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@CosmicExplorer Literally what he says is in perfect accordance with what I said. Pain yes but no suffering. As pain is a first order phenomena and suffering is a made out of the first one, resisting what is. If what is, is suffering that is fine, you don'r resist either pain nor pleasure. In fact, pain and pleasure are seen as codependently arising. That's what he says, I'm not having his experience but this seems to be very consistent and clear. The tweet you posted says the exact same thing. Otherwise, please explain me the disonance

Funny enough he explains it in the same way as you did. He says that after the point of no return you will be who you actually were before all the wiring made by society, family, meditation and spirituality. He explains that it takes still some time to dissolve all of that, because some conditioning cannot be dissolved after there is truly no center. When this process of cleansing and conditioning is complete after the shift: You will be naturally you, whatever that is for you. I would like to note that after the shift took place in Frank Yang he started recommending psychedelics. One trip every month and a breakthrough 5meo dose a year. He said psychedelics are a great catalyst for dissolving but that in the end the methodology becomes irrelevant as you will also become awake and free from the particular tool you are using, being it psychedelics or meditation. I found this last point interesting and I only heard it from Adi Da Samraj before. In this line of approach, there seems to be a final discard of methodology and tools. Adi da says that the last stroke of egoity is the tool itself for awakening and that this is the last speck to dissolve and become continuosly free. I have no methodology to keep consciousness in place. It is always already the case. It is what it is. Adi Da Regarding this I would like to ask you about the topic of identity. Some people say that you should realize what you are, let's say consciousness, but identifying with it and making an identity out of it is wrong, you are trying to fill a glass with the whole ocean. Other say that you have to reflect the truths you have awoken to and if you are consciousness and that's your real identity then it is natural to say I am consciousness as well, and rewire your identity arround consciousness. Others say that if you realize that you are consciousness that really means, no identity at all, and you cannot make an identity out of it, or said in another way, the identity of consciousness is no identity at all or all identities simultaneously and identity itself. I'm a bit confused regarding this topic of identity, after the same awakening, consciousness is all there is, each individual takes different paths regarding their own identity. You awaken to your nature but then the role of identity that awakening triggers seems to be diverse. I would like to hear what you have to say on identity

It is more because of the release or Awakening than merely because of the substance itself then.

Good to know, thanks

It is that way in the highest peaks of God Realization. But those are insane levels of consciousness, like getting shot by a thunder. You are confusing God with Ishwara. Ishwara is the God-Head in creation so to speak, the abrahamic God for example is Ishwara. Let's take the hindu lens for a moment. Hinduism says that jiva (individual), jagat (world) and Ishwara/God-Father/Allah, all of that put together and more is Brahman or God. I think that's what's confusing you and many people when talking about God. They confuse God for Ishwara, NO. That's not what I mean when I say God. I say infinity when I mean God, you are the One, as there is only the One, that makes you the ultimate sovereign of Reality -> Ishwara, as there is only one that makes you the whole of reality -> jagat and well you already consider yourself an individual so that's done. God is all that is possible for infinity, all permutations, the infinite space of possibilities. Deep, huh? Yes, that's a real danger. Though, how do you avoid? You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. I could tell you that you are not a human being existing but existence being a human being. You can take that out of faith and generate it unto your experience and delude yourself with something which is actually true. However, you may give a necessary push in the right direction and make someone wake up to the existential domain of reality. In the end, it all boils down to the intelligence and maturity of the one receiving the teaching rather than the teching itself.

Any advice on nausea? I'm drinking ginger lemon tea. Is nausea really a thing with 5meo?

God is precisely what remains after you succed in that job. Wether you identify with it or not, it is irrelevant. God is all there is and all that is happening and could ever happen. After some point, understanding and being become one and the same. You exist, therefore you understand and so on in all dimensions and facets of existence. What I'm starting to appreciate the more I do this work, is that everyone is doing their own thing actually. There is no end goal, there are great milestones sure but this is an open game. Yes, integration is challenging and an unvoidable part of the work. I agree but both can coexist and synergyze beautifully. It is not exclusively one or the other. Both are facets of the Infinity One. @Breakingthewall There is a lot of overlapping in our psychedelic trips but in spirituality we may search other things. That's totally fine.

Agree He doesn't frame it like such, altough it may seem so at first glance. My understanding is the following, in the axis of constant awakening you break the speed of sound that is the duality between subject and object forever and after that point, the one reality takes care of itself. It is not a ultimate state but rather a crossing point of no return in baseline consciousness, the end of all identification with the body/mind. Imagine being dead while alive, something like that. It is a no return point. Okay now I got what you wanted to say before. I get your position now

@r0ckyreed In the end it is all a mind game

@Breakingthewall Got it, thanks

Lol no.. Infinity of Gods is like Solipsism on steroids. I have verified this awakening. I cannot communicate how profound it is. I have done it sober and with psychedelics, it is a legit facet of Awakening. I had it while walking on the street and even while interacting with other human beings. When you have this awakening it will blow your brains out. You will see literally your own consciousness manifesting through each and everybody animating them as it animates your own body. You will see God, literally God, moving in front of your eyes, you think you are interacting with other humans here? Huh, you ain't awake, there is only God talking to itself here. Infinity through each and everyone of us. I cannot communicate how profound it is. It will blow your brains out. Reality is a dream of consciousness. It is not a word game that has to make logical sense to you. It is something you see with your own eye. You will gaze at your present experience and you will only see consciousness,,, dreaming everything up from nowness to infinity, as far as you flex consciousness. But I get where you come from, it didn't make any sense to me till it happens. All mystics: Reality is a drem. Me: what? this doesn't make any sense. I wake up, Me: Oh, Reality is really a dream! A dream of consciousness!!! That's outstandingly beautiful & ingenious! That would be my feedback to your insightful post. I consider everything else up to debate but not the three points above. That's my position at least, you make up your own mind.

@Breakingthewall What would be your advice for 5meo then? I really take into account what you say about psychedelics. It always helps me a lot. Many times I faced a closed door in a trip or a big challenge and I remember something you said and that is the key that opens the whole thing up. That has accelerated my progress a lot, I wanted to show some love for that

Oh so there is afterglow in the higher doses? Good to know, I find the afterglow very conducive for integration I know 10mg is very small but it was my first dose and I have no rush. I have a strong tripping ethic in this regard

That was an extraordinary insight in it's full context. Utterly life transforming. Who writes the books in the end? At some point you have read so many books that you should write the books, not read more. If you read more you will brainwash yourself instead of pushing the edge of your inquiry. That's a priceless gem of epistemology right there.

Leo's teaching are true or false depending where you are at. That's the beauty of seeing the whole process over a decade, that you can relate and study where you find yourself in.

The evolution of human beings in the future? You have a whole branch of psychology called Developmental Psychology. Which gave birth to Spiral dynamics, Susanne Cook-Greuter's models and Ken Wilber works. Leo himself has done a lot of work here. AI will not change the inner wiring of human beings but in the best case scenario, will accelerate this progress along the spiral.

If you yourself don't know it, how is another person going to know it? You'll have to learn it by trial and error. If you wanna learn the full science of meditation (112) then I reccommend you: The Book of Secrets: 112 Meditations to Discover the Mystery Within: An Introduction to Meditation Otherwise just try and try till you find some meditation that works for you. Meditation didn't start working for me just after I did 150mg of Malt. Right now the meditations that work for me the best are from Michael Taft It may not work for you. It took me many years to find something that really worked for me. Everyday is different and I do a meditation technique that calls me for that moment. Like pranayama, vipassana, kundalini, zazen...

@Leo Gura What do you think of this video?

I mean it's stupid but surprisingly good in a way

Do you really think that? I mean all are facets of the one and identical in the ultimate sense but there is a genuine point on making these distinctions. Everything is the expansion side and nothing is the contraction side of the Absolute. I became one with everything dozens of times before even glimpsing God or Infinity. You can become conscious of God but not breakthrough into Infinity. Infinity certainly feels Godly but you may not fully take control of your Sovereignty & Godhood. Why are you oversimplifying things? There is an irreducible complexity to this facets Why are you avoiding my question? I just told you what his baseline consciousness is. I studied deeply his work, that's what he communicates through his videos, the 360º camera and the cool shots he makes are not just art, they are the closest he can make to transmit how his moment to moment experience unfolds. If you deny this in others, as there is no simple way to measure it, you have to also deny it also to yourself, as there is no simple way of measuring your Alien Awakening. As an experiment, let's just assume, that the previous description I made was accurate. What do you say about this axis of Awakening? The base line ant worker that forever dissolves all centers, solidities, persona identity and ego into the Infinite Awake Space and self abides as Reality itself ever-present? Agree it is not the highest peaks of consciousness possible but it is constant, so stick your neck out and say what you really think

@Leo Gura My real question about Frank Yang is the following: What do you think of his baseline consciousness? Let's not talk about the peaks of Awakening but someone that is interested in achieving the highest permanent realization possible. In this line, I find Frank Yang to be in an extraordinary base line of consciousness. He perceives a boundless 360º centerless sky of sensations. Where he is holographically conscious of all nanocorners of reality as empty & full simultaneously. He is in a flow present state 24/7 and is free from all suffering and identification with his own body and mind, everything appears as clouds of sensations indistinguishable from Awake Luminous Spacious Infinite Reality. I honestly find this remarkable, this is not something to casually dismiss. This is the peak of what is achievable in constant everyday life. I do unstertand and have experienced myself how infinite Awakening can become, in a way that makes ridiculous wishing it to be permanent. However, I am working on both axis, in the deepest Awakenings possible but also, why not, in an impressive baseline consciousness. I find that you have traded baseline consciousness for higher Spiral Dynamics Evolution. Fair enough. But something is off with your baseline consciousness, it sometimes feel you have neglected that, in contrast with your other well polished facets like Maturity and Peak Awakenings. Have you thrown the towel after Awakening so hard?

I disagree also with him on that. For me his point 3 is more on expansion and everythingness. Not on Infinity or God. If you look it through that lens it makes more sense.

This hasn't anything to do with the UFC. If one wins then he wins even though you are an asshole, look Conor. Dana has his owns interests, sure but all sport companies do. Martial Arts are beautiful and in fact we are seeing a tendency towards healthier beef. For example, Volkanovski vs Topuria is a great example. There was an intense beef but on the professional level, not in the personal. For the first time we have a spanish champ on the featherweight division. I really like him and I'm sure he'll bring prosperity to my country. As you can see with martial arts you tend to have people on both extremes of the Gaussian distribution in terms of maturity.

More on Varanasi. I'm fascinated with the city. I'll go there before I die, little places have captivated my attention for so many years like Varanasi

No way. Is this 100% true?