates, see next) \*\* i. Philosophia = "love of wisdom"; Sophists = "a wise man" or expert teacher~a different root from that of "sophia" in Philosophy → And the Sophists appearing ~5th century BCE) \*\* i. And lastly, we have Plato (taught by Socrates) making "Philosophy" an explicit, well understood idea, Philosophy as the ultimate reality, Philosophy as a Way of Life Last episodes in Mythology: \*\* i. Chronological "last myth": the Trojan War and its aftermath \*\* i. Genealogical "last age": the Heroic Age \*\* i. Historically "last myths": Philosophical and literary myths (Ovid) Note: This is not to exclude the investigations into Greek figures and the wide array of episodes and professions in Ancient Greece, Alas im just giving you the sortve, left half of the onion, wherein you can put it together with the right half on your own.
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(Speaking *on the Mahdi, or the vers., that would be like, some ideal Egyptian Mahdi) Its funny to think, but this is where i start, and where i can begin to understand things that start in politics, and worldviews outside of Europe/America and the broader world, as I feel like I dont understand anything until there a "common point of interest" or something. Like if there isnt a conceptual space that we all sortve naturally agree on, by decree of the fact that like, myth is where everyone can find the solace in having to interpret, and these sorts of things that we are all interested in, it gives everyone a common point of reference, or a place that is also agnostic~in the sense that anytime you have a closed-loop on history, you have no way to dispute its origin, beyond that its got an origin. Like theres no political down side or mistake when God creates the universe, unless we frame it all as a mistake, which is just weird backwards b.s. And in the same way, theres no down side when you have the old era of Egypt, and whoever or whatever was going on there, and how we would learn anything more than that (than what we know already), or like 'How do learn more about it? i do not know. So seeing as Egypt is sortve exempt by virtue of being first (by virtue of no recorded history before this era, or to say anything more than what the prevailing theories are during zep tepi~or atleast within our modern ways that are more or less interpreting metaphysical, non interpretable beginnings) You then have a point that has no contention before a certain point, and only the myth itself (the \*point of reference, for everyone). So to me that is what is the sortve subconscious wanderings around why its gotta be Egypt (for me atleast) that is, the common point of reference for sharing, as that is then what leads to \*what we even would call political or military or conflicts that would arise thereafter. Like we cant agree on "who deserves what", but we can agree on like "Well this was interesting", you know what i mean? Like we might find that the best way to debate in the end is from like, "Heres the agnostic point of history" if in such extreme cases we had to choose such a point. \*\*\*\* Im just giving the most "ideal"~of an extreme that might not even matter, but thats worth thinking about, given you are always gona have someone who doesnt agree with the era of history that youve chosen to exalt. And everything is becoming history (his story) as we encounter it.
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I was thinkin we should start a political -related, sortve recapitulation of some of these perspectives and points of view on Egypt. Granted, im certainly not gonna be saying too much, seeing as im not there personally, alongside the insurgencies, et caetera. So, i thought it might be good to get other points of view (or anyone who feels that they havent had their voices heard there) who might be opposed to the choices of say for example, this character Mahdi (he is who im listenin to atm, but again, if theres someone else i should be listening to, feel free to share). But the bottomline is, i just want to acknowledge that ive acknowledged it, Buut i dont want to say too much, or anything that i might not fully understand. As im sure others who are of Islam~and/or of the actual deep-ties to these sorts of families who actually come from the middle east~they may prefer to want to speak on it, and have their voices heard. Hey theres nothin wrong w/ speaking. I dont think governments care either, like... if they did, it would mean tracking millions of individuals, which is like, how do you do that practically speaking. Dont you need millions of people to intimately navigate millions of people. Hey if you flood the airwaves w/ millions of messages, then its like, the criteria to narrow down "whats what" is that much harder, thats how i think of it, like.. I just follow the words of Thoth, and Thoth tells me what to say, like...
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Literary Filters & Rephrasers~Preface Euphemism - a mild / indirect word or way to substitute or replace an idea thats considered too harsh when referring to something unpleasant, embarrassing, etc. This almost gets into like, strategies of writing or how to change something, like almost like "grammatical filters"~Which i thought was an interesting sentiment, like ways of writing that dont fit as either a genre of writing, nor a device in the moment, but rather a spectrum of filters or ways of rethinking or rephrasing what you are saying. In English theres so many ways to phrase things, and much like programming on the computer, you can get stuck if you dont understand how to rephrase / restructure something, like for instance, i want to say — "The mongoose had a cat riding around on its back, however it was upset by the experience" Maybe you could change the last part to say, "... however it wasnt thrilled by the exp", or "... however it wasnt enjoying itself" Or, if/when you feel its sounding a bit odd, we could just start from the beginning like, "The cat jumped on the mongoose, although the mongoose didnt enjoy that the cat was riding around on its back" Or we could say, "The mongoose wasnt enjoying itself, as it had a cat riding around on its back" or changing it up entirely, "An event happened between a cat and a mongoose...", then explain the event. Like its probably a bad example, but there are definitely instances where you are stumped, cause you have a thought in your head, but the way its phrased doesnt translate to writing in a fluent and natural sounding way, or it doesnt sound right. Sometimes ya have to run it through a grammatical filter~or its a matter of changing it around — as if you put it through a machine in your head, and rephrased it to see which one sounds better -typeve thing. Yous can think of a better name for the latter method.
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Yall are probably tired of the face job, Alas im not done w/ it, as im tryina guess — whos next, whether its from aging or botoxed, or they playin a joke, like whos the next to get the beestung face, or whatever~assoc. w/ their face. Now we cant add jered leto cause he doesnt age, and prolly already has botox and things like this keeping him young for the next 200 years. So the next might be Johny depp, tom cruise, though hes already at like max old & puffy, i think this is the case for leonardo and brad pit too, but i mean. Oh you kno... No, wait. We should try keeping it contained to those well known actors, right? This actually brings up an interesting dilemma, cause as im looking at the megalist of actors that I keep in my notes, im realizing theres: 1) lvl1, uber famous actors, then 2) It immediately goes to lvl 2-wherein im wondering how many ppl would know these actors, as the actors im thinking of only have 1 or 2 movies that theyre really known for. Maybe yous could thus list actors you think are well known nd such. *p.s. i realize the topic has changed, but it is cause i dont know what else to do without knowing more. Feel free to contribute to the first ques.
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Incarnatio~Into the flesh again, is basically what it all amounts to... ? Right, i mean you got your mind, your body, your spirit, the soul just being this... eternal, infinite, never dying, all perfect thing, or essence thats giving all things the experience of a real one (a real "-ity"), of something that moves, like liquid, or a snake; Ousia being the thing that the soul is emphasizing as such, And the Divine Light is also of the Semen in Latin, meaning seed, or a *spectrum of~that which we are all looking at, or alongside. It exists at our hearth, at the tomb/body. What do yous believe? Do you feel you come back as you, or maybe even its a reincarnation of *Another person INto you, or like a recapitulation of someone else, chosen from whilst in the Land of Reeds. I assume you heard of it and know what it mean. Even if you get devoured, you arent done. As a member of the soul, there is no choice. You can only ever press "continue". You cant say "nah im good" on it. The soul expresses it as is, defined as such. The details are a matter of freewill, though freewill is radically different. Freewill means anything can happen, seeing as anything is that which already happened. You dont do research into previous lives if you are infinity lives into a life by now, right? But back to the question, are you reincarnated, or are you someone else inside (maybe u feel you were meant to be) Like that could be a choice you have, if its something you want to have as a choice, but its not like you should worry too much. i mean, Hey, at the point of no return, you can go from seed to anything, like... The carnation flower is simultaneously the soul's incarnatio, i.e., DnA, water, minerals and dirt and such, upon coming into the world to breathe, or let others breathe~As a tree. I think flowers function like little trees in that way, you know what im talking about? Anyway, i was goin for a question/poem/whatever it is. An experimental question poem, which yous can interact w/
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kavaris replied to Never_give_up's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ehrr, you got a few easily identifiable mistakes in this writing here that we should smooth out together. "Stop thinking these thoughts" is easier said than done ~long story, but if you want, we can try workin together on it. Also, *(To avoid)Understanding reality is the assumption that theres a such thing as not understanding it. Like, first off, I dont think of things from the perspective that "Heres reality" and "Heres how i can understand it". Thats a fools errand. A fallacy (a big mistake as well). Heres what you should be doing. You ready? "Be specific". Like, you are not even identifying what you mean, by understanding reality, like... "understand reality" doesnt MEAN anything, you follow me? You have to ask a more specific question, first to yourself. Be specific. Why? Because the broadness you are associating w/ everything currently is precisely why you are locked behind trivial walls that you could otherwise get beyond at this current moment in life. Be specific, because that is how you start to unwind the whole thing (or those things making you see the world in this way). If anything, you should be more steadfast. Why? The whole goal is to not get snagged in the pits of dispair `or these holes that you can find yourself in — which stagger us all. If you werent stuck, you wouldnt have to take this broad spectrum of understanding, and associate it w/ a question (the spectrum of reality is itself a BROAD world/land~it would be impossible to task yourself with understanding it that broadly, for anyone, and it is certainly a process) Ideally you just go on solving the problem, whatever it may be. but like i said, youve phrased things so generally that itll be hard to work w (for us) unless you can be more specific on what you mean. Technically, me writing a message is a form of understanding reality. The other possibility, and i have to guess, is there is something making you FEEL like that is what you are doing, that which is also stuck in the pejorative. Maybe something in your life emphasized this? I dont know. You tell me. Whatever the case may be, just remember, Alls you can do is understand reality. And, framing it correctly is much simpler... You have to take everything you are doing and FLLIIIP IT around. Cause everything you are doing is ALREADY *Understanding reality (CRITically important that you get this! or write it on your wall, as its necessary for hitting lvl1). You dont have experience with Not understanding reality. If such a thing exists, its surely not something youd be familiar w/, though in words better said: it would simply mean you are "ignoring spiritual things" or things like this. Understanding reality *transcends spirituality, for it also counts towards everything. If you dont mean to speak on spirituality or if you mean something else by understanding reality, youd have to teach us: What do you mean (Better yet is to Teach yourself) *p.s. failing to understand the main point is a mistake, But it would only be a beginners mistake because theres Alot more mistakes to make thereafter. I guess theres a chance you dont even understand what im sayin now 🤔 anyway; afterwards its like, "how much priority" are you putting towards this call it "practice of identification/misidentification" and are you truley getting it, as Thats the big one that gets ppl screwed up, like... eh hard to explain. -
kavaris replied to Jowblob's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I lost all my money jus livin. So dont worry bout it, its happened to even the best of us. -
kavaris replied to kavaris's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For me, this is where rituals and things become important on the way up the stages of development, and why i make a bridge to hermeticism ~ as i often am faced w/ almost a dream-like dilemma, in regards to life, and the answer is often right there, and weirdly, dreams are sometimes better at finding a very hidden answer / conclusion, to alot of these ques., and things (which is more on the mental / spiritual side of things for instance) or like you could call it *the egyptian book of balancing all things, i guess thats the safest description. Poetry and writing is great too, but dreams are more like *mistakes that i throw myself into, not to mention, in dream i am often just flat out LOST. Like, its hard to reconcile being lost, but i am lost like 90% of the time (spiritually and symbolically, while in a dream) -
Early today i had been watching that guy, The Mahdi Appeared-Guy, and he is getting pretty well known now. Which is even a long story how i found him, though it was sortve tangent to these other things yous had mentioned on here before, like Sufism and such. And it also brought up this interesting question in my mind around "Who gets to be king?" And Of Course, while looking through the list of Greek figures, i found something interesting (to say the least) and very much relevant to that whole idea/notion, and i thought to myself "Oh, this might be interesting to bring up", in regards to the choice/who chooses for someone else to be king (who assigns theirselves king if such an opportunity had to arise). That is, theres something called The Assembly of the Birds (Mantiq al-Tayr) by Farid al-Din Attar (c. 1145–1221 CE), a Persian Sufi poet. Do yous know about this yet??? It is a spiritual, allegorical epic poem, wherein the birds of the world gather in concentration to choose a king (guided by the hoopoe), and it represents the journey ~ through the spirit/soul ~ towards God. At the end of the journey, after crossing seven valleys (stages of spiritual development), the birds find that the Simurgh, the mythical bird they sought, reflects themselves — mirroring the journey of the soul in the search for God / Ultimate truth. The name "Simurgh" itself can be interpreted as "thirty birds" (si-murgh in Persian), symbolizing the unity of the seeker w/ the divine. So the Simurgh, this mythical bird/symbol, represents divine truth; And each bird symbolizes a human flaw or virtue, where as, the journey itself mirrors the stages of spiritual awakening... ~ Which i found interesting cause i know yous have that notion of a "spiritual development / stages" on Actualized dot org. So i thought, thats an interesting sortve parallel going on here, of which i should bring up to yous to see what yous think (Yous might even know about already). It just seems very relatable if anything else. *p.s. i looked up the book, and they have an English translation called The Language of the Birds, however, the original i do not know if it even survives now or wat* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AMantiq_al-Tayr%2C_The_Language_of_the_Birds%2C_Farid_al-Din_Attar.jpg
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Ai Use -> I had a great word for it / to help better understand it (Greek word, ill find it later) Ability -> Oh Yeah, i mean it gives us an incredible ability we never had, and the way it does it is really neat (i mightve talked bout it before) David Bowie said it best, that computer / internet / et caetera is an Alien lifeform, and we are like the primitives wandering into the Aliens that now live among us, just in terms of like, how our once grounded spiritual life has been occupied / augmented, or like the immense power it can bring w/ all this instantaneous satisfaction, etc, etc. I mean, the list goes on, but there are downsides to it too, no doubt. But just to linger on what purposes it does serve, what good can come out of it, i think that is more wat u are speaking to here. Its also not being understood FROM a grounded perspective. Like they keep adding to these things, surpassing the base component system in more awkward ways than none at all, like... Higher ups are saying "Add this, add that", and thats not really how design should work, like thats a bad system. of course, thats not Ai or the computers fault, thats us, serving our master, 9-5 corp., just like, misunderstanding everything thats fundamental. p.s. wat you do end up learning about is "the system". Ai will quickly teach you that, "the system is flawed" and that we have to investigate it, otherwise we will have a class / system adding to this like, *making money off of pure sensationizing, and trickery versus those of us trying to establish a way of life that makes sense. Actualized has alot of potential to bridge those two worlds. Everything has potential to be a force for good in the exonerating our tendencies towards the bad side (unproductive), by filling it w/ the good!
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Hey. i have to. If i didnt i would be in trouble more than i already am. It would no doubt drive anyone nuts... And im approaching 40 years old now, so its like, the level of patiency of mine has been worn quite thin, from the seemingly repetitive state of affairs/situations. Like, im even thinking of writing literally hundreds of notes, and waking up, w/ one idea in mind for her, in order to get both her life + our shared exp., together, on the right track — And that is by writing a note (hundreds of them) that say one/two things, purposefully capitalized, like the following: "MAKE A LIST... ORGANIZE YOUR LIST... MAKE A LIST... ORGANIZE YOUR LIST..."(repeat) .. to get her mind thinkin in the right ways atleast. Granted she does make lists, but its sortve a way to initialize ALL the things i want to say, without saying them explicitly and making things tooo confusing/aggressive-sounding.
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So i had this very inflammed situatio w/ my mom that ended w/ her making an unusual, almost random statement, and then she layed down (to bed), in the midst of the anxiety and very fueled and active situation goin on in her head (or atleast that what she seemed to be portraying) And i was also getting very fueled (long story) Ive since spent....oh, say 6 or 7 hours w/ Claude and GPT trying to help me phrase/workout/emotionally resolve the dilemma~which is itself too long of a story, suffice to say that im trying my best here to find the right things to say (once she wakes up — granted, she could even wake up not caring, remembering, or even speaking on anything that had worried her not 1 day before/earlier, as shes a compulsive talker, and will talk-non-stop, about anything thats popped into her head) And so after this many hours, we landed on something that sounds like the "Cope" (if u know what i mean by that): Like, "... Its normal for two people in a high stress situation to react that way, especially when you are acting all nervous, and anxiety ridden, as humans naturally take our minds to the worst outcomes imagineable"-typeve thing. That's sortve the *Cope. Again, its a long story Why its the cope. But then, i also thought of~something more along the lines of a *Truthful statement, which is a bit harder, and more like, shovving the poop in the dogs face (which obviously i must feel has possible warranting for such a statement/predicament if im even bringin it up): And it goes something like, "Look, you are trying to take the reigns/lead on everything, and i have been like, through all the shit, just letting it happen, when many times its like, you are tryina handle something you cannot handle, like... " (granted, i would make it gentler like, "let me take some of those reigns", but heres where the truth comes in, as i still consider that part of the *Coping spectrum still) That would lead into teaching her like, this thing about "pouring" and how no one pours gasoline meticulously slow ( like we did, by accident ) As no one pours drinks or ANYTHING that slow and off kilter like we did, and because she wouldnt give me even a min to think wat was happening ~ mind you, she also sprung it on me as if it was an emergency, and then, not only did we spill the gasoline all over, she continued freaking out, transitioning to "Theres mold spores everywhere" (im bringing that up cause, im trying outline how like, her mind just goes to all these things at once, and how like, the line between her being very uplifting and happy, vs being highly upset and freakin out~that line is thin and seldom does anyone know the difference w/ her) So basically im asking like, assuming its even something she brings up to me wen awake, should i like.... Like... do i give her the cope, or the rope? that is, do i just sortve, settle the fire w a coping mechanism, or do i tell her wat i consider more of a truthful reality? Both options sortve feel meh, i realize that. Like, if u had to choose just one, wat would it be for yous you think? *Feel free to give me a better option. Like, i forgot to say: If you have somethin you feel can be better said, feel free to share it~Anything yous have. Like I didnt mean to suggest that it was only an "A or B" typeve thing here.* (Note, that marks the end, As i think this last part is me rambling, therefore, u dont even need read this last part) *p.s. (Dont take this as a negative, as i bring up the following 2parter~as more of like, "hey, anything can happen") That is~keep in mind, the *Rope option could accidentally inflame something i had better left uninflamed. Like thats sortve like, one of those things where we have room to decide, but like, talking bout it, so suddenly, so soon, without it healing, it could be worse, even if its more truthful like. Tho come to think of it, i have ongoing wounds apparently in relationships that the other party is perceiving as a constant reopening of, where even saying hi is considered an inflame somehow, so im jus tryina say like, that sortve emphasizes how the rules can be bent, by virtue of no rules happening (on some level... a level that surely no one fully understands...). like ive been resolving long term jawns that never resolve, so i guess thats the second part. The first part is just short term bs, that i guess dont matter, or if it does, i cant find the answer to it without like, iuno God... Like God help me is what that is, like.. Iuno how to explain it in a way that sounds authentic, though i think im bein too hard on myself here)*
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kavaris replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Part1 Theres a couple difficult things to juggle, one is like, the act of extending ourselves out towards people, as it is like its own mythology, meaning.. That is, (initially) when you are sortve "perpetuating the meditations and routines of the mind", where you are simultaneously losing touch w/ the whirlwinds of life; Like, of course, you will get better at it (everyone does) - You get stronger in regards to these two things. But at first, you dont quite have the familiarity with how to balance 'em. The other thing is in regards to \*braveness, as well as the Real Path that is in conjunction w/ ~ sortve like how planets or astronomical symbols exist in conjunction w/ one another. The moon is in conjunction w/ the Sun. The Sun is in conjunction w/... Whatever, Mars.. et caetera. Part2 The point is that all these things are in conjunction w/ one another. That is the soul. The soul is all things. The soul also allocates us enough experience/time, per the part of our spirit, ba/ka, to experience it all, though we often see the "heart" as being these things like morality, or some material good, or some component or emotion, or mental thing. However, the Heart is complex in itself. But just using as an analogy/symbol, it simply indicates the physical parts~that is, braveness is almost like a manifestation of "strength"~or vice versa (the strength of the body). So we see the Heart as being a physical part (the spirit *Through the soul, is what is being weighed~in the context of Egyptian myth), though im getting off track w/ this. The point is like, these things are sometimes \*slightly different, and it often comes down to making that very slightly twist, or turn in your understanding, that slight progression to make the necessary connections. And yes, we do need those people who understand such things in regards to mind, spirit and soul and such... THat is always important. Hey, right now, I NEED those people to help me through it all. I need to be guided back to the truth of myself, desperately. No doubt. Im not denying the significance of that. Part3 In fact, the most important part is that whole Ousia-Light sequence, and surely everyone would agree, if not now, eventually. The part i mean to emphasize is in the details, in the margins, the things that are overlooked because its Soooo tiny... Hey, that is why we have computers now. COmputers are helping us see these tiny details, to make these vry intricate connections that we mightve not seen otherwise. p.s. i may have numbered the parts incorrectly, since its more like a spectrum (as far as how i wrote it) but yous get the idea. p.s.s. braveness can also be interpreted as "the braveness of acceptance". im not denying that either. Yous should know by now, almost nothing do i deny, i only point out "details in the art", like... -
Lol. Hey, believe it or not i got my cold water shower today, lol. But yes i see what you mean.
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It was good advice. Unfortunately it ended up in a negative direction (unavoidable). it went into such an explosive direction anyway, that, another argument erupted, as she doesnt realize she keeps tryina invoke 15 different topics at once, without giving me even 5 or 15 mins to myself—AND, at the earliest of mornings mind you Like im in the middle of a shower, and she suddenly opens the door (which btw is super cold in our house, causeve the weather) nd so i get like, 10 minutes to myself to take a shower (which i didnt even take showers the first godamn months we were here, as i was too much in fight or flight to care about a shower). Did i get 10 mins to myself? No, she comes in talkin bout mold on the ceiling, mind you, there IS no mold on the fucking ceiling, and that ceiling has been screwed up since we moved here. She knows that the ceiling is screwed up cause they sent a guy to fix already, and she knows if its an issue w it, we call the landlord. But anyway... Once again, screws up the 10 mins of time to myself, talking bout literally 15 unwarranted, insignificant topics that have LITERALLY millions of hours to be explored, after this like, 10 mins, where i woke up not 5 mins earlier, She didnt say not a single word bout using the bathroom (as i told her she can use the bathroom anytime). But for some reason she had to continue the argument w me about like, "... i just wanted to use the bathroom". But she wasnt using the bathroom, she didnt even mention using the bathroom. Instead, She had the cold as fk door open, to let the steam out (to make me cold basically), And So Shes talking bout steam, shes talkin bout mold, shes talkin bout stains, shes talkin bout clothes gettin washed or dried in the dryer, shes talkin bout prolly somethin she talked about yesterday... The list goes on, but it further emphasizes the point i am tryina make to her: "Wtf" like... Can i get a minute?
