Lila9

I don't know, the persecution of gays and women is pretty extreme. Women and gays get murdered even in relatively moderate Muslim environments. I see this happening a lot in the Muslim villages surrounding me. A woman was killed by her brothers because she was gay, another woman was killed by her husband because she wanted a divorce. A trans woman was severely beaten by her relatives because she brought "shame" to the family and had to escape the village, hiding her entire life. I don't need the news to tell me this, I listen to the stories of Muslims who grew up in this environment. If it's happening in a democratic country like mine, where there are consequences to murder, especially if it's based on gender and sexual orientation, it must be worse in the rest parts of the middle east and Africa where women and gay rights don't exist.

There are beautiful and healthy aspects in Islam which I can see in Muslims that don't differ from the beautiful and healthy aspects of other stage blue religious people like Christians and Jews. However, the toxic aspects in Islam heavily overshadow the healthy ones, on the global scale, and unfortunately, the political correctness of the western world falling to realize it and to address it.

If you hang in a social media pro-Palestinian echo chamber, you wouldn't see this:

When 3000 UNRWA teachers in Gaza celebrating the October 7 massacre. People who supposed to be role models for the future generation. https://unwatch.org/group-of-3000-unrwa-teachers-celebrates-hamas-massacre-and-rape/

Ok, I suppose I am one of these people you refer to. I would say to my defense that I experience people demonizing Israel disproportionately and I respond to that because from my perspective these claims are absurd. I would love to hear how you suggest to communicate here, how a discussion in the standards of this forum should look like, and maybe also give some examples from this thread of what comments you consider as pushing bias VS legitimate comments. It also would be nice if you share your meta view of this conflict in a few points, assuming you studied it well, I want to learn and see what I'm missing.

Ohh I saw it just now, didn't receive a notification, my apologies 🙂 I ate dry fruits if this counts, how about you? That's ok, tell me tomorrow, have a good night!

This is beautifully written, thank you for sharing.

We know who our enemies are, we know their true colors, not the ones they show to the woke western pacifists who glued to BBC and AJ.

Understanding the cultures is crucial in understanding this conflict.

Teal's video about today's "woke" culture is relvent than ever.

Why Qatar funding US universities? https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/bjldya2qa That explains why these "woke" educated students in the US support Islamist terrorism and rationalize it, they are literally funded and brainwashed by pro- terrorists across the world. https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4328440-pro-terrorist-cash-is-funding-us-higher-ed-and-taxpayers-should-be-upset-about-it/ https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/funding-from-arab-countries-us-universities-raises-questions-almost-always-come-strings-attached

I agree, this is very important. This is the real key to change. Someone should take positive ownership of them. All these human rights organizations, including UNRA, who hang there could do that, but instead, they covertly cooperate with Hamas and other Islamist terrorist organizations that indoctrinate these children and put guns in their hands. Many social justice warriors in the world speak in the name of these children, as if they really care about them, but none of the adults among them aim to protect them from Hamas and the toxic ideology that creates generations of terrorists. They simp, glorify and idealize these Islamists in their head, see them as heros and as legitimate freedom fighters, as if rape and killing babies is a legitimate act of freedom. Instead of blaming Israel for defending itself against terrorists, which puts the future generation of Palestinians in countinoius suffering for them and for Israel, someone should hold these terrorists accountable for their anti-Israel, antisemitic, and Islamist toxic ideology, not to mention their horrific October 7 crimes. If there is no one in the world who can stand against them, they shouldn't be surprised if Israel does that. If they don't like the way Israel does that, they can go and do it themselves.

https://www.jns.org/210-congress-members-denounce-south-africas-genocide-charge/ 210 Congress members denounce South Africa’s genocide charge The letter notes that while South Africa barely acknowledged the Hamas terrorists “who gleefully massacred, mutilated, raped, and kidnapped innocent civilians” on Oct. 7, it made “grossly unfounded and defamatory charges against Israel on the world stage.” Calling it an abuse of the judicial process to delegitimize Israel, the letter goes on to state that to charge the Jewish state with genocide is “particularly cynical given that the term ‘genocide’ was coined following the murder of six million Jews in the Holocaust.” “We vigorously denounce South Africa’s deeply hostile stance towards Israel and thoroughly reject its charge of genocide,” it continues, urging the Biden administration to continue to oppose the trial.

I had a nice tea break at that time. Maybe you need to sharpen your telepathic skills... Thank you, that's a nice start, maybe if you could replace the word 'propaganda' with 'truth' that could be more respectful. I was sarcastic.

The Saudi price says about Iran's leader Khamenei: "He wants to expend, he wants to create his own project in the ME, very much like Hitler who wanted to expend at that time".

Israeli Arabs are moderate. There are radicals but not enough to create big mess inside Israel. Palestinians in WB and Gaza are more radical and it is not a good fit with the Jews radicals in Israel. Both Muslims and Jews are not conscious enough to have a state which is equally Muslim and Jewish, both have different values and belief systems. Israel and Palestine should agree on basic values and things to coexist in one state, in reality, they are very far from agreement. In general, both Israelies and Palestinians are traumatized from each other so living face to face is not a good idea. Why not live under Palestinians? Reality proves that it's not safe for Jews to live under Muslim government, even if it's not that religious. And there are barely any Jews in Muslim countries (except Azarbajan which supports Israel). While the opposite, Muslims under a Jewish goverment, proves itself safe, Muslims thrive in Israel, especially the Muslim women. There are literally queer Muslims in TLV, who feel safer among Jews in TLV rather than among Muslims in their birth village, that alone says a lot. Two state solution could be good if they proved themselves safe and not wanting to destroy Israel. It's up to them to show they invest their money to develop themselves rather than in weapons to destroy Israel. Otherwise, Israel would do everything to secure itself from them. Iran is threatening to destroy Israel for years, they are funding Hamas. What could grantee that they will not attack Israel once they gain a state, what could grantee they stop hate us once they get a state if their real goal is to destroy us completely. Netanyahu in the UN about Iran's threats-

The elderly woman speaks the true about Hamas and the Al Jazeera Journalist tries to twist her words:

If you support Islamic fundamentalism so eagrly, don't be surprised if...

I don't think that it was reasonable for European Jews, which were educated and more developed than the Palestinians to be an under a Palestinian goverment. Those people came to the conclusion that the best solution is to built a state of their own, in their native land, in which they wouldn't be at the mercy of any nation. Because history proved that living under someone else in control isn't safe. They could build a state together with the Palestinians, but they didn't agree on the most basic things and didn't share the same values, so this wasn't possible. Still isn't. And thanks God there is an Israeli state with a strong army. Better to lose thostands of people, but having a state and a strong army, rather than loosing millions of people and being in the mercy others, without any protection. I think that even if Israel was built in Uganda or elsewhere in the world, someone would have something to say about it or would have tried to fight it.

IDF confirmed that they are looking for Israelies corpses in those cemeteries. People Hamas kidnapped and killed in captivity, their bodies should to be returned to their families in Israel. Don't worry, they will put everything in place, if that's bothering you.

No, I want it to remain Islam. There is enough Americanization in the world and the Islamic culture has its own beauty which I don't want to go away. But I want it to be a more sane and conscious form of Islam in its approach to human rights and Israel, this exists among many Muslims, but not as a collective.

I'm in love with the Sweden song, loved the performance too!

Yes!

This reminds me the iconic performance (including the dance) of Noa in the Eurovision show: