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Everything posted by Lila9
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If you support Islamic fundamentalism so eagrly, don't be surprised if...
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I don't think that it was reasonable for European Jews, which were educated and more developed than the Palestinians to be an under a Palestinian goverment. Those people came to the conclusion that the best solution is to built a state of their own, in their native land, in which they wouldn't be at the mercy of any nation. Because history proved that living under someone else in control isn't safe. They could build a state together with the Palestinians, but they didn't agree on the most basic things and didn't share the same values, so this wasn't possible. Still isn't. And thanks God there is an Israeli state with a strong army. Better to lose thostands of people, but having a state and a strong army, rather than loosing millions of people and being in the mercy others, without any protection. I think that even if Israel was built in Uganda or elsewhere in the world, someone would have something to say about it or would have tried to fight it.
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IDF confirmed that they are looking for Israelies corpses in those cemeteries. People Hamas kidnapped and killed in captivity, their bodies should to be returned to their families in Israel. Don't worry, they will put everything in place, if that's bothering you.
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No, I want it to remain Islam. There is enough Americanization in the world and the Islamic culture has its own beauty which I don't want to go away. But I want it to be a more sane and conscious form of Islam in its approach to human rights and Israel, this exists among many Muslims, but not as a collective.
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I'm in love with the Sweden song, loved the performance too!
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Yes!
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This reminds me the iconic performance (including the dance) of Noa in the Eurovision show:
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Yes the beat is awesome, I think that I've seen a translation of the song by someone in the comments on YT.
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They lived in peace, and they didn't live in peace, depending on the time, the area, and the leadership. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Islam I don't think Israel is entirely responsible for creating this hatred. Perhaps the immigration of Jews to Israel and the establishment of the state triggered pre-existing feelings of superiority towards Jews, leading to hatred. They were used to the historical fact that Jews were under their control since the dawn of Islam. And here, what they see is that an inferior group (to Islam) becomes superior, winning a war, establishing a Jewish state, which triggered feelings of humiliation. It certainly hurt Muslim pride and the collective self-image they held, as well as the image they had of Jews in relation to Muslims. The most conscientious solution is not to attack Jews or harbor resentment for their expulsion of Arabs to build a state in a Jewish historical homeland for survival. Instead, it is essential for them to introspect and recognize that Islam have expelled many nations throughout history, committing actions more brutal than what Jews may have done, acknowledge the dirt caused to people in the name of Islam. Acknowledging that Jews also deserve autonomy and one state of their own, while they already have many Muslim states, fostering forgiveness, and moving forward is a path toward understanding, resolution and peace.
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This is the full video clip- Just to make it clear, there is nothing in this song saying to kill all the Palestinians. This is very clear who they are talking about- "Everyone who planned, everyone who supported (the massacre), everyone who carried out (the massacre) everyone who murdered."
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See earlier comments, it was my response to a user living in the middle east who claimed that Israelies are sheep. Which is funny because the Arab world is so much better in practicing sheep mentality. I often see more diverse opinions and critical thinking among Israelies and Jews rather than in Arabs and Muslims.
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They are anti-Israel because this is what is expected from them, any pro-Israeli hint in the Arab world which doesn't match the pro-palestinian narrative is frowned upon and seen as betrayal and may have drastic consecunsess for the individuals and their families. In Gaza and WB it may end up with executions. People are not allowed to express pro-Israel opinions about the conflict or challenge the Palestinians narrative, there is no room for that or for any form of critical thinking.
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Lol, when someone, who doesn't know you, tries to make realistic claims about you but it turns out to be full with lies and projections. At least I had a good laugh. What I just watched is the GOAT of propaganda with the mere purpose for incitement against Israel and Israelies.
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Post the documents here. As I said, in the beginning, Hamas started as a charity whose aim was to bring Muslims closer to religion, this is how they started (Dawah). At this time they committed 0 killings against Israelies, while Fatah (fueled by PLO) was already engaged in terrorism and killed Israelies. For Israel, PLO/Fatah was more dangerous than Hamas at that time. They wanted to get rid of Fatah by supporting Hamas, exploiting that fact that there was an ideological conflict between the two, unaware that Hamas will commit terror attacks in the future.
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As I commented earlier: Supporting Hamas (by Israel) to hurt PLO/Fatah was done strategically before Hamas became dangerous (i.e. strated killing Israelies). Hamas started as an "innocent" religious movement or at least, that's how they presented themselves to Israel at the beginning. Nothing new. At that time when Hamas wasn't dangerous and PLO/Fatah was, it makes sense that Israel wanted to get rid of Fatah by supporting their competitors, Hamas, Which was a huge mistake because it turned out that Hamas was more brutal. I read about this in a book that I talk about a lot here because it's is a very reliable source for understanding the conflict as it was written by Hamas' founder son who was close to the people who were behind the scenes of these historical events. Supported or funded by Israel for stratigical purposes is not the same as created by Israel. Hamas was created by- Muslim Palestinians.
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Israel didn't create it, maybe you wish Israel would have created it so you can blame Hamas on it, because you hate both. You project the devilry if the radical Islamists on Israel.
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This land was called Palestine after being changed by the Romans from Judea, and? There wasn't a Palestinian state at that time, only land named Palestine.
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There is a genetic connection between Jews from different areas of the world, this has been tested. Palestinians claim to be indigious to this land and being here thousands of years while their surnames imply about the history of their families coming from Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, Syria etc. Arafat was born in Egypt but lied he was born in Israel's territory and that he is a Palestinian. Muhammed Deif's real name is Mohammed al-Masri, even though he was born in Gaza, his surname implies that his family originally came from Egypt.
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Supporting Hamas to hurt PLO/Fatah was done strategically before Hamas became dangerous. Hamas started as an "innocent" religious movement or at least, that how they presented themselves to Israel at the beginning. Nothing new. But do Israel responsible to Islamic fundamentalism? Hell no.
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Palestinians are a diverse ethic group, there is no such a thing as Palestine ethnicity. Per their surname it's clear that they came from various countries among the middle east and various tribes. Just because they have some percentage of Cannaties like the Jews, doesn't mean that Israel should be a Muslim state.
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I can understand you and even agree, until your claim that Hamas was created by Israel. It doesn't matter, if it was secular or not. The base of Israel is Jewish, even if the majority are not religious. It is based on Jewish values and tradition. America is a secular country which is based on Christianity, Christian values and tradition, not Judaism, not Islam or Buddhism. Islamic fundamentalism was created in other countries like Egypt and before there was an Israeli state, read history, they called the Muslim Brotherhood. And Hamas was inspired by them, Ahmad Yasin was a Muslim Brotherhood member who founded Hamas with the purpose to be a Muslim Brotherhood brunch in Israel.
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This conflict is between a Jewish and a Muslim state, it doesn't matter what cannaties are and who they were, all humans on earth share the same African ansectores.
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You live in Syria dude, you are highly biased against Israel from birth, the Arab world is known for its sheep mentality. I don't know how brainwashing they did with you there but it seems serious.
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Judaism is older than Islam. There was a Jewish state on this land for a very long time, for a thousands of years, this is why it's a homeland for the Jewish religion which is an ethical group too. Muslims homeland is Saudia.
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People were always forced to give up land, this doesn't justify what they are doing, especially when they receive so much support and money from the world and have many options across the Middle East. Having their own military doesn't guarantee that it wouldn't be used against Israel, it will only make this conflict uglier, as this military probably will cooperate with Iran and other anti-Israel states that have an interest in maintaining this conflict as they aim to destroy Israel.