Davino

I like the message but I don't think it's truthful. There's no giving without taking. Reality is an interchange. Everything that has been given to us will have to be returned, hence nothing remains, because we're empty consciousness.

Fair enough I just want you to be grounded, work in this dimension of consciousness, it's important. The stronger the roots, the higher the fruits.

@vibv this is a general point Why you insist in reality being other than what it is. If it hurts it hurts, if it's pleasurable it is pleasurable. The true work is to be conscious moment by moment, don't think awakening will take out the bad, everything has it's place in God's dream and so is our job to love and recognise the beauty in it. Let a rock be a rock, let a screen be a screen and let the sun be the sun, let everything be what it is and be conscious of it all. You wanna make it more mystical and beautiful than what is and by virtue of doing so you're losing the divinity Reality and Consciousness always already is.

@cistanche_enjoyer Yes, they are very useful once you see moment by moment that Reality is made out of consciousness and that you can tap into presence. Once the big picture is right, then of course you wanna double down on your consciousness of the moment and those are legit tools.

As always, words don't make it justice but this Awakening has changed my life. I really feel now everything is in its proper place, everything is aligned.

Not that I remember

@vibv No doubt you'll enjoy God, the point is most people won't enjoy the journey and sacrifice it takes, too high of a price for them, still a bargain though

I can say only God satisfied me. A saint once said: Only God is enough And it's true. Only God is enough, only God scratches that itch. Only God, only God.

I find it important to leave room afterwards, not being on my phone, not doing to many things, just being. I like to write a trip report. I also like to find an image that encapsulates the feelings of the trip, so it's not only linguistic. Then I re-read the trip the next day, and the next week and the next month. Then maybe when the year is ending I re-read all the trips from that year and I rediscover forgotten gems and contemplate on my path, etc. Overall, don't be on the phone, go have a walk usually works nicely for me, going into nature, listening to good music, preparing a nice meal, dancing, etc. You kinda want to leave room to decompress but not to forget and enter into survival mode either, so it's important to get a right balance. I'm sure you'll figure it out brother. Lots of Love, Davino

Don't be ungrounded and idealistic

All cooperation must involve a surrender of individuality and autonomy, the problem is when that surrender hinges on truth seeking, which is common given than animals tend towards survival and not pure Truth.

Hopefully you acknowledge how far we are from that Unless there's a breakthrough with Leo's psychedelic protocol, we'll live in the dark ages for centuries to come.

I know you know, I'm just trying to complement you. Dozens of times you've talked about group think and how society makes you stupid, but think how powerful it would be to also talk about the other side, the immensity of what we've done together and the potential of collaboration. If we're truly visionary that's how we'd be thinking, hey, usually being in a group tends towards the lowest common denominator, but properly done, there's a potential to become better than the sum of our parts. In your video of conscious leadership you should touch upon this key point.

But how come you're gonna be the best in something that didn't work for you? You're the best in what worked for you, obviously.

Regarding group-think I'd like to point out a blind spot Leo doesn't usually talk about: The power of Collective Intelligence. If you ever work in a top notch research centre, consultancy or think tank, you'll see that when a group of autonomous thinking individuals join together, great synergies happen and a collective mind is formed, a greater Holon so to speak. Many great insights I owe to this.

You should know what everyone is good at. If I attend the retreat I want Leo at its best, which is not self-inquiry, for that go to another place. It's like you go to Ramana asking for yogic advice. I'd go to get mindfucked, for insane Awakenings/God-Realizations and to meet the Actualized.org community in person. Those are my drivers.

Niceee

Because the higher the building the more unstable the base is.

Yeah, there are degrees to it. You can only map what you have awoken to, hence your mapping is better; taking into account both the limitations of mapping and its benefits. The two axis is just a pet theory but I find it very very useful. I'll definitely won't catch the ocean in my fist haha

Said the king of mapping

Good insight! I've also had it. I couldn't believe it when I realized there are infinite Absolutes... It blew my mind out of classic non-duality. Yeah, there's Infinity of everything! Infinite stupidity, infinite pizza, infinite orgasm, infinite horizontal, infinite vertical, infinite absolutes, infinite infinites...

Not everything is dependent on states, the horizontal dimension is existence itself morphing into every state, in this sense it's always present no matter the state but it's conditioned to be in one state or another. So one is always already existence and therefore, whether in hell or heaven, existence is. I won't enter into debates of what axis is better, but I certainly have my opinions on that. Leo is more direct on his opinions. I just do everything, I work on both axis and more, my position is meta. The trap of the horizontals is that they never reach Infinity and God. The trap of the verticals is they always chase the peak and cannot hold consciousness moment to moment.

Returning to the main topic, you should note psychedelics are geared towards the highest peaks of consciousness and Infinity. If you're interested more into the everpresent buzzing being of existence, maybe these type of experience will not give you what you're looking for (maybe they give you something better or not, but it's not directly what you're searching for a priori)