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I was very impressed that Joe Rogan was able to get him to talk so much about it. I really have no experience with paranormal stuff he was talking about but it was really interesting. It is nice to hear Sahd Guru talk about something new. He seems to repeat a lot of the same points which is good in come ways but this talk was great. I also liked how Joe kept pinning him down trying to get him to reveal exactly what someone needs to do to get started taking control of their wellbeing.

Thanks for sharing. I seem to have had similar experiences with 5MEO but I had a bit less intensity than you describe. My doses were low-moderate. It is interesting to read how you interpret and describe your memory of this experience.

I am an introvert. Some benefits I have noticed that I can think of off the top of my head: - I find that people listen to me when I speak much more than with my extrovert friends. People seem to think what I have to say is well thought out because I don't say much. - I am happy meditating, exercising by myself, playing video games, without having to spend money doing social things. - Some girls really like introverts, I have had the same girlfriend for 10 years but if I was looking for one I think it would not be hard for me without having to try to imitate an extrovert. Just listen well, have a sense of humor and find out through trial and error what she likes. - As for getting a good high paying job, I would agree that it is more of a challenge. I don't feel a strong desire to have a high paying career since I just need a bit of money to be happy and do the things I want to do right now.

I enjoyed reading your post. I really want to try meditating for an hour in the morning and evening. It has been in the back of my mind to do it for a while. Purifying my mind does sound worthwhile. I have been prioritizing keeping my girlfriend happy, working and trying to heal my knees. Since I have not meditated consistently, sometimes I can go an hour without moving but often I don't last more than 20 minutes. I will give it a try starting tonight.

Michael Taft on Youtube has around 120 guided meditations. I listened to around 6. The videos are around 1.5 hours. He talks about meditation topics afterwards which is nice for understanding and seeing things differently.

I received my order of DSMA on Tuesday January 25th. I plan to take 100 mg every 4 hours for 4 days then take 3 days off. I took my first 100mg pill at 1am on Wednesday. That night I had a nightmare where I was at work and I collapsed and started going unconscious due to taking the DSMA. I then had another dream about being sick and not knowing if i should call in sick for work or call the ambulance. I tried to get out of bed but then fell back into the bed and started going unconscious again. The side effects while awake was sleepyness, light headache, larger appetite and thirst. peeing more. wednesday night I slept better and thursday night was even better. I think the 100mg dose is not too much for me. I will plan to do 4 rounds then move up to 200mg every 4 hours. After 4 rounds at 200mg I will try adding some ALA. I did not take any 5MEO DMT recently. I need to order more, I think I have around 10mg left

I started at 1am last night 100mg dmsa every 4 hours. I bought 100mg pills before I researched it more and it just arrived. Starting with less is probably better but I am too impatient to wait another 6 weeks. I will check out your experience from time to time. I wish you the best.

Ohh that happens to me too. You can try switching to a mindfulness meditation where you focus on any tension as you breath in and allow it to relax as you breath out. I often have tension in my jaw and shoulders. When i first noticed my shoulder tension, I felt them drop what seemed like 2 inches as I relaxed them. Check your jaw, face, shoulders and stomach. After you feel more relaxed try going back to your normal meditation technique. If it still really bothers you there are other meditation methods you can try too. It is important to try to be as physically comfortable as you can as you meditate even though emotional discomfort and a bit of pain is ok.

All you have to do is focus on the sensation of you stomach expanding and contracting as you breath as if it is the first time you are experiencing it. You want to try to become fascinated with it and not assume you know what the next breath will be like. Try to realize how amazing and beautiful it is to be able to experience taking a breath. Over time you will eventually experience less thoughts and concepts come up as your mind rewires itself and becomes better at focusing. When you think to yourself about what the meditation instructions are or how it is so hard not get distracted, just become aware that those thoughts have come up. Accept the thoughts are now the focus of your attention and part of the meditation, try to see or hear them as clearly as possible, then move your attention back to your stomach. You are not supposed to keep your attention in one spot the entire time. The benefit comes from realizing that your focus has been thrown off, getting a better awareness of what your mind is doing as it does it. That it is all part of the meditation. So over time you will get less thoughts constantly coming up as you focus on your stomach but the goal is to become aware of things as they are. This includes the thoughts that are there when trying to focus so you are not doing anything wrong if you have many thoughts. What you experience is the truth of what is there.

@ZenSwift That is an interesting link. I estimated using my cheap $50 scale that one 10-15mg scoop that I use was really 7mg which matches up with what was reported here for the 10-12mg scoops.

Hey, I think this is a great opportunity for you. I am curious to read a trip report from you too. I recommend you read some trip reports and watch some trip report videos. Don't avoid the bad experiences that other people have had. Try to learn what the dangers are too. If you are not meditating every day already then It might be a good time to start a bit now. Meditate the days following your trip to try to get a better understanding of the experience. 5-MEO is the only psychedelic I have tried and I have had good experiences so far. Have a nice trip.

This has kind of started to become a journal so I started a post in the journal section instead where I will continue posting:

Hello, I just ordered 5MEO DMT online this morning and it should arrive in 2-4 business days. Does anyone have links for a newbie like me that will help me? I never took any psychedelics before. I have been meditating off and on for around 10-15 years. I am 32 years old now. I have watched 90% or more of Leo’s videos I remember watching a video on Leo’s blog on how he takes it and gives some advice but there are many pages to scroll through. I also vaguely remember Leo mentioning to watch a certain video of his before taking 5 MEO but forget which it was. I am on my phone now and it is hard to search on here compared to a desktop computer. I got scared after ordering it. It feels like I am about to lose my virginity.

I plugged 3 scoops yesterday so around 21mg freebase in 3ml of vinegar. I planned to just experience without any goals or trying to learn anything. It was nice experience. It took me into a state where I can focus on see hear feel and let everything else start to disappear. At one point I stood up and looked back at my bed. I was so focused on what I was looking at that I realized to could be in danger of falling over if I continued diving into my visual field. I sat on my bed and wondered what I can take away from this experience. It began to think about my priorities and that I should be prioritizing the health of my physical body and my mind higher than I am now. It seemed like it is much more important to maintain my body's health than I have been showing through my actions. I meditated for 1 hour before the trip and 30 min later on that day. The 30 min several hours after the trip I was able to get into a state very similar to when I was tripping. I did not follow my normal mindfulness or satisfaction meditation. I just sat there and surrendered to experience. I watched Leo's video today on heavy metal detox and I think this is a good idea for me to try. I will also be planning to continue daily self massage to try to heal my knee pain and meditation to improve my sensory clarity. I have been meditating an average of an hour per day for the last 2 weeks mostly doing mindfulness meditation with labeling and trying out the satisfaction meditation a bit.

I have thought for a while that I would like solitary confinement for maybe a month or so at a time rather than being in a normal prison cell. I am not sure how it would be unless I experienced it though. I think for most people they really do need some human interaction to feel safe. Trying to suppress feelings of boredom, fear and loneliness and retreating into your imagination will make people crazy though understandably. I am pretty sure the light is on all the time so you can’t sleep well. It may also be too cold and uncomfortable with crappy food. These discomforts will eat away at you over time. I am curious how I would experience it and how a monk would experience it.

@bliss54 Hey, thanks for reading and sharing that you appreciate me sharing my experience. It worked fine for me without a sitter. I explained in the previous posts how much I started with and how I took it. I have my own bathroom, bedroom and kitchen so I have a lot of privacy. For me it really helped starting with a low dosage. Lying down helps a lot for not being nauseous. It seems like it is a bit hard to control my body and I really feel like staying still during most of the time and for part of it I want to squirm around so I start out semi prone sort of in the recovery position in the off chance that I throw up or something like that. The one time I tried to sit up fairly early on, I felt sick and it was distracting. This last trip I knew sort of what to expect and although the experience was much more intense, the previous experience with the lower doses allowed me to feel safe. I think it could become very uncomfortable if you are afraid and struggling with what is going on.

I plugged 3 scoops of 5-MEO DMT today which weighed around 20-21 mg total. It was a more intense experience this time. I felt it starting to kick in in less than 1 minute. I laid down semi prone for the first 5 min or so then went onto my back when I realized I the initial bit of nauseous feeling went away. I noticed that I was able to be very focused on sensations but it required me to give up my attention of other parts of my awareness. I could vaguely remember being human lying down but the details of my life were not present with me. That was not interesting to me. I was more focused on answering what I am, what I want. I noticed that it felt quite pleasant to lie down and enjoy the experience of existing. At some points, I could hear a loud noise like a generator that would slow down and speed up. When I focused it would slow down then when I switched my attention it would speed up. I looked at my hand for a bit and it looked like it was melting away . It sort of moved a bit like fire. I am not sure exactly how to describe it. It did not feel unpleasant though. I remember memories of advice from different people like Sadhguru came up saying something along the lines of if you put yourself fully into something then it will become a great thing. Other advice came up but I silenced it and decided I wanted to come up with my own understanding. Goal setting for me has usually been about material goals like make $10000 in one month in my business or "meditate everyday for 1 hour" but that might not be the best way to about living a good life. A good way to go about living a good life seems to be to figure out what I want to experience subjectively in the present moment and experiment on now to achieve that. At the same time, you will ideally fully accept the current moment as it is. Even accept the desire to change it. See the necessity for everything to be exactly as it is because it really is perfect from a big picture perspective. Part of experiencing things the way I want that is being able to experience deeply and not be caught up in worrying or making plans constantly. I remember thinking part of what is great about reality is discovering things for the first time that you did not know. It is interesting to me to think about all experiences as being unique and that lessons can be learned constantly from them. I am not sure if I should take more 5-MEO DMT next time. I might take the same amount or half a scoop more and have a clearer plan on what I would like to contemplate about.

The first time I did 1 hour after watching Leo's strong determination sitting video. I pretended that I will be given 1 billion dollars if I sit for 1 hour. I did it like it was real and did not move pretty much at all for the hour even when I felt very uncomfortable and my butt felt like it was on fire. After I did it 1 time then it was easier as I kept trying it even though sometimes I would give up after 30 or 45 min it was a big improvement after doing it the first time an knowing it is possible for me and is not so bad looking back on it.

I plugged 15 mg of 5-MEO DMT as measured by my scale which was 2 of the 10-15 mg scoops. I wrote my experience here shortly after my trip but it seems there was a problem with the forum and my post was deleted. This was my 3rd trip ever. This time I had very little nausea which was a nice relief from the previous time. I believe this was due to lying down for the first 30-40 min. My body felt like it started to vibrate which I was getting used to from the first 2 trips. My sense of touch felt clear and very comfortable. At some points I felt like feeling up my body with my hands but most of the time I kept perfectly still. My vision seemed to blur out sharp edges but it still seemed like I was focused and seeing clearly. I asked myself what this was (referring to the present experience). I realized I did not even know what it meant to know something. It is not as simple as someone telling me and then believing it. I need to use my own awareness and intelligence to understand. I asked myself what I wanted and I had a strong desire to understand myself. I really felt like I lacked understanding of my beliefs, motivations and values. My priorities seemed to shift to awareness of my thoughts and feelings and seeing patterns in my reactions. I think in this way I can make better decisions on what I want to do with my life and how to spend my time in a way that lets me appreciate, understand and construct the reality that I want. After 30-40 min of lying in my bed, I got up and took a shower. I contemplated what it meant for something to be true or real and what it meant to understand or know something compared to believing it. What would understanding how reality works mean in the present experience? In 2 weeks I plan on taking 3 scoops. I will keep doing my best to keep meditating and contemplating these questions until then.

You might not realize that you "made up" that you are your body. How do you know that this is your identity. If you really believed that you would say that you become the soil after you die. Why do you think that you don't know what happens to you after you die? Don't you really believe that you are the experience?

From my experience, I think doing 20 minutes 3 times a day with the occasional longer sits every once in a while works the best. I really should follow this advice. I always try to sit for 1 hour but often put it off because I don't have quite enough time.

An assumption is a belief. What is a belief made out of? Multiple emotions, internal images and sounds layered on top of each other. I count this as a thing. Point to any belief you have and that is an example of something that is an assumption made out of many assumptions.

This is the way I see it. Every concept has assumptions surrounding it. I don't think you can be 100% certain of anything in the realm of concepts. Direct experience of the present moment allows you to at least be aware of what assumptions you are holding. Seeing, hearing and feeling are not assumptions, they are your direct experience.

The point is that we believe that the sun will rise tomorrow because of models in our head. These models are an over simplification of reality. If we are not aware of something in the present moment, concepts about these things are never even close to fully true. Why would you believe any concept fully? Literally the sun does not rise anyways. The earth spins and it appears to rise from our perspective. I would consider that the sun will rise tomorrow to be a false statement.

I just wanted to make an update on some things that have seemed to change since taking 5MEO DMT this weekend. The first thing I noticed was that the sex with my girlfriend was really even better than usual. This happened before when I was meditating a lot. The second thing today after rewatching Leo's video "Guided Exercise For Realizing You Are God" I am much more aware of how my reality is being constructed over top of the present moment. There are infinite ways it can be constructed over what the perceptions are presently. During the drive to work today, I was just focused on the concepts that were coming up as they came up and how they were nowhere near the truth that was experienced right here. I still needed the concepts to know where to drive and when to accelerate or brake but I could see them as ultimately an illusion and makes me think that I can build a reality however I want over top of the raw sensations. Anyways. I will keep focused on this since it is very interesting to me and see what comes of this.