kavaris

For those into like... MMA, ti kuan do... uh wat is it... Kung fu or karate, stuff like that, yous would be into science, cause its the opportunity to make sense of the material and spiritual realm, or to take that physical science energy, and start investigating a new realm of science.... Q: Surely theres gotta be karare ppl out there coming to actualized right. i think so. somewhere.

Now surely this wont be taken as an insult, since the entire story was about me, and the last slither, was just to relate back to what we had spoken on. Which, i dont know how to express in the right way, that is, that it is irrelevant now since we failed that conversation, together. We failed as a team. We failed downhill together, how about that.

Humor me for a second. I wanna tell a story, but i want to start with a kindve initiatory question: "Because when people say "im confused" my first thought is actually "What would you have me say then...?" " But lets not get lost in that question, because its more of an *ice breaker, like a Gingerbread house for us all to meet at without getting worked up. Not meant to be taken seriously (DONT TAKE IT AS A SERIOUS QUESTION) Back in the day, i was working at this job (doesnt matter where) and i had had this co-worker, and sure, i had multiple co-worker/relationships like this, relationships where we had started to *bump heads*. And I kept telling him a story about how "theres this guy whos been bothering me... yada yada" .. you know... small talk. b.s. stuff... And so, my co-worker would listen to me ~ going on and on about my life, and, because him and i had a falling out, and because we werent exactly on good terms (its complicated/hard to explain) and because we were co workers, it just made things hard... and i chose him to start conversations with, expressing to him how.. how BAD it was going for me... trying to get past the b.s. from the day, during work, and in my life (i expressed it in a way that was... somewhat tolerable, cause the real version sucks!!!) And like i said, it was a sore area to talk about, and i couldve mentioned many, many subjects that were also on the sore side (there isnt anything NOT sore, put it that way, im just good at speaking to people in person... obviously thats not the case online since no one can understand me) But i was curious "what he wouldve done" instead, like "what were my options", cause whatever i kept doing was causing more and more trouble for myself ... so much so ~ that this individual, the individual causing me trouble had visited that co-worker in person, and thankfully the coworker was able to get rid of him... easily... not by force. Im not sure what he did, for his spirit just "shoo'd" him away somehow, possibly by accident, possibly luck, possibly skill, who knows... doesnt matter.. That situation helped me learn something. Granted, the major downfall happened after, but like... I mean, im referencing it now, so i learned something about a situation that i could reference. So bottomline, after all of that, telling him about how, there were issues in my life, especially certain persons, he would end up saying: "Are you talking about me (metaphorically)?" Like, in other words, he thought, because him and i werent on good terms, and because we didnt have the right rhythm together, that everything i was saying, everything i was talking to him about ~confiding in him~ was ABOUT HIM. Presumably about the falling out between him and i. I was like, are you fucking serious. And maybe he meant "is that how you feel about me" typeve thing (meaning, "i get what you been through, but is that ALSO how you feel whilst here?"). But if thats what he meant, he didnt say anything like that. Thats not the point anyway. The point is, i gave him this elaborate story, interweaving through things that are ~and continue to be~ hard to speak on, and it just flew over his head. Like he didnt understand anything i was telling him. Did he say "i dont understand anything you said", Well... Think about it, its totally different situation when offline compared to online. We were in person, offline. P.s. On the off chance he did say that, what he wouldve meant was "i can NOT relate to your experience" The point is, we were co workers, spending many hours together ~ which awarded us too much time to understand each other. And in the end, like days before i left that b.s. (not because of him!), he said "was that all analogy... Do you mean (me) and not (this life long antagonist)?" He probably thought i left that job because of him... like... He had NO FUCKING CLUE. Like wtf??? Thats what my life is. In the end, even the co worker is like, "i dont get it". > Well, what is there to get... its like, we are just talking... spitballing; like... nobody knows anything about me, therefore im expressing to you something about me. Do i have to outline the mechanics of this? Like how many details are to be splattered on the wall before its like, you are witnessing the witness whos been through some shit. And we are trying to mentally survive it now, together, otherwise itll be unbearable from here on out. Like, we started from this standpoint of "My dad use to take me to karate..." I am telling you what happens in real life, when you arent rolling downhill. Theres no insult there, its just what happened in our conversation today. Uphill from one person, Downhill from the other. Im not even commenting on it, besides the karate part, which is just word for word. the first few words. it didnt mean anything, which is the point though. we're changing the subject. I mean, starting over, "my dad DIDNT take me to karate", THere. But anyway, that is what im tryina express there. THats it. Feel free to share. Keep in mind, it may feel somewhat unbearable, cause for myself, there isnt any point where im not finding things unbearable. This is just stress level +4 on the "Already-Stressed-to-Death" level towards infinity case for me. I assume theres gonna be people like that too on here, at some point, people whove been through some shit, and to treat everyone with that benefit of the doubt at first (or im just double checking, cause i definitely dont want to insult people like myself, like older people i mean... if its a young soul, i mean... sometimes you cant help but correct them... it just happens... i mean...). I always preface with ".. gonna be a stressful situation" if its gonna be a stressful situation.

I even prefaced with "how stressful it would be for me to get into such a topic", but he decided this thread was about fighting online for some reason, Why is this guy commenting in my threads if this is how hes chosen to speak to people? Tell me, cause id like to know. Heres one where he comments to someone else, and what his impression is like,

Like im having to guess at what people are saying they are confused about (its mainly this guy i come to learn, as im looking at his activity), but not cause he had a viable, concrete reason (or a message quoted clearly) and not because weve seemed to reach a wall / impasse (an impenetrable crossing / wall within said message) but because they repeatedly keep saying how confused they are ... like... and then ending with "... sheesh, thanks.." Thats not how people talk to each other. If you say "thanks" in the end of a rant about being confused, it sounds like thats your last message for the day, like... It sounds like you are expiring from the convo. it doesnt sound like you are participating in anyway, shape or form.

Like the persistence level is high, the personality level -not so good. We are working on those things, for myself as well as others.

This thread is about science. Ill preface with saying that. Now at one point, i was considering it from the direction of like, physical science, whatchamacallit, like gym class science. Forget about that now. For, once you try to give someone advice about it (or really its not so much my advice confusing them, but their persistence to explain how confused they are about everything, without explaining why... and theyve dont this before) causing said confusion. Persistently mind you. So anyway, thats not what this thread is about. Ignore that man behind the curtain Hopefully we dont gotta reference 'turn of phrases.

Well anyway, now that we can resume where we left off, the options were to talk about science, or what i now would say is to talk about whatever this guy was on about, which doesnt sound like its gonna be fun. This thread is about science, so lets just get that straight. I wouldve considered whatever the above guy was on about, thankfully hes moved on (right?) Good. So Science, science is not fighting. Hopefully we are not running the tape back too far that thats what the confusion is.

I had a conversation with you, based on your very first post to this thread. That was gona be the end right there, but you are taking me on a neverending journey, so lets end it. its bullshuit.

You couldve pointed out at any time, what had confused you...

Its my thread dip shit. Im gonna continue talking about science, which was what the thread was about btw. I know you wanted to derail it into high holy hell, but im just gonna continue with what it was all about, from the beginning

I mean fuck. How many times does this need to happen.

I will read it. Im not insulting anyone, you are continuing to say how confused you are, and then engaging me? Why not engage someone else huh?

I expressed my opinion by reporting your ass, cause this is literally like the second time youve taken my thread on the same journey, where you are engaging me, and then abusing me and the thread.

Im talking directly to you. DIRECTLY

Like dude. You keep responding (to me, the person you are so confused about, and dont understand ANYTHING im writing) and then saying, "i dont really understand what you are saying", Like, do you want to engage with a real person online or not? That means working through it and having a conversation. How would you feel if every time you responded it was like, "well i didnt understand anything... but seesh... thanks for nothing"- Youd be like. "dude, wtf is that"

You keep derailing my threads saying "i dont understand what you mean". Dude. its fucking annoying as shit. You are bringing up fighting. So im responding to your naive notions of fighting. If theres something you are confused about, then outline it explicitly. This is like the second time youve done this before.

@Someone here Btw, the topic wasnt even about fighting. You brought it up.

Yea theres alot of ruder ppl out there, youll come to find that out.

For big ppl, yous have such a range of options in fighting, granted iuno if being big and fat is ideal, cause like, iuno how productive thatll be, but just being a big person gives you lots of options, which is why those ppl have so much joy in the area of martial arts, cause they are experiencing lots of variety and things to think about. I mean its not like you are programming or anything, and those two things id imagine conflict in a sense, cause one mindset is about these tiny, digital, frontal lobe things, and the other is about rhythm and feel, and more of the Olympic, wrestling, rhythm

ya i feel ya. i mean it depends if you are a smaller pers., or a bigger pers., right, but ya, i can see how that might be advice or talk from a dad. Ive gotten in quite alot of fights growing up, so i wouldnt suggest those things. At the same time, iuno how many ppl r getting in fights these days, so im not gonna challenge the family advice right now. Its also kindve stressful for me to invoke all those ideas, for myself, cause id be giving away alot of secrets, but id share some things in pm message for anyone. Basically, as a small ppl, you are not thinking in terms of "fighting", for everything is "how to exploit". You never attack first, if you can avoid it, unless you have some miracle opportunity to get the big pers. on the ground. Getting them on the ground is essential. Never EVER punch someone unless you want to die for real. You get them on the ground, either by grabbing their ankle and pulling tgeir leg out, or putting your foot behind their leg, and pushing them over said leg. You would have to catch someone by surprise to do this, or you have to lure them towards you, for the moment they come towards you, you have some options. The number one best option is to just get out of there... But if they are coming fast, you gotta learn to maneuver and trip them, or like i said, get to work on those ankles, twist that ankle if you can, like in the same way ppl grab arms for arm bars. You cant fight normal if you are small... think *insectoid. If yous are the same weight, height and strength, then yous can punch and kick each other all day. p.s. im talkin bout fighting ppl 100 lbs over your weight, so yous might not be familiar w/ this. but thats the kindve fights ive been in my whole life, where you are inventing your own style of exploits... which btw, none of them will work if you screw it up in the first 5 seconds anyway, so really its not something you think about. Its a 5 second window.

Like we have to ask that question as well, about choosing the road, either A) getting to the essence, pointing towards its essence, or B) Distilling truth such that it can be pointed towards.... or further explored. The istemi towards and the distillation of truth are part of a spectrum of exploration, neither which can give you a direction, beyond the prioritizing of the self, and though that would be the final word, the self exists as an emanation of reality, so the moment you figure out the self, youve arrived back in reality, where its not as simple as just occupying the self. The self is a good start, or the "prioritization of the *self... in the journey towards" kindve thing.

(See Video Below) Philology for those who dont know, is the study of language as it exsts within historical sources, and how it intersects w/ textural and literary criticism, and which i title this -> because we are all effectively speaking to philology and language when we study history, for it is what we use to talk about such things, to say "This is what happened in history". And many of those sources are pulling from esoteric places, whether it be related to the mysteries of Egypt, or the Alchemical Latin coming from the Roman Empire / Medieval, or the Renaissance, and a connection to Cathedrals and Pyramids in terms of their resonance/harmonic qualities and such, etc., its all Medieval in some sense, and 90% philology~And as it would exist in what i call an esoteric, medieval world (but for the goals that might pertain to science, or language, or something else). Im watching this video at the moment, which has nothing to do w/ language, directly (Medieval Hebrew, etc.) but its touching on these ideas that jump into Cultures like that of Egypt, The Templars, Those of the Americas, Tribes and such... And then towards ~1:20:00, he's briefly touching on his thoughts & opinions of Shakespeare & his work, And how Shakespeare could not have written those Tragedies, Comedies attributed to him ~ Alas, Ive heard this from several different people before, and he brings up an interesting point, that which i thought yous might find interesting, and to get your opinion on ~ For I dont really know enough around Shakespeare (beyond his material) of the 16th CE ~ As ive looked predominately at 14th and briefly at ~19th/20th CE So it sits at a point that im not as focused on, and that i havent looked at, though it has alot of these mysteries, which could be related to the works of Shakespeare given those clues people are picking up on, stuff that the public did not know. Perhaps its connected to mystery cult knowledge, or something related to these Pre-Templars seeing as the Templar/Masons, atleast according to history, starts in ~10th CE, well after the Classical Period and such, Though the Templars themselves couldve been based on something that we dont know, regardless, they are very much apart of alot of these esoteric things (note, he speaks on alot more than Shakespeare & Templars in the video, but i just found that part curious, for ive heard something similar from people)

Was this like a UK thing or somethin, cause you cant find any videos on this band unless you do like, the deepest of searches... on youtube... This is a remix, but its actually very well rounded, like harmonically and synthetically it sounds very smooth

Browsing through videos the other day, one of them had this song thats embedded in my mind now, the vocals and the rhythm~ the rhythmic, muted beat is okay, but its more like the chosen drum notes, intervals of the beat, and i feel like the timing / measures change slightly when it picks up, but i might be hallucinating it tell me if this gets stuck in everyones head