kavaris

I know jus what ya mean. I wanna say i felt that same thing today. Granted, i sorta forget exactly wat it was now, but it had a similar sorta tone, of which was like this "humans are becoming...." but i forget (ill prolly remember later and be like dANG it, i remember now)

Our god... lord in heaven (now its turnin into like an elogy) Trumpaeus... Time The trim, true and proper... The Guide, the clock tower Time... Running Trump... Singing etc. etc...

Oooo i had a SiiiiQ thought... "Politically fueled Hymn to Trumpaeus"

i see grateful dead, i *click* grateful dead.

Hey. Id respond to it in the context of a more spiritual-esque thing, if you want, but thats prolly jus me... i know others dont think like i do tho, and want everything to be distinct.

Yous have alot more exp., w/le superorganism of LIFE ( as well as anyone whos 40-50 Years of wise age) You see, im over here in 37-39 land, where everyone hates me, and i literally dont fit anywhere, and often told to "just die!" with conviction. Or other comments im plagued by, with utter conviction behind them... Where im like "Oh.... kaaaayyyyy... " can i get the nice gifts like those gifted by Joseph? Hey, its what i wonder EVERY day. Every year. Maybe every minute (okay imbeing rediculousness now, ha)

You r 100% right. Which is why im adding a couple more thoughts to wat youve already said... Theres also "Group thought ("group" meaning similar ideas, and also "exact same thought"), which can exist on top of "Globally! everyone is One suddenly" which can also exist as "Individually marking thoughts within someone else, or having it happen to you"... Which can exist alongside of... ... ... And yous get the point.. All of those things can be true, together, hence, reality. Albeit, it sortve kills the enthusiasm for it now, As it sounds like ive described madness, in tele - pathos - in cognitio / gnostos.

There all gonna be contradicting eventually, just a matter of time and patience. And theres no problem w/ that. Like i think things can live calmly as just sorta, floatin... "undecided"... unrevealed not-yet-revealed. Contradicting... I can attest to living a majority of my life in a borderline funk of contradiction, tryina steer a sinking ship like "AAAaannnd, Here WE GO, Guys. Time to float this motha effer, like..."

But.... Like.... Why though? Like why is it "im the guy up here, yous are down here"? Like, is that a nice thing to say?

Im not even right, thats how wrong i am.... or wait... it didnt come out right.

Oh you know i followed vadanta...and hairy krishna... If you name that sht, i followed that shr.... I followed honey bear and coyote ugly. Sinbad... Name it.

Yeo ... tomorrow im def gonna unload my belief suitcase, i swear ta belief god, and to hairy krishna.

(*repeats*) yall know i dont have strong convictions around *belief* right? Like, im mot saying that "the nature of everything is belief" im just saying, practically, right now, i have no beliefs, and ive settled there (but at the expense of having to explain it -kindve thing, which is like, "why is he explaining the thing now?") Like im jus saying... if ya thought i had a belief structure in active pursuit, its not there... maybe tomorrow... (Lol, imagine XD)

Carl and Josh yall are onto somethin YEO, keep goin now, As i believe it... i believe it with EVERY FIBER (P.s. yall know i dont hav strong *belief* convictions like that by now, right?)

Ok wait. Let me try something here: Distinctions... Differences... But also like... The Thing -> Transforms into another thing... So thats three things. Like, thats what i think it was boiling down to, that you could cont. to boil down... but also, there was something else, albeit its like... junk'd or gooky'd up w/ all this sht i jus spewed.

Why does logic start to become like "blocker"? Oh .... n/m, n/m im just losin my mind... go on.. as yous werre...

@Joseph Maynor Like its a logical wall we hit, but at the same time, if you scale it, its like "Oh that makes sense" -is what im saying, lol

Frame it like this (As im still writing tryina word it) (Cont.) I guess the weird part is, we never isolated "creation" and "knowing / figuring out" and held them together, As one, As like, this fundamental thing, cause suddenly its like, 'If you fuse things together like that, you suddenly have this unusual logic ball... Now the validation / invalidation of consciousness is making alot of sense, cause its like, like... its not that it breaks logic, but it... it does? But it doesnt though.... but it does? Like, its not broken... but in a sense.... it kindve does... or in the least, it breaks the logical rules required to "think things are gonna happen logically", simultaneously being illogical in the process. Albeit, we are fusing it together, but to me, it speaks to something profound, even if its just thoughts and words, its a CRAZY ordeal, but it also makes alot of sense to me... its like "Wait... You think the words you said make sense?" Like... SOMEONE out there is prolly thinking that, once they read it.

OR it would make it already, "figured out" too!.... nd i guess thats why its crazy profound too.

Oh right. Thats profound... wait a minute ... im tryina really understand wat just happened... *figuring out the thing, is the creation...* So wait... Forget about Figuring out~As a description or as a synonym for creation, But lets take that as a serious functional piece... Like Do you see what im saying? Like, wait, to figure out IS to create, So we are living in a flawed existence, just right out the gate of tryina figure it out (if we go by just the pure logic side of things) Like, outside of that phrasing or logic, we could find away around....BUT.. But for the time being... Think about it... Thats profoundly crazy.... Like "the minute you figure it out, youre already in the creation" Or vice versa (watev) Which everyone already knew that... prolly.... But its like, "to even think into figuring it out is just more creation", which would otherwise make it another created thing, as opposed to "figured out" Does that make sense? I know it doesnt sound right, but somewhere in there theres something interesting... i feel.

I cant count the # of situations when someone was like, "Oh im actually the thing now", like... Fk... Yous surely know wat im tlkin bout. or yous mightve forgotten (n/m ignore this second post, i went too far w/ the sentiment / joke reveal)

All those things happened to me too, including 4 4, And my name online is also Mellowmarsh too (jk im fkin w ya... That drives me nuts tho, like... "oh my name is actually all the things you are now" WHILE you are in the middle of talking about it... its more than enough for a little crazy making... or wen everything goes array, while you are feeling turbulence... i just ignore it, or try to, if it happens)

Alright lets just remove everything. Okay wait... wait... im tryina find somethin i felt... Suppose this scenario... we come into life.... (its fake life, but ya know ... we dont know that) And then, suppose we are like idiot sevants like, right outta the gate just like "I know its fake, fuck it yeo. Santa claus never brought me any presents" And suppose we are like 5 months old when we say this, Like... That sounds... crazy, but humor me.. Suppose this possible thing where we already know of its fakeness, the instant its created, such that we have two things overlapping "reality, as a means of like... existing IN reality" plus "Our birth, that we see as like, a proclomation on being born into reality" Now for watever freak reason, we come into it, knowing its not real... lets suppose.. I dont quite remember what i was thinking by illustrating it (or what i felt), but it wasnt to ask "What would happen", As it was more related to something now... Like... Gah... Fk it... Maybe yous will figure it out.

@Joseph Maynor Maybe that is the right question, that is, "Is figuring it out at odds w/ creation at the deepest lvl" Granted, like ... i just thought of it (that phrasing) And i mighta had a better way to phrase it, but it flew outta my head at the last minute.

Is it possible to figure out? (I know that sounds incredibly shallow and as if im asking a very general question, but let me see if i can work it out) As, im tryina know... Like, i thought i should just give up... As its like, the differences themselves are like, an Erogenously expressed thing... like ... Is like, is it possible to navigate, such that its not at odds w/ creation, do ya think? Im bein genuine asking, As its like, iuno... im fking up the question i want to ask... but i might find the words for it.