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Everything posted by Lila9
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Zionism is a national Jewish movement. Is Palestinian nationalism acceptable but Jewish not? They don't do that because Hamas are not nationalists, if they were they would attack soliders and institutions only and wouldn't do this religious weird "Allah Akbar" gestures. They are a religious movement first and foremost, they use the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to achieve their radical Islamic vision.
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They are Muslim countries, based on Islam, not Christianity not Judaism or other religion. Many of them may not be religious by the book but it doesn't remove the fact that their official religion is Islam. ISIS wanted Islamic stated under the Sharia law, religious Islamic state under their dictatorship. Jews are historically connected to Israel, this is cannot be denied. Israel is more Jewish than Arabic, historically and archeologically. This is why it's important for Jews to be in Israel and not in other land, so people won't claim they don't belong to there. Europe proved Jews they don't belong there. You say that Israel belong to the Muslim Arabs like the entire middle East, and not to the Jews. If Jews have been settled in Africa, someone would have said they don't belong to Africa. If Jews have been settled in America, someone would have said they don't belong to America. It never ends... You see the problem? The problem is not Jews but the hatred of them and lack of acceptance of them. Even as the legit citizens in a land that it's proven to be historically related to them. The fact that the existence of Israel aligns with US interests doesn't mean that it's bad and Israel has stop to exist. This is not completely true. Jews paid high taxes and lived under Islamic leadership which always saw them as inferior to Muslims and betrayed them a lot.
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Access to the sea and having the land may be one of the outcome of their presence in Gaza but it's not their main goal or something that they would bother to sacrifice soliders for. If they really wanted that they would have already done that. Historically they had no problem in giving land if it's ensures peace, like when they gave Sinai to Egypt and Gaza to Palestinians. He won Nobel peace price because of the Oslo agreement with Rabin but it doesn't remove the fact that he was a founder of Fatah which committed terror crimes mainly in form of suicidal bombers against Israeli civilians since 1965. I don't know about that, I know that it was found that she was active in a secret group of Hamas supporters.
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If people supporting Palestinians without criticizing or condomning Hamas, not only because of the massacre in Israel but also for their treatment of the Palestinians, the usage as human shields, the brutal way they execute Palestinians for arbitrary reasons, this silence seen as agreement and support of Hamas. It seems that people who support Palestine, hate Israel more than they love the Palestinian people, because if they would loved them, they would be happy to get rid of Hamas and replace it with more advanced and moderate leadership, more democratic one who is pro human rights. You can, people say it all the time. It's seen as the most humanitarian thing to say and people who think otherwise seem like cold-blooded fashists. "Just make a ceasefire and all this will be solved" comes from lack of understanding of the conflict. If the solution was that simple as just making a ceasefire, it has been already ended. People can say whatever they want, people always have opinions about everything. You have the freedom to criticize someone and think about him whatever you think, and this someone has the freedom to criticize you and think about you whatever he thinks. The western society can be secure, democratic and liberal as long as it condemns terror and brutal violence. Once it stops doing that and starts to justify solving problems with terror, it ceased to be liberal secure and democratic. Even in the most democratic country there must to be principals like banning incitement to terrorism to grantee that the country will keep being secure, democratic and liberal. As country with liberal values, like human rights, thrives in secure and democratic condition and not in violent and non secure dictatorship. The western country has no clue if the intentions of a civilian living in its territory, who says that Hamas is a valid resistance movement, says that because he actuality supports terror and is going to commit the next terror attack on the Jews community near his house, or aspires others to do that, or he is naively saying that out of ignorance. This usually ignored if this is someone anonymous but if it's someone known like someone who works in the US parliament, it's problematic to allow them claiming that Hamas are not terrorists as they will affect others to believe that brutally killing innocent Israeli people is legitimate way to achieve goals.
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He was also a terrorist. Palestinians never had a moderate leadership, all the leaders, whether it's openly or not openly, believed in terror and violence against Jews to claim the land. Hamas is just the most extreme but it doesn't mean that others leaders didn't encourage terrorism. She supports Hamas and this is the reason she was kiked out. Were they upset that a woman who supports a group of terrorists kiked out from the USA Parliament? Weird. It only confirms their ignorance in regards of Hamas.
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Hamas: "We will keep attacking Israel again and again"
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This is satire, it should be exaggerated to convey the reality. These queers who support Palestine do this blindly and out of ignorance and group thinking mainly, it's not like they did a throughout research of Hamas and the true meaning of "Free Palestine from the river to the sea" which means a Palestinian dictatorship under Hamas. If they would have done that, they would have found that Hamas are anti LGBTQ, anti women rights, anti speech freedom and would have think twice before supporting Palestine. Hamas themselves portray them as stupid because they were easy to manipulate thinking Hamas are just as advanced as they are while Hamas hates America and Americans, including the leftists there. They don't share the same values.
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It's like the stage green leftists in Israel who empathized with the Palestinian side and were calling for peace... until they experienced the brutality of Hamas from close and realized that they might want peace, but it doesn't mean there are people in the other side, aka Hamas and their supporters who want peace as they are. Ceasefire at this stage is dangerous for Israel, it's just gives Hamas more time to arm themselves and will make this war longer and more brutal. Many Jews in America understand this, but there are many who don't.
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This satire is about the ignorance and lack of understanding stage green westerns have towards the conflict. It's hilarious that they portray anti LGBTQ deadly terrorists who wouldn't think twice before exucting them as heros and the victims of the conflict. This satire was created by stage green leftists in Israel. Blaming Israel for homophobia is hilarious considering it's the only country in the middle east that is tolerant of the LGBTQ community.
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This is really laughable, their attempts to make it look symmetrical. This is completely out of ignorance about both Hamas and the settlers.
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The hatred exposing itself. At least you are honest with your antisemitism and not trying to deny it or sugar coating it like other people here.
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Hamas themselves streamed the killing and burning of innocents, live on TikTok. There is also Hamas Channel on Telegram with all the gore which they are proud of. And most people killed were non-combats. Simply old people, babies, young people who was in a trance party, women, children.
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Yet, every country in the world has its main religion. Even US which is considered very secular, its main religion is Christianity, it's based on Christianity, not Islam, Hindu, Judaism or any other religion and at the same time US supports religious freedom. Israel supports religious freedom as well but still define itself as a Jewish country.
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It's not the same. Jews has an history in Israel and only one Jewish country. Palestinians are a group of Muslim Arabs from the entire middle east area. Jews and Arabs are genetically related but they are not the same culture and religion.
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The question is, what country it should be? A Jewish or Muslim?
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In Israel it's a radical religious minority that most Israelies detest. But among Gaza and the West Bank is a systematic hatred towards Israel and Jews.
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The difference is that the majority of Israelies don't do that, and they are also not indoctrinated with hatred. They have more western mentality. Most Israelies are just scared of terrorists. Palestinians in Gaza and in the West Bank are treated like a shit by their curropted leadership who make them believe that all their problems, poverty, suffering are because of Israel. Palestinians are oppressed by deadly ideologies first and foremost than any Israeli or Jew. The average Israeli is more scared of Palestinians (because of terror attacks and suicidal bombers) than hate them.
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This is horrible and literally a crime against humanity. Upon reading on Wikipedia it was done by radicals as a response to Hamas kidnapped and murdered 3 Israeli boys. Even if Hamas done that, it's not justified to kill innocent child and in such ways. I read that the criminals who did that were sentenced and got life imprisonment. This act of cruelty was heavily condemned by Israeli authorities because Israel is a democratic country who has no tolerate for crimes on a nationalistic background. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir?wprov=sfla1
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This is different in my opinion. Hamas are like the Nazis chosen by Palestinians in Gaza/Germans. And Israel is like Britain fighting against the Nazis. Britain killed innocent German civilians during the attack of the Nazis but no one condemned it because it was seen as war against Nazis and innocent civilians death as tragedy but an expected outcome of the war against the Nazis. And here, Israel got brutally attacked by Nazis (Hamas) and is attacking Hamas as a result, and may have killed unintentionally innocent civilians, but everyone is focused on the people Israel may have killed, and blaming Israel in intentionally killing civilians rather than on the brutal savages, Hamas which became ISIS alike, it has to deal with who are also strategically hiding among civilians. This poor girl has a German mother but a Jewish father and she is an Israeli girl, living in Israel, an artist, peaceful innocent girl. Who believed in peace with Palestinians. Those who celebrated this massacre were aware, because her body was paraded naked on the streets of Gaza. And Hamas streamd the massacre of October 7 live on TikTok. When people are indoctrinated with radical hatred towards Jews, people who most of them never met a Jew, never talked to a Jew, and know nothing about Jews beside the toxic dogma they were raised on, it's not surprising that they were happy of Jews deaths. Liberals are ignoring it because they portray Palestine/Hamas as victims, which means Good. While Israel/IDF as the aggressors, which means bad. Their view is shallow and lack in nuance. They would support everyone they see as victim and demonize everyone they see as an agressor. Also, many gen Z see supporting Israel as boomer thing which they don't want to identify with. And I also believe there is antisemitism involved because there is a lot of passion in this conflict to protect the human rights of Palestinians in Israel, in particular, but not the same passion to fight for much worse human rights violations in the world.
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I've never seen or heard about Palestinian kids abducted or burned alive by settlers. Most settlers are peaceful, unlike they are portrayed in the west and in pro-palestinian sources. There are radical minority and even they are not doing things like burning children. This is not an equal situation. There are radicals on both sides but these radicals are not the same. The biggest threat is not Zionism or settlers but Hamas which is a danger to both Palestinians in Gaza and Israel.
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I don't know if he is making fun of Hassan Nasrallah or Ali Khamenei but it's hilarious.
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It's nothing compared to Hamas raping girls, beheding babies, burning people alive, cutting organs of living people, taking innocents as hostages. Do Al Jazeera mentioned this either?
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Always makes me laugh to tears 😂
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Children in Gaza are systematically indoctrinated to be antisemitic:
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And you an Israeli innocent girl violently raped and shot by Hamas terrorist. Deal?