Lila9

They shouldn't live at all. Give all the land to Palestinians and commit a collective suicide. This is probobly the only way Palestinians would have been satisfied. Fuck facts. Israel is an Apartheid.

All those definitions are wrong and are thrown because it's Israel. If it was Egypt or Jordan in conflict with Palestine, instead of Israel, no one would gave a shit.

Yes, this is the mentality. They are raised with this mentality of radical hatred for Jews and Israel. Many people don't understand this.

How can one perform those surgical solutions if Hamas places their basements in tunnels under hospitals and schools? What else can Israel do? Israel has already instructed the people there to evacuate. Is Israel responsible for the fact that they are not evacuating (due to Hamas orders and death threats)? I personally don't know if what Israel is doing now is the right way to eliminate Hamas or if there is a better way to do so, or if it's even possible. I think that things will become clearer with time. I also agree that killing innocent civilians is not okay, and it's a tragedy on its own. I feel for both sides when it comes to children and non-combatants who have nothing to do with this. But it's also hard for me to believe the propaganda from the Palestinian side and accept this narrative as the only truth. It's difficult to believe that Israel killed 2000 children with bombs in two days. It's hard for me to believe that they bombed them without warning and time to escape. It's hard to believe that Hamas did all they could to protect them and not use them as shields. It's also hard to believe that this is the actual number, that they have already identified 2000 bodies of bombed children in two days. The process of identifying bodies takes some time, not two days, especially if they are rescued from under the demolished buildings. Anyway, regardless of the number, it's a tragedy that these children were born into such a life, in such a situation, with adults who put them in harm's way instead of protecting them and an army that bombs their towns for crimes they didn't commit. "The Son of Hamas," whose father was one of Hamas' founders and who knew them very closely, elaborated on how Hamas cynically uses children and civilians. He also talked about the general mindset that these people are raised with under Hamas leadership. The general mindset is to blame Israel for everything, including their poor conditions that could be improved if the leadership weren't so corrupt. He said that Palestinians and other Arab countries should take Israel as an example rather than blindly hating it. It's a good interview.

Hamas is an Islamic terrorist organization. Its ideology is to eliminate Israel and establish an Islamic state in its place, while also targeting others they consider "sinners." Egypt and Jordan are not currently targeted by Hamas, but they might have been if Israel did not exist. In such a scenario, they could have pursued Shiites, Christians, and other minorities in the Middle East. Hamas was founded by Muslim Brotherhood activists, who advocate for Sunni Islam to dominate the constitution and social life, aiming to establish Islamic states governed by Sharia law in Egypt and other Arab countries. One of their slogans is "Islam is the solution." Hamas shares similarities with the Muslim Brotherhood in its goal of establishing Islamic states but differs in its focus on eliminating Jews and claiming all of Israel for Palestinians under their leadership before targeting others. I prefer a "Jewish supremacist" democratic, liberal, and Western country in the Middle East rather than another Islamic supremacist dictatorship. There are enough of them there, aren't there?

It looks pretty reliable to me. More than Hamas for sure.

I don't believe that if Hamas were to eliminate Israel and establish Palestine in its place, they would suddenly abandon their radical Islamist ideology and work towards peace with America and Europe. Instead, their next step would likely involve committing acts of terror and waging war against those they perceive as opposing their extremist beliefs. Because this is where they at. If you think that Hamas is a secular resistance organization fighting for the rights of Palestinians, I really don't know how to help you, maybe you will realize how radical and dangerous they are once they will commit terror in your town or neighborhood, killing people just because they are Christian from Europe. In fact, one of Hamas' leaders' sons has openly stated that their ultimate goal, after eliminating Israel, is to target individuals they consider 'sinners' across the world.

This is reasonable. It would be crazy, naive and suicidal of Israel to give an independent Palestinian state in the west bank at this level of Palestinians development and Hamas presence.

If there was not this "pathetic fascistic regime" which is a breath of fresh air in the middle east called Israel, Hamas would targeting all the beautiful pro Palestinian souls in Europe and US. They are fools being blinded by antisemitism and not realizing that it's their luck that suicidal terrorists like Hamas are currently focused on Israel and not on them. They should thank to Israel for its mere existence as it saves their asses from crazy terrorists from the middle east.

Country with a long history for Jews is not a weak foundation. Do you know what holocaust is? How come is that Palestinians are increasing in numbers every year and not decreasing? Definitely. They are crazy. Reliability level: the earth is flat.

If we are the same, then go and bitch on them, what do you want from me?

Not tens of thousands years for sure. Hundreds of years yes and they were always constantly immigrating to Israel during this time. I didn't deny it. However, there is no historical evidence of Palestinian country of Muslim Arabs in Israel, but there is evidence of Jews kingdom in Israel. It's not called colonialism if the land was already colonized by Othmans and British Mandate and there wasn't a country called Palestine, and the Zionists bought lands from Arabs who sold it to them. And Ashkenazi Jews share DNA with Canaanites as well, not as much as Oriental Jews but pretty decent precentage.

I will take this as a compliment. I find it astonishing how blindly people support Palestine. I could be one of these people if I wouldn't deeply research about it.I 'm tired of ignorance. You are probobly not seeing well because this is what I do since the beginning of this war.

They are tortured by their own curropted leadership and the dogma their leadership brainwashing them from birth to grantee that they will go and kill Jews for the sake of their radical Islamic beliefs. The UN resulotion is not relevant here as Gaza is not under Israeli occupation and what came from there was a terror attack against innocent Israeli civilians which is a war crime. And if we are talking about legitimate struggle, legitimate struggle is legitimate only if the target is the army of the enemy, not innocent people while they are sleeping in their homes. Legitimate struggle for freeing Palestine is not burning innocent people alive, not raping innocent girls and women, not chopping body parts of innocent people, not doing massacre of thousands of people while live on TikTok, in some white bright day out of no where. Yet, it's justified by pro-palestinian as a legit terror attack while they whine about Israel bombing some parts of Gaza after it asked the civilians 400 times to evacuate from there while Hamas killing them when they are on their way to escape. While Hamas locating themselves under sensitive areas like hospitals and schools knowngly and consciously that they risk innocent civilians. Which is a war crime. While Hamas is still lunching rocket towards Israel and targeting innocent civilians. Which is also a war crime. it doesn't look like a legitimate struggle but pure terror.

I don't think this mentality is necessary but this is because I have fantasy in my mind that all the people regardless their race or beliefs, are living with eachother without borders. While in fact, humanity isn't there yet, it's not peaceful and conscious enough for such global ideas. There is definitely economical globalization and globalization of information but having globalization in practice, with humanity living peacefully as a one united tribe without borders, with no danger to any culture in particular... we are far from there. The history of Jews taught them that they must have their own country and it seems still relevant today because there is still lots of antisemitism in the world. Humanity scapegoated a few cultures and one of them is the Jewish culture.

Colonial project by a nationalistic Jewish movement in an already colnialized land by the Othmans and then by the British. During the British Mandate many Arabs from the neighbor countries came to Israel as the borders were open. As a result the Arab population in Israel drastically increased by that, perhaps doubled. How called the Arabs who immigrated to Israel during that time and now refer to themselves as Palestinians? Because Natives they are definitely not. Say the people who justify Hamas savagy terrorist attacks on Israel...

Yes, bombed by Hamas, the irresponsible and toxic adults who should take care of them but instead...

Israel doesn't kill innocent civilians on purpose, they are not driven by such ideology. They fight against terrorists which are Hamas and not against Palestinians. I watched IDFs declare and they explain the systematic usage of Hamas of sensitive places like hospitals, they included illustration of the tunnels located under these places and the entire underground system where the control rooms of Hamas are. Very informative. https://youtu.be/-ggBF9rnBe0?si=_QUzjZC7N4NpkJE4

Israel has the right to have its own safe place, especially the place that its people historically rooted in for thousands of years. No terror is justified against Jews or Israel. Terror is never justified.

Don't you see how minimum Hamas does to protect Palestinians? They not only do nothing, they are actively pushing Palestinians to death by using them as a human shield, isn't this a war crime? Israel at least does attempts to evacuate people from the places it would like to bomb because of Hamas' presence in them. But what Hamas tell to their people? Do they tell to their people "leave, we will fight alon in defending you"? No. They tell people "stay" and they kill people who dare to escape. Which is insane. Hamas with all its fortune and money could make Gaza like a sweet candy, literally make some decent place and yet, they chose to be curropted bastards when their leadership having luxury life in Qatar with billions in their bank accounts while their people living poor, and not because of Israel as Israel doesn't even occupy Gaza. Don't you see how they mistreat their own people and push them to die in the name of Allah and the religious ideology of freeing Al Aqsa and as a human shield to be used cynically? So why to blame Israel for all the problems in Gaza but close eyes to what Hamas, the ones who supported to protect them, do? What they do to defend them? Their own people? And no, killing innocent Israeli civilians in psychotic ways is not defending, it's out of nowhere attacking. Attacking and consciously knowing that Israel will attack back. Attacking from Gaza, from a place of pure hatred for Jews and the will to eliminate them, from a place of radical delusional Islamic views, and not because they are occupied or repressed as the attack came from the non occupied territory. And no, lunching rockets on Israeli children and innocent population is not defending themselves, it's a terror and war crime. War should be between soldiers. The soldiers in Israel would rather die in defending their people than using them as shields. It's not something that can be said about Hamas.

Israel doesn't operate like that. It isn't bloodthirsty or fueled by some radical agenda to kill all the Arabs in the world or something. It's just a nation who loves themselves more than they hate anyone. Unlike Palestinians and Arabs there who hate Jews/Israel more than they love themselves. If Israel was a type of a country that commits genocide, there were no Palestinians and no Arabs in Israel, period. Because everyone would have been already dead by Israel. But there are. Hamas literally risks the lives of Palestinians, and they don't care much about it, they would lunch rockets on Israel non stop with the awarness that some percentage of it will hurt their own people. If it hurts their own people they will use it cynically to blame Israel and to appear more of victims in front of the fools who buy their stories. Why are you closing your eyes to Hamas terrorism against Israel the and betrayel of their own people? Do you support Hamas?

1. It's a bit complex to fight with Hamas while they hide in populated places, with their tunnels located under civilian buildings. I've heard that there are tunnel openings in many residential homes in Gaza. 2. It's also difficult to determine who supports Hamas and who doesn't. There is evidence that during the October 7th attack, when the terrorists crossed the border, many Gaza civilians entered with the intent to steal property, take people as hostages, and kill. 3. While Hamas paraded the bodies of the Israeli people they had killed, the civilians of Gaza were the ones who praised them and threw sweets at them. 4. I don't believe that Israel wants to kill civilians, even if they support Hamas, just for the sake of killing them. It appears that Israel's focus is on Hamas terrorists themselves and it happens that they locate themselves among civilian areas because they show little regard for their own people. 5. I've heard that while Israel issued announcements requesting that Gaza people living on the northern side of Gaza evacuate to the south before bombing it, Hamas issued announcements in South Gaza requesting them to evacuate to the north. Hamas also blocked the roads leading to South Gaza and even targeted people who were on their way to the South. 6. I'm confident that a significant percentage of the bombings and civilian casualties in Gaza are caused by Hamas and other terrorists themselves, and they often try to shift the blame onto Israel, as they did with the hospital incident.

Intresting phenomena. Do you think it's more likely for them to regress to blue/blue-orange (in their political views and maybe also in general) or to evolve to yellow (by integrating less naive and more nuanced view on the conflict and some possible solutions to it) after the terror attack? Do you personally believe that praying as a group could make such impact? How do you explain that? Do you think that peace is a realistic solution? I think that the Israel-Palestine conflict proved that it's impossible. What do you think Israel should do to in order to garantee peace with Palestine?

Horrible.

I'm realistic. In Arab world Israel should speak Arabic. Facts prove that the nicer Israel, the more attacks it gets from Hamas aka ISIS. They literally savages and if you can't see this but only justify terrorists who killed innocent Israeli people, something is very wrong with you. I've never seen Israeli soliders parading naked Palestinian women with thousands of Israeli people praising them on the streets. I've never seen Israeli people burning Palestinian flag and screaming "death to Palestine" There is no evidence of Israeli soliders raping Palestinian women, cutting stomachs of pregnant women and chopping body parts of Palestinian people and uploading it on TikTok. This is unique to Hamas/ISIS. Why you justify it? Is that a conscious way to free Palestine?