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Is that something that we need to just accept quietly? Like, you talked about how corrupted society is and how untruthful it is, how power works, and how men systematically don’t believe women. What do we do with that information? Aren’t there better ways to organize and resolve the problems we deal with? Socoety may not be collectively conscious enough or thoughtful enough to give up on the current structure yet, but at some point it will get to a dead end with it. It is already touching that dead end, and we will have the choice to evolve and do better or to collapse or regress. Harari said in Sapiens that humans evolved because of our ability to imagine and cooperate, and we lived like that for millions of years. The violent turn is something relatively new in our history, starting in agriculture, when we adapted a scarcity mindset due to the increase in population. But now we have resolved the scarcity problem through all this brutal journey of building civilization, and we have abundance, but we are still stuck in the scarcity mindset. It is masochistic and sadistic to actively support it or turn a blind eye of it.

Of course, this is very unconscious. But they are dealing with people who are no more conscious either. I mean, Christianity and Islam are the largest religions in the world and have been responsible for the killing of millions.

Humans made up all the other religions, it can be said about anything. The Jewish identity is just one identity trying to survive among other identities that are trying to survive as well. It is not more false than Islam or Christianity or Scientology or Buddhism.

It feels real enough for us to define it. Dark and light are experienced as real enough to be defined as dark and light, and they have real consequences in our lives. For us, as beings immersed in the separation of illusion, it is real enough. We also need it to survive. We need to define things like safety versus danger in order to survive. Are contradictions absolutely real? I suppose not.

I didn't say that everything would be perfect. I said that there is a solution to the problem you mentioned in the post. It is not about women ruling; it is just a replacement for a collapsing system. I am not blaming all the problems on men. Though men are largely complicit with the system that exploits women, this is not about hating men for the sake of it. Please read my previous posts, I explained why patriarchy and matriarchy differ. Matriarchy is not about women dominating men, such thinking is just a myopic patriarchal projection. Is it legitimate to force women into motherhood? Women who may have other aspirations in life? Who may not want to be mothers? Who may be bad or harmful mothers? This is what happens in more primitive patriarchal societies like in the ME and Africa. this is wrong to force women to give birth. The point is, patriarchy is not sustainable for the lives of women and children. It either forces birth rates or creates unbearable conditions for mothers and children to live, because at its very core, it is about the father’s dominance over women, children, and everything else. Why not create a society in which women are not forced to have children, but those who do want to will have all the conditions to do so? Such a society would be more matriarchal by default, because it values motherhood and children over the father’s dominance and control. That doesn’t mean the oppression of men, quite the opposite. It allows men to truly be men and protect and nurture their communities, rather than stepping on them as they are currently encouraged to do in our patriarchal world. Toxic masculinity is rewarded more than healthy masculinity today.

Patriarchy values hierarchy and dominance, which fuels the corrupted spirit you are talking about. People with those traits, like narcissists and psychopaths, are rewarded in such a system- unsustainable for life. Maybe when patriarchy was “young,” about 10,000 years ago, during the transition from a more matriarchal structure to a patriarchal structure, it was more sustainable for life. There are still cultures with traces of this era that preserved some matriarchal values. But as the dark ages came and it evolved into what we know today as neo-liberalism, it is no longer sustainable for life. We can create something hybrid, something unique, but it requires more “stage yellow and above” individuals in positions of power. As of today, however, we need more matriarchy. I have idealistic and visionary qualities, so I can imagine a better world vividly. My goal is not to go to extremes for the sake of it, but to think about systems that are beneficial for all and practically resolve the problems we are dealing with, like declining birth rates. I understand that you, like many men, may have some rejection of the word “matriarchy” because of unresolved misogyny. But I would like to clarify that this does not mean women rule. Often, men are just afraid that women will treat them the way men have treated women for the last thousands of years. However, please refer to the work of the woman I posted earlier, and you will see that matriarchy is not about women ruling. It is simply an acknowledgment that mothers are the beginning, and that building a community around raising healthy, strong, and educated children creates a stronger and better society. This also includes wise women and men in positions of leadership who are pro-communal and true leaders, not anti-social. It does not force women or men to conform to strict gender roles. It does not force women into motherhood but provides all the conditions necessary for those who do choose to become mothers. It also may work better in small communities of up to 100 people rather than in bigger numbers.

This is because of cultural pressure and tradition (patriarchal), which is not good either. It just creates more traumatized and poor children. Statistics show that 1 in 4 children in Israel is poor.

I see. I will check your work. I just want to clarify: I didn't say that just because the illusion of separation feels real, it means that this is the absolute truth. As I see it, the illusion of separation feels real enough for most living organisms to perceive it as the sole reality and forget about the unity (the absolute truth or part of it). Which is why survival and the absolute truth can be contradictory (though I am not sure to what extent).

I don’t know. May be just a hallucination, which is what the illusion of separation might be. But it feels real enough to believe in it and perceive it as real.

😢 I’m sleep deprived.

It may be “just” concepts. But as I see it, the illusion of separation is a real experience that we feel, even if we are not really separated. We strongly feel this illusion as the reality, unless we are high or in some ecstasy, joy, or in a love state.

Yes, I agree that it’s God’s creation and that it is divine and intelligent, doing its experiences and play, and it is as it is. But I think that survival itself requires us to forget that we are not really separated and that we are all God. Survival requires us to forget about the absolute truth in order to sustain the illusion of separation. This is not to deny that there are relative truths within survival and less and more awakened parts of God.

The absolute truth may be that we are one, not separate (the illusion of separation), that we are consciousness/awareness manifesting/imagining physicality rather than the opposite, and that God is creating infinitely. This may be the main thing, and it is actually very simple and easy to understand, we all know it. The issue is that humans, especially philosophers, don’t try to integrate this into their lives and are lost in endless theoretical intellectualization. This is why philosophy and constant intellectualization is not the end game. The end game is to transcend it and literally to embody the “Truth”. Live it.

I think that the point is not to let survival distract us from the truth. In an attempt to survive, we may do untruthful and corrupt things. However, I don’t think that survival is bad either. Our body is a vehicle and our emotions are messages. We can use them wisely to access truth (through intuition). This is something that many philosophers who are detached from their bodies are missing.

I love this thread and it’s so lovely to see your pets 😍 I have mixed-breed girl and boy. They are my life.

You are right. Still, I prefer to keep the human stuff in my journal.

Thank you so much. I promise 🥺 I am HSP which is both a gift and a curse…

I don’t like to disturb them with my nonsensical human life 😔

I think that it’s conformist to talk only to humans. If you go out on the street and talk to plants or animals, people will look at you weirdly. I’m not talking about casual stuff like “oh, how beautiful” or “how cute.” I’m talking about serious or deep conversations.

Yes, it may be faster than usual this time.

Patriarchy is about the domination of fathers, while matriarchy is not about domination at all. Matriarchy is about cooperation. This is more natural to humans and this is the reason we are so powerful. Because of our ability to cooperate. If you look at the diagram I shared above, patriarchy is more like a pyramid, while matriarchy is more like a sphere. The architecture of matriarchy is more friendly toward sustainable life and does not include the oppression of any group, unlike patriarchy. Children are the true foundation of society, and society is better built on them rather than on capital. I believe that we have come to the point where patriarchy has become so unsustainable for human life that it naturally collapses. This is why birth rates will continue to decline until society changes toward a more matriarchal structure. This will happen gradually. It may take hundreds of years. The balance between individualism and collectivism can exist in matriarchy. Like in patriarchy, there are more individualistic patriarchal societies and more collectivistic ones. While matriarchy is more inclined toward collectivism, it doesn’t have to be absolute collectivism (like purple).

Look where we are now: living in a world controlled by pedophilic, greedy, psychopathic, narcissistic, and misogynistic men who destroy the earth. This is patriarchy for you. This is not sustainable for human life or any animal we share space with. I don’t understand the positives of patriarchy you stated; can you please elaborate more on them? Masculinity can definitely exist in a matriarchal society and is part of it. The main distinction between masculinity in a patriarchal vs. matriarchal society is that masculinity in a patriarchal society is exploitative and dominating, while in a matriarchal society it is protective and nurturing, which is the healthy form of it. Ideally, masculinity should be channeled for the benefit of the community, not against it.

@Nivsch Thank you, Niv. You too, stay safe! I wish us better days ahead. We deserve it.

In those areas, like the Middle East and Africa, women are forced to marry and have children. If not by physical force, then by social pressure. Singlehood is seen as a threat. It is also more difficult and dangerous to survive as a single woman in those areas. Iceland, despite having more equality, still has a patriarchal framework. There is not country in the world without a patriarchal framework. In the West, women have the choice and they choose not to, especially since men are more likely to believe in oppressing gender roles, while women are more likely to reject them and believe in gender equality. This is why conservatives in countries like America would like to take reproductive rights away from women and do not support welfare for single mothers with children. They want to force women back into oppressive gender roles, where they are reliant on men for survival and expected to have children. Many people don't understand that patriarchy is built like a pyramid scheme. Those on top are dependent on the unpaid labor of those at the bottom. The motherhood and care labor women do is the most important labor there is, without this labor, society would crumble. However, this is the most underpaid labor. If the patriarchal system were to start paying women what they deserve for their care labor, the patriarchy would crumble, and the economy as we know it would no longer exist, which is exactly why motherhood and women's labor are underpaid. This is not a bug, this is a feature. This is patriarchy trying to preserve itself. Women and mothers can only be properly supported and appreciated in a non-patriarchal society, which is built more like a sphere than a pyramid. Everyone gets enough for their survival. There is no need to hoard at the expense of anyone. This, of course, can't be achieved in a red-blue-orange society. It can only happen in green and above. Now, we are at a crossroads. Patriarchy is crumbling and killing itself because it was never a sustainable structure to begin with. And so, all the ideas related to patriarchy like capitalism, dominance, control, and materialism can't sustain a healthy society for humans. This is why the birth rate will continue to declain until radical change happens, such as gradually moving towards a more matriarchal structure. You may refer to the work of this woman on matriarchy. This is very likely the future of humanity if we are to survive these dark ages. The true foundation of society is children, not captial: https://substack.com/@nergiz/p-170760646 Humans are matriarchal species: https://lettersfromayoungmatriarch.substack.com/p/humans-are-a-matriarchal-species?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 Patriarchy created the conditions for epshtein: https://substack.com/@nergiz/p-187509057 Why a system of "father rule" can never be caring: https://substack.com/@nergiz/p-165541193

Short answer: patriarchy. Longer answer: society punishes motherhood, underestimates it, and underappreciates it. There is no incentive to be a mother, only cons. It takes a village to raise a child. But now one woman is expected to do it alone, in addition to working in a regular job.