Sincerity

Yeah. The right person in the right place/conditions can cause a lot of damage. Or a lot of good, for that matter. But the reason why that person is „right” to cause damage (or good) in a place is because it allowed them to do so. Moderation is a thin line to walk. I think there are definitely lessons to be learned from this entire case. Really, it’s SUCH an interesting case study, worth thinking about. It could literally be told as a bedtime story lol. I truly believe the forum should be more strict with what it tolerates - especially the utter bullshitters, those who are here to just fuck around or spout low quality replies, and those who propel drama. But every coin has two sides. Stricter moderation is, I guess, more authoritarian. And everyone has different views on what is noxious to the community. My views will not be aligned with others’. Basically the overall direction of moderation is only up to Leo - and that’s good, since it’s his platform. What’s also an interesting argument against the more authoritarian attitude - and this is not something Leo has said anywhere, but something I was thinking about - is whether a lower-quality user generating a lot of engagement is better than the user not being here. I realize this is complicated and that a lower-quality user can make the higher-quality ones go away, but on the other hand engagement is the pulse of the forum. So for example, take someone who posts a lot, they do have some wisdom and share it sometimes but 98% just fucks around - are they better for the life of the forum or no? Or an utter bullshitter who creates considerable traffic with the threads they create. Better if they are here or no? I think it’s a matter of assessing what choice leads to overall higher quality and engagement. Also, overall, deciding to what degree the quality in the forum should be prioritized over engagement. It might sound controversial and one could say „of course quality should be prioritized 10x more!!!!” but is that really ALWAYS the right choice? Tricky dynamics. What’s important to contemplate is what is best for the overall system. And to be clear: I’m NOT saying that Preety being here was good. I think she wasn’t. I’m saying that moderation is complex, and interesting.

FYI: We recognize the post/account feels suspicious. No evidence yet from our fake-account-checking tools though. The staff is keeping an eye out.

Such experiences always arise for me on their own, after very deeply focusing on what I am. Maybe I'll try to go for them more directly somehow, with asking different questions.

I had a very cool vision on that trip. Imagine a giant, rocky mountain, on top of which a huge, white, infinite Eye of God is stationed. The Eye is looking at everyone. It can be seen from the very bottom of the mountain. Each person sees the Eye as looking at exactly them. When you make eye contact with the Eye, your body starts climbing up the mountain. The more you climb the mountain, the more you feel the intensity of God's Eye staring at you. It makes you want to break eye contact. However, when you do break eye contact, your body gives up on going up the mountain and it starts backtracking. You only go up the mountain if you keep eye contact with the Eye, otherwise you're going away from it. The point is to withstand the intensity of the Eye. To go so far, the intensity is almost unbearable. You CRAVE to break eye contact. But you truly WANT God, so you're going up. Only a true hero reaches the top.

Yes, I'm 100% not done with that. Okay sure. I was just trying to follow the set terminology. Okay cool. Yeah, on Saturday I could see that the entire Consciousness/Experience bubble was God (Me), the notebook I was putting in front of my eyes was Me, that it was being Willed/Dreamt into existence by Me, I did see my body as God's form (a very weird feeling, seeing my body as if being/belonging to some kind of DMT entity). I could see that I was INSTANTLY willing any actions and then the actions were being manifested, which was also a funny realization. For example, I instantly saw my will to write something down, then the action of writing proceeded, but I was so high level that my actual writing was very all over the place. I could barely write or walk but I saw the will to do these things immediately. I guess maybe these are examples of going up.

@Someone here 🤦‍♂️ Go input our responses into an AI and see who it tells you is insecure. I just did. Had a laugh. "In the two forum responses, the insecure words and tone are more evident in the second response. Here's a breakdown: Response One: Tone: Direct and critical, but generally focused on providing advice. Content: The speaker is advising the other person to focus on their real life and gain experience before delving into spiritual or intellectual pursuits. Insecurity: There is a level of condescension and judgment, but it is framed as advice. The speaker comes across as confident in their perspective. Response Two: Tone: Defensive and aggressive, with a mix of boasting and dismissiveness. Content: The speaker feels the need to defend their lifestyle and achievements, listing numerous personal accomplishments and dismissing the relevance of the conversation. Insecurity: The boasting about personal achievements (e.g., reading three books a day, doing 1000 push-ups, giving charity) and the dismissive attitude towards discussing personal life suggest insecurity. The speaker feels the need to prove their worth and deflect criticism, which is a common sign of insecurity. Conclusion: The second response exhibits more insecure language and behavior. The need to list personal achievements and dismiss the conversation as irrelevant indicates a defensive stance, which is often a sign of insecurity."

Thanks for all your input here. Something clicked in me while reading it. I remember in one of your episodes, I can't remember which, you made the distinction between going "up" in awakening vs "down". I realize you're making that same distinction here - going for God vs Nothingness, in your terminology here. You're saying that the Nothingness is not graspable, while God (supposedly) is. Correct me if I interpreted anything wrong here. I realize I've been going about awakening by always focusing on what I am, thereby going "down". I'm contemplating how I can change my approach to focus on going "up". What questions to best ask myself for that. This would be a significant change in course for me.

Ignoring words of reason won't help you. Stop pretending, especially in front of yourself. You are nowhere close to "awake" and you don't need to be. It's okay. Work on your actual life. Don't put the cart in front of the horse. Build a solid foundation. Get life experience. Find how you want to work. This is groundwork which is very good for future spiritual development if you ever really care about it. You're not ready for any kind of "enlightenment" yet, stop repeating things you've heard, stop pretending you have it figured out. You talk about not-knowing as if it's some pinacle of attainment. That's cool, but again, go work on your real life instead of all this intellectualizing. Trust me, your words ARE hollow. You ARE much better off just giving up this charade. This would be so much more respectable.

@Someone here Very bold words. Still, ringing hollow. I don't doubt you've faced dark times. You'd be much better off focusing on your actual life and not all this spiritual mental masturbation. It would most likely help you feel better. I guess the answer to the job question is no.

You should have a tangible life purpose besides spiritual pursuits. You should have experience of life, master survival to a degree. Please confirm: did you ever work a job or no? Instead of playing video games and masturbating, you are mentally masturbating all day. Neat. You're not getting anywhere with it. Your words ring hollow and it's very obvious. When will you end this embarassment? Like, come on dude. Seriously. At least stop pretending you're much more developed than you really are, especially in front of yourself. The bs you spin is really cringe.

Arrogant as always, huh. You haven't seen God. Your communication might fool some, but not those who have the slightest clue. Humble yourself a bit, you ain't even close to "awake", for now you only have ideas. Believe me, it is utterly obvious. Better work on your personal life more instead of all this bs, from what I remember you haven't even had a job yet (correct me if I'm wrong though). You're really tiresome with all that bullshit you spin.

Moving to the journal section, since this thread is basically a journal.

Got it. Thanks for the responses! I will reconsider my efforts to be wiser. Still, with the understanding that I’m missing things - I do feel I am, indeed. I might need to change my approach somehow.

Also: is it your view that at a point one should give up trying to put the finger then, once it’s realized that it is futile? And redirect efforts to other aspects of awakening like the why, the how, etc?

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Got it. So when you talk about being Awake, that doesn’t mean having the finger put on God. More like seeing EVERYTHING as God to insane degrees, but with the Mystery still intact. Right?

So what? Moving to off-topic.

Ayyy, happy birthday Leo. Wishing you all the best.

LECZ LUDZI DOBREJ WOLI JEST WIĘCEJ! I mocno wierzę w to, że ten świaaaaaaaaaaaat... Nie zginie nigdy dzięki nim! NIE! NIE! NIEEEEEEEE!

If it did „happen”, it wasn’t static forever because it’s not true now, so the ever-changing nature won after all and the „static infinity” didn’t happen. God is everywhere to be found.*

Well, is that true? I suggest it’s a matter of observing what’s true, not speculation. Notice reality is ever-changing in each and every moment. Some things seem like a possibility, eg. „If God is omnipotent, could God erase itself?”. But they’re just not true. Consciousness/God Is. Reality Changes. These „possibilities” are, in a way, mistakes in thinking/understanding. I suggest the only permanence is Consciousness itself.

Yeah, I get it. I'm young like you. You gotta work your ass off. Life is hard.

Your arrogance is appalling. What happened to not-knowing and humility, instead of this debunking mode and over-confidence? Such typical "spiritual person" behaviour. Btw, you also do the same shtick with your politics and that crypto-rightwinger bs. Ignorance under the guise of being "open-minded" and "conscious". Do yourself (and everyone else) a favour and stop thinking you know.

Evolution is a subset of change. Reality is Ever-Changing. This is true. But is it ever-evolving? Perhaps. I'd be inclined to say yes, since each new moment/experience is a broadening of what has been already perceived. And with new perceptions, new inspirations and thoughts arise, largely building on previous ones. Slow growth, but growth (= evolution) nevertheless. Processing things as part of backsliding (like we see right now with the US, for example) is also evolution. Even when it looks like regress. Evolution, however, is more of an interpretation of experience(s), while change is observed in each and every moment, in actuality. So I wouldn't be attached to the thought of evolution being permanent and absolute. There's truth there, but I don't think it's fully right. Change is true, always. Evolution not necessarily.

Food for thought. I think an "adult" by definition would be God-realized, at least to a degree. So 100%. But we live in a world of children. Myself included ofc.