Lila9

If we are the same, then go and bitch on them, what do you want from me?

Not tens of thousands years for sure. Hundreds of years yes and they were always constantly immigrating to Israel during this time. I didn't deny it. However, there is no historical evidence of Palestinian country of Muslim Arabs in Israel, but there is evidence of Jews kingdom in Israel. It's not called colonialism if the land was already colonized by Othmans and British Mandate and there wasn't a country called Palestine, and the Zionists bought lands from Arabs who sold it to them. And Ashkenazi Jews share DNA with Canaanites as well, not as much as Oriental Jews but pretty decent precentage.

I will take this as a compliment. I find it astonishing how blindly people support Palestine. I could be one of these people if I wouldn't deeply research about it.I 'm tired of ignorance. You are probobly not seeing well because this is what I do since the beginning of this war.

They are tortured by their own curropted leadership and the dogma their leadership brainwashing them from birth to grantee that they will go and kill Jews for the sake of their radical Islamic beliefs. The UN resulotion is not relevant here as Gaza is not under Israeli occupation and what came from there was a terror attack against innocent Israeli civilians which is a war crime. And if we are talking about legitimate struggle, legitimate struggle is legitimate only if the target is the army of the enemy, not innocent people while they are sleeping in their homes. Legitimate struggle for freeing Palestine is not burning innocent people alive, not raping innocent girls and women, not chopping body parts of innocent people, not doing massacre of thousands of people while live on TikTok, in some white bright day out of no where. Yet, it's justified by pro-palestinian as a legit terror attack while they whine about Israel bombing some parts of Gaza after it asked the civilians 400 times to evacuate from there while Hamas killing them when they are on their way to escape. While Hamas locating themselves under sensitive areas like hospitals and schools knowngly and consciously that they risk innocent civilians. Which is a war crime. While Hamas is still lunching rocket towards Israel and targeting innocent civilians. Which is also a war crime. it doesn't look like a legitimate struggle but pure terror.

I don't think this mentality is necessary but this is because I have fantasy in my mind that all the people regardless their race or beliefs, are living with eachother without borders. While in fact, humanity isn't there yet, it's not peaceful and conscious enough for such global ideas. There is definitely economical globalization and globalization of information but having globalization in practice, with humanity living peacefully as a one united tribe without borders, with no danger to any culture in particular... we are far from there. The history of Jews taught them that they must have their own country and it seems still relevant today because there is still lots of antisemitism in the world. Humanity scapegoated a few cultures and one of them is the Jewish culture.

Colonial project by a nationalistic Jewish movement in an already colnialized land by the Othmans and then by the British. During the British Mandate many Arabs from the neighbor countries came to Israel as the borders were open. As a result the Arab population in Israel drastically increased by that, perhaps doubled. How called the Arabs who immigrated to Israel during that time and now refer to themselves as Palestinians? Because Natives they are definitely not. Say the people who justify Hamas savagy terrorist attacks on Israel...

Yes, bombed by Hamas, the irresponsible and toxic adults who should take care of them but instead...

Israel doesn't kill innocent civilians on purpose, they are not driven by such ideology. They fight against terrorists which are Hamas and not against Palestinians. I watched IDFs declare and they explain the systematic usage of Hamas of sensitive places like hospitals, they included illustration of the tunnels located under these places and the entire underground system where the control rooms of Hamas are. Very informative. https://youtu.be/-ggBF9rnBe0?si=_QUzjZC7N4NpkJE4

Israel has the right to have its own safe place, especially the place that its people historically rooted in for thousands of years. No terror is justified against Jews or Israel. Terror is never justified.

Don't you see how minimum Hamas does to protect Palestinians? They not only do nothing, they are actively pushing Palestinians to death by using them as a human shield, isn't this a war crime? Israel at least does attempts to evacuate people from the places it would like to bomb because of Hamas' presence in them. But what Hamas tell to their people? Do they tell to their people "leave, we will fight alon in defending you"? No. They tell people "stay" and they kill people who dare to escape. Which is insane. Hamas with all its fortune and money could make Gaza like a sweet candy, literally make some decent place and yet, they chose to be curropted bastards when their leadership having luxury life in Qatar with billions in their bank accounts while their people living poor, and not because of Israel as Israel doesn't even occupy Gaza. Don't you see how they mistreat their own people and push them to die in the name of Allah and the religious ideology of freeing Al Aqsa and as a human shield to be used cynically? So why to blame Israel for all the problems in Gaza but close eyes to what Hamas, the ones who supported to protect them, do? What they do to defend them? Their own people? And no, killing innocent Israeli civilians in psychotic ways is not defending, it's out of nowhere attacking. Attacking and consciously knowing that Israel will attack back. Attacking from Gaza, from a place of pure hatred for Jews and the will to eliminate them, from a place of radical delusional Islamic views, and not because they are occupied or repressed as the attack came from the non occupied territory. And no, lunching rockets on Israeli children and innocent population is not defending themselves, it's a terror and war crime. War should be between soldiers. The soldiers in Israel would rather die in defending their people than using them as shields. It's not something that can be said about Hamas.

Israel doesn't operate like that. It isn't bloodthirsty or fueled by some radical agenda to kill all the Arabs in the world or something. It's just a nation who loves themselves more than they hate anyone. Unlike Palestinians and Arabs there who hate Jews/Israel more than they love themselves. If Israel was a type of a country that commits genocide, there were no Palestinians and no Arabs in Israel, period. Because everyone would have been already dead by Israel. But there are. Hamas literally risks the lives of Palestinians, and they don't care much about it, they would lunch rockets on Israel non stop with the awarness that some percentage of it will hurt their own people. If it hurts their own people they will use it cynically to blame Israel and to appear more of victims in front of the fools who buy their stories. Why are you closing your eyes to Hamas terrorism against Israel the and betrayel of their own people? Do you support Hamas?

1. It's a bit complex to fight with Hamas while they hide in populated places, with their tunnels located under civilian buildings. I've heard that there are tunnel openings in many residential homes in Gaza. 2. It's also difficult to determine who supports Hamas and who doesn't. There is evidence that during the October 7th attack, when the terrorists crossed the border, many Gaza civilians entered with the intent to steal property, take people as hostages, and kill. 3. While Hamas paraded the bodies of the Israeli people they had killed, the civilians of Gaza were the ones who praised them and threw sweets at them. 4. I don't believe that Israel wants to kill civilians, even if they support Hamas, just for the sake of killing them. It appears that Israel's focus is on Hamas terrorists themselves and it happens that they locate themselves among civilian areas because they show little regard for their own people. 5. I've heard that while Israel issued announcements requesting that Gaza people living on the northern side of Gaza evacuate to the south before bombing it, Hamas issued announcements in South Gaza requesting them to evacuate to the north. Hamas also blocked the roads leading to South Gaza and even targeted people who were on their way to the South. 6. I'm confident that a significant percentage of the bombings and civilian casualties in Gaza are caused by Hamas and other terrorists themselves, and they often try to shift the blame onto Israel, as they did with the hospital incident.

Intresting phenomena. Do you think it's more likely for them to regress to blue/blue-orange (in their political views and maybe also in general) or to evolve to yellow (by integrating less naive and more nuanced view on the conflict and some possible solutions to it) after the terror attack? Do you personally believe that praying as a group could make such impact? How do you explain that? Do you think that peace is a realistic solution? I think that the Israel-Palestine conflict proved that it's impossible. What do you think Israel should do to in order to garantee peace with Palestine?

Horrible.

I'm realistic. In Arab world Israel should speak Arabic. Facts prove that the nicer Israel, the more attacks it gets from Hamas aka ISIS. They literally savages and if you can't see this but only justify terrorists who killed innocent Israeli people, something is very wrong with you. I've never seen Israeli soliders parading naked Palestinian women with thousands of Israeli people praising them on the streets. I've never seen Israeli people burning Palestinian flag and screaming "death to Palestine" There is no evidence of Israeli soliders raping Palestinian women, cutting stomachs of pregnant women and chopping body parts of Palestinian people and uploading it on TikTok. This is unique to Hamas/ISIS. Why you justify it? Is that a conscious way to free Palestine?

People don't understand that in Israel's situation, there is no such thing as not occupying Palestine and being safe. It's either occupying Palestine and being secure or not occupying it and being subjected to the most horrific ways of murder. Where did Hamas horrible attack come from? Did it come from the occupied area or not? Of course it came from the non occupied area where Palestinians have free hand and guess what? All those who think that if Israel would only not occupy the West Bank, everything will be good and peaceful are severely deluded. If they are not deluded and understand that non-occupation would lead to the murder of innocent Israeli civilians and still support non-occupation, they are literally antisemitic.

This is a very good take. People don't understand that Israel doesn't have the privilege to not occupy the west bank. This occupation is essential for Israel's security, it ensures that terrorists from Palestine wouldn't murder innocent Israeli civilians. As long as this is the Palestine's level of development, it's better to occupy them and be safe and alive rather than not to occupy them and be killed by terrorists in the most horrific ways.

Muslims have Kaaba in Mecca as their most sacred place, they pray to the direction of it. While Al Aqsa is built upon ancient Jewish temples that are sacred for Jews. At that time when it happened to the Jews it was terrible for them as well, that Muslims built a mosque on their Jewish sacred temples, it's horrible. This is Jews holiest place much before it was Muslim, it's like Kaaba/Mecca for Jews so religious Jews definitely won't leave it soon if ever. Better for Muslims to realize the truth history of this place and live it to the Jews. Building a mosque upon a Jewish most sacred place was arrogant thing to do, what was the reason for that if not their belief that they are superior to the Jews?

Palestinians reaction when they asked how they explain Jews archeological sites in Israel, lol.

It must be so mentally difficult for those people to evacuate burned people, chopped headed and mutilated bodies after Hamas' attacks. It gives me holocaust vibes.

This is mostly the case, many Palestinians enter Israel everyday in the morning through the checkpoints to work in Israel and return in the evening. This premission to work in Israel usually pauses when there are many attacks or war situation with Gaza or the West Bank, for the sake of Israeli's safety. Sometimes Palestinians who work in Israel exploit the situation to gather information, do terror attacks or both for Hamas and other terrorist organizations so It's a bit risky. It isn't to say that there aren't decent Palestinians who only want to survive and don't want to commit anything against Israel. It's just a complex situation. Usually, Arabs in Israel (many of them idenify themselves as Palestinians and not Israelies) have a very decent life in Israel, they can get free education, get a good job and to live a modern and wealthy lifestyle. However, some of them don't value it, take it for granted and inciting against Israel, which is very sad. I've seen a video of an Israeli Arab shouting on other Israeli Arab students who incited against Israel, he was pissed off with their ungratefulness and their hatred for Israel despite living in good conditions. Israel is a democratic country and everyone can critize it, but there is a limit to what Israel should tolerate, I believe. From my understanding, now after what happened, Israel takes Israeli Arabs who support Hamas crimes against Israel in the name of freedom for Palestine more seriously.

All well said, it's refreshing to hear sane and humane voices in the Arab world. Massacre of Israeli kids who celebrated Love and massacre of Israeli innocent families and civilians has nothing to do with freedom for Palestine. Sad that people justify Hamas crimes and see them as legitimate leadership of Palestine. It's a shame.

Son of Hamas leader, Mosab Hassan Yousef breaks silence on decision to denounce terror group: 'They don't care' about Palestinians: https://www.foxnews.com/media/son-hamas-leader-breaks-silence-decision-denounce-terror-group-care-palestinians He says:

IDF released recording of Hamas admitting the Islamic Jihad rocket hit the hospital: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyiDRRSILKn/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

This is very unfortunate. Hamas lied that it was done by Israel while Israel didn't even attack in this area. That Hospital was accidentally bombed by another, smaller terrorists organization in Gaza called the Islamic Jihad when they tried to bomb Israel. Of course Hamas would say that Israel bombed the Hospital, it serves them very well. They will never admit that the Hospital was bombed by Palestinian terrorists.