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Jake Chambers replied to Jake Chambers's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Raptorsin7 I'd rather not go too deep into the details of my medical situation. It's not what I'm here for. @Tyler Robinson I'm in my late twenties. I've made my peace with it, parts of my mind are very mature, stable and developed. I am just so curious as to what will happen after life. -
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Jake Chambers replied to Jake Chambers's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Eternal Unity Good to know there is another DT fan here. I'm hoping my fate will be the same as Roland's. Thanks for that book recommendation. Yes I will have enough time to read it. I will. -
Jake Chambers replied to Jake Chambers's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Raptorsin7 Cancer. -
Jake Chambers replied to Holykael's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
dude, please get some help and get off the forum. -
Jake Chambers replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why can Leo edit his post without it being marked on the post like the rest of us? -
Jake Chambers replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Why is it so hard to make sense of the political situation in the world? I’m having quite some trouble navigating the narratives and conspiracies that are spread all over the internet. Even though far right conspiracy theories involving elitist jews are are clearly untrue to me I still feel myself drawn to the narrative that there is some form of globalist, you could say cultural marxist agenda in the world. I am seeing some evidence for this in my direct experience, such as the fact that European countries are making pacts with third world countries (such as the Marrakech pact that the Netherlands made with Morocco) to cause a very high influx of immigrants to the European countries, when it is clear that the majority of European citizens do not want this, and it is a fact that there Are a lot of problems with integration of migrants. And there is a lot of pushing of interracial couples in ads for example. It feels like companies are weakening people of all races this way. But it could also just be companies using it as a fad to fit in with this popular multicultural narrative to make more money. Yet somehow it feels like there is some truth to the “globohomo” neo-liberal agenda. I know it is dumb to assume an evil cabal of elitists are behind this, but isn’t it just as dumb to assume that the cultural narratives that the neo-liberal mainstream media puts out are also true? I am aware that for example Fox news is a huge gaslighting, twisting of facts pit of bullshit. But it also feels like there is so much more at play than what the opponents of Fox are telling us. What is the true narrative of what is going on in the west culturally right now? I am not trying to say that for example Joe Biden is as corrupt as Trump. It is clear now that Trump is very corrupt and even criminal. But isn’t it true that the MSM are very pro biden and are in this way clouding our perception of the bullshit that the liberals might be playing on us? To me it feels like the maga right are just medieval criminals and that the neo-Liberals are out for the money and using cultural weapons to destroy the current bastions of culture such as white people and black people, and trying to make a melting pot of culture so they can control the people more. For example you don’t see neoliberals pushing for traditional family values which is seen as a very “right” thing. Even though it is quite clear that family values are very important for all peoples to become strong. Why aren’t the democrats pushing for the family values of black people when they are supposed to be the party of blacks? The majority of black kids grow up without their father which causes a lot of problems in their community. I think this is some evidence that there is something at least mildly sinister about the current neoliberal cultural narrative. I should be using more nuance in my phrasing of this post but that is precisely my problem, its hard to make sense of the nuances of the cultural political world which is the reason i think a lot of people fall for the trap of entering either far right or far left echo chambers and groups. Also a critique to @Leo Gura, instead of just calling people morons who seem in your eyes to be falling into epistemological traps and thats that, try to teach us how to see what is going on politically in the actual content. For example instead of just banning @Yarco from the politics section, (which I understand), at least when you ban a member like him try to actually analyse his posts for example and point out what is untrue about it and why. You seem to have this air about you that if we dom’t see whats untrue about it we are morons and should not be in this forum. Well, try to imagine that a lot of us are having trouble with epistemology and we are not morons, it just might not be as easy for us as for you.
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Jake Chambers replied to Jake Chambers's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Do you have suggestions for non-biased data sets and societal analysis? -
Jake Chambers replied to Jake Chambers's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
In my part of the world (Netherlands) Immigrant culture is very materialistic. It’s not just Immigrants, everyone seems to be getting more materialistic here. But Immigrants seem to be invested into it extra. I’m curious to know in which part of the world you live where these cultures are becoming healthier. -
Jake Chambers replied to Jake Chambers's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
And I think it’s a bit strange that you assumed that I think race mixing is evil. I did not say that in my original post, only that it is being pushed on tv and that it is unhealthy fir the current society. I think that might be a projection on your part. It’s not fair to say that I think something is evil when I have not said something like that. You make me sound like a trump supporter which I definitely am not. You assumed i think some evil people are behind the scenes. When I specifically mentioned in my post that I do not believe such secret cabals exist. That does not mean that people in power, for example neoliberals have the power to influence culture in a specific way. It’s more nuanced than you pointed out. -
Jake Chambers replied to Jake Chambers's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Thought Art Thanks for you reply. I do understand that my lack of cultural development definitely has a part in my misunderstanding of the situation. However I think you are also misunderstanding what I mean. My main point is not that advancing up the spiral for the world is bad, I am saying that things should be conserved and nurtured until they are healthy and to then progress forward in a slow, controlled manner. It seems like the neoliberals are misusing these progressive values for their own agendas, using said values as a guise to fool people that they are for the progression of society. You can say something which seems very highly spirally developed, such as that races do not exist, but this is actually quite unpractical and untrue in a society still at stage orange that definitely thinks races do exist. Even though it is an illusion, society itself is an illusion so we still have to act like a lot of things are real because these illusory things have very real consequences to the lives of people. I understand for example that races don’t exist and I do not think it is evil that black and white people have babies. I think in a thousand years there will be only one phenotype because all races will mix and I’m not against that. But according to your logic critical race theory is false because races do not exist. However critical race theory states that while it is true that races do not exists, the social construct of races are so ingrained in society that they are practically very real. This is a very correct analysis of race in my view. So my point is that in the current stage of society to have interracial relationships might be detrimental because it undermines the reality of the current problems with race and it is a detriment to both races to do it. What I’m saying is that it it’s best to have all races first become healthy within their own internal cultures before they start mingling. Just like a man and a woman should both not be mentally ill when being together because they will mix and transfer their problems to eachother. I think you are underestimating the relational problems men and women are facing nowadays in all races, which is believe is fueled by materialist and neoliberal rhetoric. Immigration is not evil to me. But in the current stage of society it seems clear to me that a lot of friction is caused by it. Also for the immigrants themselves. Even if I was a stage coral wizard it would not change the fact that the current society are not ready for this level of integration and breakdown of culture. I think there It is also not completely correct that black people did not have traditional family values. Black kids not growing up with a father has increased substantially in the last decades, black marriages used to be a lot more common in the 60s. If you look at black cultural outlets like for example @spiritualword on instagram, you’ll notice that there is some kind of relational war going on between black women and black men. This is not only a direct consequence of ingrained racism in the US but also a very cultural, materialistic thing pushed by many cultural factors. Take for example Megan Thee Stallion, a prominent and rising star in black culture, who encourages young women to “get their hoe on” and “not give a fuck about no man”. Do you really think this is healthy for the black community? Stars like her and Cardi B are being pushed by mainstream tv etc. and they all seem to be part of the Neo-Liberal lobby and network. There are many other examples of this. Do you really think it strange that I then think that the Neo-Liberals don’t give a fuck about traditional family values being the norm? When I think we all agree that healthy families are the backbone of a healthy community. Your arguments that many people fall outside of the family norms does not mean a lot. Of course gay etc people exist and should have all rights and shouldnt be hated and bigoted against. But 90% of people are heterosexual and their family values cause the fabric of communities to be good or bad. Heterosexual reproduction and families are to society what transistors are to computers. =========== But yeah I guess I have a lot of work to do myself in raising my cultural consciousness. But that does not mean all those issues I discussed are unreal because most of the people in the world are at cultural and epistemological stages way below me, so it kind of defeats your point. -
Jake Chambers replied to UpperMaster's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is false. Free will is real and this has been revealed to me in a very profound and deep awakening. Sorry to sound so arrogant but that is what you get in spiritual debates like this. -
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Jake Chambers replied to Matthew85's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dreams are a real reality -
Lol.
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@Tyler Robinson I definitely agree with you that it's best to change that attitude. I am just saying that the masculine core of each man holds a great love for the divine feminine, and that many dysfunctional thought patterns and behavioural patterns typical to men stem from this great love and respect for the feminine. I am pointing this out to you because i sense from your reactions a downplaying of the importance for men of feminine sexual energy and judgment (a woman giving sex to a man is the most positive judgement she can give him). I am not justifying disfunctional incel behaviour, I am just highlighting the deep emotional core that men have towards this. Women have a better inherent system of self-love. Men require a lot more love from the outside because their internal self-love system is less developed by evolutionary design. men had to be ruthless killers throughout history to protect their family, so they had to cut themselves off from their own love. But they still desire it greatly. Like I said a woman's love is the highest good for a man's emotional core, because he values women so much, a woman's love literally is a man's own divine love reflected back at him. Women need less of this reflecting from their partners because their own internal self love system is much more developed than a mans. So what i am pointing out is that changing this attitude is definitely needed for men to solve this issue, just like you said. I'm just stating that for a men this goes a lot deeper than simply changing your attitude to food for example. A man has to take responsibility for his own self love to do this which is generally very hard to do for men. Like I said men are like children still when it comes to self love while women are inherently developed much more in this. To say you have to simply change your attitude about this to a man is like a man saying to a woman, "just bench 200lbs bro." I can do it easily. But yeah we basically agree. I just wished more women knew how much love us men really have for women deep inside. I have been a total mysoginist criminal asshole in my life and it was all because my own self esteem, how deep down behind all the demonic hate and ego I felt about that women didn't love me while i had so much love for them. Changing myself from this was the hardest thing I've done in my life.
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I almost went insane because of it, and you as a woman do not realise how much a lack of sex influences a mens self-esteem. You as a woman do not know the proper psychological dynamics to handle and integrate the male sexual desire. "I have male friends (not to mention boyfriends) and a few of them don't have a girlfriend yet and I can tell you they aren't dying. They are focused on their careers much more than their romantic lives." Why do you think they are building their careers? to get laid. "I can tell you they aren't dying" "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." - Henry David Thoreau "Sex can wait" It's not about the sex, but about the woman's approval. Sexual desire from a woman is the biggest approval a man can get, because women are in the eyes of men the most beautiful things in creation. A man's self worth, when he is still attached to his sexual desires, is mostly based on how women view them. I know you as a woman don't realise this because you are vulnerable and sensible in different ways than men. But a man's vulnerability lies in if and in the way a woman loves him. In this way a man respects a woman more than she respects herself, for he sees and feels her judgement, love and conscious recognition as the highest, most divine arbiter in the universe.
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And remember bro whatever you do, it's not your fault women do not like you. They are extremely selfish creatures just like men, and have become a lot more selfish in the last decades, through many cultural things. With extremely selfish role models like Kylie Jenner and Megan Thee Stallion young women have been deceived and a veil of demonic illusion has been placed before their eyes, from which they will only realize the cost later in their life. The current time is just a very shitty time culturally in the west. It's nobodies fault really, but just a demonic cycle going through our collective consciousness until we can appreciate the angelic energies again.
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READ THIS POST - MY STORY HAS VALUE FOR YOUR LIFE It's a tough world bro. If women don't like you, you should not value them so much as to still pursue them in such hard manners. Why would you have to go through all the menial hoops of society and unconscious, almost demonic self betterment just to get women to like you, when you are in fact already so worthy? Like you said, you take care of yourself, have interests and hobbies but women still don't give a fuck about you, and leave you in the dust like are you don't even exist at all. There is some partial truth in the incel ideology that this is because of the emancipation of women. Giving women all the freedom, economic possibilities and cultural praise to pursue their sexual interests in complete disregard to the structure of society has caused women to cater to the highest specimens of men in the world, not only looks wise, but also status, influence and wealth, with status being the most value raising. However, I am going to state a theorem that has also contributed to the current hypergamy situation, and it is actually something that men have done, and not women: The dissolution of the uniformity of men in western civilisation, has created a disparity and competition between men, in where men are either raised to the top or dragged down to the bottom. What this means is that while it is true that in the current hypergamy, women go after the most high value men in disproportionate ratios, the uniformity of the total group of men have caused these "high value" and "low value" men to even exist in the first place. We as men have increased competition and individualism between ourselves, causing our perceived values to polarize. We as men, have decided there exists losers (ugly janitors) and winners (handsome bankers), and women's judging of the value of men is only a reflection of these competitive and polarizing values that we as men have enforced in our society. Men used to be more uniform, for example in the 1950s. All men wore the same (literally a uniform), namely a suit. Religion and morals were more at play. Men had respect for each other. Of course you still had the "chads" and "virgins" of that time, but it was less polarized. Whereas a chad nowadays can fuck 30 women in one week if he wants to, and our most bottom losers literally are virgins till they die, it used to be that a chad in the 1950s got married at 25 and that woman would of course think herself as lucky, but said chad was then placed out of the dating/sex market. and the losers of the 1950s would get married eventually, probably to a less attractive woman than chad, but compare that to now where the bottom men literally have nothing. The degeneration of traditional values when considering sex, dating and marriage has caused this situation to exist, and both men and women are to blame. ========================= I will leave you with the consideration of two options, that I will list out in a moment. This is the very fork in the road that I stood on a few years ago. I know how you feel. One is to go super hard on raising your value and chasing after girls. You know exactly what I mean. Getting more money, getting more status, becoming a better manipulator, becoming shredded, doing everything you can in your life to become high value, and then attracting the girls you want and can at your level. It is like playing an RPG like Skyrim, you do everything for yourself and to gain everything for yourself, leveling up your character and attaining material riches, with the disregard for others and sensitivity to holism. The second one is to be an ascetic and walk the spiritual path. This is to detach from your sexual desires and become a yogi, and living your life in accordance to spiritual values. simple as that. I have stood exactly before this fork in the road a few years ago. I was a bitter young man who lost his virginity to a prostitute, was doing some criminal things, and bitter at the world and women for being like this. Like you I read into incel ideology and realized there was truth to it and the hypergamy idea. So I had this vision of my life to raise my value so high, so extremely high that I would be in the top 0.01% of men. to make more than a 100 mil, and have a lot of status and power. Mind you I wanted to be an extreme criminal, In my dreams setting up cybercriminal enterprises (I had the technical understanding and methodological knowledge to) and reinvesting into drugs, and hiring street criminals to be my goons, giving me not only money but also status and power in the streets. Like i said i was already in that environment and mindset at the time. I basically wanted to be a crime boss and If I had chosen that path I would now have been it or already dead or in jail. I saw before me the choice to go on this path, I was so angry and bitter that I didn't care about the consequences to myself to be dead or in jail, or the consequences that my crimes would have had on other people. I basically had before me the most extreme and demonic version of the first option that I gave you, the option to raise your value as a man. My self-confidence and self-image was so low that I thought I had to do everything in my power to raise my value up, and that leaving any room for morals would just decrease my results and remind me of my own perceived incompetence and low self-esteem. Also my vision that women had no morals in their hypergamy and that the world was almost void of morals anyway (in my eyes at the time) made me think, "why should I then have any morals?" But in the contemplation of this vision I knew I was choosing to be a demon if I went this way. I was not rationalising that I would be good. The question really became, "Is becoming a demon worth chasing these material possessions?" Of course a part of any human actually takes joy in doing evil things. But I just knew the concept of a higher self meant something real, mostly through my youtube watching of the RSD evolution, and other self development and some spiritual videos, and even Leo's videos. (thanks Leo) I wasn't really into it at that time that much, it was more of a pasttime activity to just watch these video while being high, but this concept of development was alive in some way in my mind. I contemplated the end of my life of my successful crime boss vision of life. I envisioned having made 100s of millions, then quitting my criminal enterprises and laundering and investing my money in legit businesses while still keeping my street contacts and goons. I would fuck a lot of models and club sluts while blowing my money in clubs and just being and allround asshole. Even when transitioning to legit business It would still only revolve around making profit just like how bankers think. I would then marry some hot girl and get a huge house and raise kids, get them to the best schools while I would just travel the world, fuck whores and not let anyone fuck with me. eventually become old and die and pass on my wealth to my kids. I Just realized, Is that it? is this what I'm going to risk my life and freedom for, and damage and hurt other people and take their wealth for? just that I can be some fat mafioso millionaire with a trophy wife? To sacrifice all morals and humane sensitivity for? Then I realized, this isn't it. This vision of life is shit. But this didn't solve my problem. Because what was right about the crime boss life vision is that it was extremely competitive. At least it allowed me to rise up the ranks and gain access to hot women, and give houses and wealth to my family and friends, and allow me to have children and pass on wealth to them. And even though I decided that a life of crime and wealth wasn't for me, I was now stuck where I began, with an extreme bitterness and resentfulness to women and the world. That's when I entered a deep depression because I had realised I didn't want to be evil, but this would not protect me from the evils of others and society. My evil life vision had only been a search for the protection of the evils of others. I did not want to be rejected by beautiful yet hypergamous females, I did not want to be walked over by other men, I did not want to be a financial loser, so being a criminal fixed all of these things. Now that I had rejected this vision of life and rejected the disregarding of morality, my vision of the future and self-image became a lot more vulnerable to the things I was already fearing and suffering from. I also did not find out my new values, even though I had lost my old materialistic ones, I was not yet familiar with spiritual values and spiritual life possibilities. In this depression I found out a lot more about spirituality and started listening to many teachers, and started learning about magic mushrooms. In mushroom trips I found a new vision for life and seen the possibilities of the spiritual riches that can enter your consciousness, and that your consciousness is. The catch was that I of course still desired sex with women, and with the hottest women of course. The karma of having had entertained such an extreme materialistic vision of life left me constantly thinking back of it, and being angry at the thought of not having the hottest women. Thoughts like, "Maybe I can still get laid with some women, but in my old vision of life I would have access to the hottest women, even though I would be an evil dick! life is so unfair! Maybe I should go back to my old vision and start up my criminal schemes again." My ego was so unsatisfied and still so resentful at women that it constantly thought back of my prior vision and criminal incel mentality. That is when I realised that in my situation, I would have to practically become an ascetic, to completely dislodge my old mentality and karma. I realized that in my life, the desire of women and my radical do or die criminal mentality (which was also born from childhood trauma) had become entangled in such an unhealthy manner that I realised I had to let go of all desire for women, and become ascetic. Because my demonic life vision was so radical I had to create a yogic life vision with equal radicalness. Which I did. I completely changed as a person by committing to the detachment of my desires. In the following years I travelled the world, a lot of it by foot, and did a lot of spiritual practice, and picked up playing guitar and played a lot. Mind you I did have sex with a girl while travelling in India, but this situation was super natural. I just striked up a conversation with her in a town square without demonic intent and she was super into me from the get go. I really respected her for this and it just flowed from there. Like Sadhguru said "Sex in the body is fine, it is when it enters the mind that it becomes a problem". This was a perfect example of that. This was how it always goes for chad, a girl is just super into you and you have sex. For an incel he knows he has to chase girls and win them over which creates this mental resentment which is very unhealthy and can spiral out of control in extreme ways like it almost did for me. My life has been amazing now and I am liberated in so many aspects. I feel Gods love everyday and It feels like I'm free from my earthly bounds, And I have had a lot of deep psych trips and also very peacefully deep sober states of consciousnesses. But I just literally never chase girls and I'm ok if I never have sex again. That is the cost I had to pay for leaving my old demonic life behind and starting a new life. So what is the moral of my story for you and other men? It boils down to this: Your desires control your life. Most men live only for sex. Almost all men have a demonic life vision just like I had. I just had a very radical one. But everyone who wants to be succesful, to get money, to get status, its basically the same as wanting to be a crime boss. It's just a matter of degree. A banker has a legal job, yes, but is basically a legal mafioso who makes a lot of money and fucks beautiful women and thinks hes better than everyone. A doctor who wants status and money and a house with a wife still basically has the same values of a crime boss. It's just a matter of degree of morality, in the end he wants to have sex with beautiful women, thats it. even though he of course is a lot more functional in society, he heals people. but that is just a side effect, the ego is so much more important to humans. and the dark part is that for many people it is not the morals holding them back from being a lot more demonic than they are at the moment, but their lack of balls, and fear that they will go to jail and will be rejected by society and their family. the only reason most men build up their careers and live their entire lives in the way that they do is to fuck the hottest women they can fuck and remain as unconscious as they can be about it. It's just that some men are more unconscious, dark triad and radical than others. that's literally it. I just explained almost all of human history to you. Almost all conquering of lands, of war, of slavery, of society has all been men chasing after the hottest sex and nice houses and resources. All of history is basically a bunch of incels not wanting to be incels. I'm not saying men are evil for this, this is just the drive of desire and I have actually just explained almost all evil in the world to you. It's just to get laid with hot women and have more resources. This is not a misantrophic essay! I am not saying humans are evil. I am just saying human lives are mostly driven by selfish action like any other creature on this planet. and chasing sex is the biggest chase of all. And If hypergamy has become so bad, having you waste so much energy and time on chasing and manipulating women that wouldn't want you in the first place, isn't that just the biggest waste of life? So I advice you to consider soft asceticism in your life, which is to be ascetic and not chase sex unless a girl is just super into you and it flows naturally. and also not fap. Of course in the first world this means basically never getting laid. So try travelling the world and just meet a lot of people. And if it doesn't work it it's ok. You have to be completely OK with never having sex or children in your life again. I know it's a hard decision mentally to make but it does level you above the samsaric game of survival that we as human apes are playing. But asceticism truly saved my life. Hypergamy and dating and sex being so hard for you just leverages the spiritual ascetic life to be of less cost to you because you are losing less anyway. And consider the other option, what is your equivalent of the demonic life vision, of being a crime boss like I wanted to be? It's probably better than my demonic vision, but in essence it's the same. It's sacrificing spiritual values to raising your societal and material value in life to get laid with more and hotter women. Of course, you would want to know, Isn't there a way in between? Isn't there a way to raise your sexual marketplace value but still maintain spiritual values and personal and spiritual development and not get lost in the karma of sexual desire? Yes there is, but the question is do you want to take it?. In my case, the option was not there because the demonic pull towards my demonic life vision was so strong that I had to make the radical decision to become ascetic, to completely let go of this past karma that I had. This "in between vision" is basically the vision that Leo follows and wants you to follow. His philosophy is as follows: You can be spiritual but there is no escaping the desires and everyday situations of survival. In some way it is true, you still have to eat etc. But I would still disagree with him. Because there is a way to transcend your desires and live a completely spiritual life, meaning there is an escaping of desires possible. Also, do you really want to chase women? To go on 1000s of approaches to only get laid a handful times? to go through so much bullshit that women who are out have to say, just to get in their pussy? You are basically saying, I'm worth so little, and women are worth so much, that I am going by them one by one like a beggar begging you for a quarter. Some people just like it, and like Leo says, you do become a great at socialising. But it's still just a game of manipulation. Also keep in mind, Leo's only spiritual practices are doing psychedelics, meaning he doesn't feel the need to transcend the material life in his sober day to day life with the excuse that his trips are already so deep. But do you really want to be like this? To tell everyone that you are the most awake human ever, To tell everyone they are God and imagined their parents , constantly critiquing and calling out other people's bullshit, but still hit the weekend going out sarging like this? : I would not. But that is just me. I am just trying to show you, there is tremendous possibility in asceticism. I had to do it because of all of my problems, so I am not saying you have to. But if women don't like you anyway like you said, the cost of asceticism becomes so much lower and i am telling you bro, the benefits are so great. And if you decide to still chase women and chase raising your material value, how demonic will you become in the process? How much of your, time, energy spiritual potential will you waste, just to get laid? Do you want to be like this or this? or this picture of leo of above? Yes, of course these are only extremes, and yes , there exists an in between. Through my story I have shown you the extremes like the borders of a football field. Now the field is defined for you. Play however you want.
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I thought you were going to watch your language and responsibility as you adressed in your latest video. Also, you have not been publishing videos lately but very deranged content on instagram. You are losing integrity. I’d stop with this before hitting a point of intervention.
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Jake Chambers replied to UpperMaster's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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I am still trying to figure out his degree of Awokeness, I asked him a question about Consciousness in another thread. But it is clear to me that he is not in the top tier level of this planet, even though he mistakenly thinks he is above all teachers and people. He also stated that all teachers just want to connect with other people and are not hungry for the truth. While it is true that many are not hungry for the truth, it’s a laughable notion that they just want connection and thats it. The number one reason people do spirituality is to end suffering. I’d say that statement has something to with his solipsistic shadow, and projecting the in his mind unreasonable motivation to want to connect with others. The statement reminds me of the meme with the party and that one guy standing in the corner, in this case saying “they don’t even know they are Alone”. Leo thinks he is above all people because he is the only one who dares to give up connection and a sense of “Other” in the pursuit of truth. Even though that is false, many spiritual seekers doubt others existing. But he thinks that they would never dare and he is the only one heroic enough to do so. Zoom out on his entire life and teachings and posts and it becomes easy to spot where his shadows lie.
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@Bojan V Careful about listening to Leo’s claim that all other teachings are dream teachings inside of the dream, implying that his teaching is outside of the dream. When in fact his teachings are also inside the dream and not higher but actually lower than many teachings I could list. Leo is Awake, but not to the degree he compares himself to other teachers he doesn’t find Awake, not by a long shot. Just like Leo I have done a lot of psychedelic contemplation trips which have become profound beyond words, going magnitudes deeper than the trip before. He is right that real deep tripping requires a lot of prior trips, and that for example your 150th trip’s depth can never ever be reached or even imagined that there could be such a trip, in your first 100 trips. However he is simply wrong about many claims about reality and God that he makes. I am saying that I and others are more Awake than Leo. Leo says there are none more Awake than him. Believe what you want. But it is simply my job to tell the truth when faced with falsehood. I am not saying that Leo is a con, I am saying he has fallen in some epistemological and spiritual traps and is just wrong and deluded about some very core things. I know he wouldn’t like me saying these things but it is simply true. One day he’ll understand.
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Jake Chambers replied to Nathan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That is also what my intuition tells me, but consider an incarnation of god into a finite avatar which is invincible, making the death of this avatar impossible. Could such a thing be possible?