Lila9

They have proof as seculars that their ancestors lived in Israel (archaeological, historical, DNA) for them it's a good enough reason to return back to it. The notion of Messiah can be arguable, each sector in Judaism believes in a different form of it. People can claim that the Messiah of the secular Zionists was Thodor Herzl sent by God to inspire Jews returning to Israel happen.

So you swallow everything you see on the media without making your own research? Like a robot? And no, people are still suffering in North Korea, the fact that you don't hear about it everyday doesn't mean that their suffer disappeared.

It was the religious explanation that was given to that but the original historical cause was conquest by a foreign empire.

The civilians war in Syria hasn't been over yet. The abuse of 26,000,000 civilians in North Korea and violation of human rights is still happening. The communist China has been killing and stealing organs from millions of Chinese people ONLY because they practice Falun Gong. They are still doing this. Where are all the protesters?

Jews lived in this land for thousands of years, have been explled twice. Their connection to this land is mentioned in the Bible, the Koran and the Thora. There is bunch of archeology in Israel which is related to Jews. Saying they have little to no tie is delusional. It's not like there are 20 Jews lands, there is only one while Muslims have dozens. Expecting Jews to give up on their one land for Muslims who have bunch of it is really fucked up.

Nice. Have you thought to compose this historical piece of poetry?

Israel is not an apartheid. Its situation is too complex to be considered an apartheid.

What happens in North Korea goes decades without end. Syria? Decades without end. China? Decades without end. Iran? Same. No, it's not an apartheid.

That's interesting.

Except Jews and everyone who is a non Palestinian refugee in the west bank and Gaza. Where all the protesters for the crimes against humanity happen in North Korea, China, Russia, Iran, Syria?

Lol, "Free Palestine from the river to the sea" is a call for ethnical cleansing of the Israeli people.

No, there are actually people who see Hamas as freedom fighters and actually justify and understand the terror against Israel. They are also deliberately ignore Hamas crimes against Israel and Palestinians and are sure that the Israeli-Arab conflict is exactly like the situation between black and white people in US which is ridiculous.

Why should I be grateful for naive people lack in understanding of the conflict who blindly support terrorists and see them as heros because they killed Jews?

Everyone is so smart when taking about how Israel should deal with Hamas. It's so comfortable to you because you are so far, because your family wasn't influenced by that. It's easy to be judgmental of Israel when you have never experienced 1% from the constant abuse Israeli people get from Hamas, all the death threats and random terror attacks. You don't know what it's like living in this fear. Yet, you feel entitled to judge and condom Israel for trying to exist while deliberately ignoring Hamas crimes. And yes, be grateful that you are not the one who's dealing with that. Be grateful that your safety and security are garanteed.

I don't know why, he might have his own reasons. Is that mean that he is correct? Not necessarily.

You better thank to God that you are not the one to deal with Hamas but someone else, somewhere in the world.

It always will be propaganda for you, no matter what, you can't see beyond your cynical view.

No, it's just you the one who doesn't want to listen and stuck in your bias that IDF is some sadistic devil. If they were interested in hurting innocents they wouldn't request them to evacuate. You don't know how IDF operates, you don't know its values and agenda better than Israeli here who know the army's mentality because they share the same mentality and served there. And yes, it's rude to claim that you know better than someone who knows it closer than you.

Liberal influence in the media. Which is not bad, but can be too black and white and lack in nuance. It's automatically presents Palestine as the weak and good while Israel as the strong and bad. Which is not necessarily correct as the reality is more complex than that.

The world only cares about deaths when it's done by Israel. Other deaths are fine and can be ignored.

Israeli army protecting Gaza civilians from Hamas terrorists shooting Gaza civilians while they are moving to the South: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzYioE0N-kr/?igshid=MWk3c21jOTYydWw4eA== This: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czi99ULIoEE/?igshid=MnZ5dnJxNXFvcmFv This: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzjU5tmoBqC/?igshid=bW9yOTQ3MXF1Y2Rn They talked about the IDF, not Netanyahu. They know the army in their country, they served there and people here are still rude enough to dismissive their perspective. I'm sure that if their army was ruthless like the Russian army they would have blantly say that. The news you consume might be biased against Israel, bear it in your mind, they may not present the full picture. They would tell you "Israel bombed a building" but they very likely wouldn't mention Israel attempts to evacuate this building and the Hamas attempts of forcing civilians to stay in the building. They don't address Hamas abuse of Palestinians.

It's not ethnical cleaning, it's a war on territory. The Palestinians on the west bank attack soliders and settlers with the purpose to free Palestine, from the river to the sea, this is the ultimate goal. Two nations would like to have 100% of the land and this is how it looks.

No, and Israel is not targeting him. Israel targeting Hamas. Didn't your country, the great USA killed innocent civilians in its wars? How do you so sure they randomly bomb buildings? If Israel had intentions to ethnically cleanse Palestinians, it would have happened long before October 7. Over the years, the Palestinian population has only increased. Israel showed tolerance towards Hamas for an extended period, enduring its acts of terror. However, after October 7, Israel recognized the need to address the threat posed by Hamas and took steps to eliminate it, realizing the potential great danger to the country. This is your problem that you don't believe in Israel. There are Israelis in this forum who have shared their experiences, having grown up in Israel, served in the army, and understand the Israeli mentality and the Israeli army better than you and everyone who claims the IDF is untrustworthy.

Israeli soldiers help Gaza civilians to pass through the humanitarian passage way: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czi99ULIoEE/?igshid=MnZ5dnJxNXFvcmFv

This is very far from being the case, there is no genocide or ethnical cleaning done by Israel. War crimes? Yes, there are no wars without war crimes. There are also war crimes done by Hamas, more severe ones. Are you going to ignore that? What about the constant abuse Hamas do to Israel by suecidal bombers? Hamas who killed and tortured bodies of innocent Israeli people? What about the estimated 50% of Palestinians who support them and celebrated when they did the massacre? What about the Palestinian children who are being taught to hate Jews and to kill them instead of studying Math and English? What about Hamas who use Palestinians as human shields and throw gays from the rooftops, who's their wet dream is to ethnically cleanse Israel from Jews to build a Palestinian dictatorship instead?