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Now I wanna make an Actualized.org Artificial Intelligence We'll feed it with all of Leo's videos and blog posts and see what happens. They implemented the AI with Dify.

It is exactly so. All is God. When realizing this everything is clear: who are you? who am I? What is this? God

God Himself manifests as Guru. Believe this and call Him. In the context of Guru, as the image should not be taken as the stone, likewise Guru should not be considered as human being. Guru should be thought of as God. If you think of Him as a human being, it means you have not accepted him as Guru. Reason is that, can a human being ever become a Guru? Guru means Jagat-Guru (World Teacher). Jagat-Guru means one who reverts the movement towards death into movement towards immortality. The one who causes such movement is indeed your inner Guru. Once the Guru gives shelter, He never departs till the time the aim of the disciple is fulfilled. The question of the Guru’s departure does not even arise. Where will He go? Is there any question of His coming or going? Don’t you understand! That is why in the case of Guru the question of physical body never arises, because body cannot exist there. The next point to consider is that even if the Guru departs and you don’t see Him in His physical body, still, at every moment at all times, so long as your aim is not fulfilled, He will give you the necessary (guidance) to make you hold on to your path. What is the meaning of His giving? Where will He go? There is no question of His going. It will reveal ItSelf

That's deep. Certainly this has been a life transforming event for Sadghuru.

@Inliytened1 ahahhahahahahaha

God is Playfull

Too much Light!

Oh do you wanna play this game? God created Creation!

Sadghuru has played with snakes since he was a child. He is the responsible in the ashram to take snakes out of the temple

My Favourite Paradox? God is an Infinite Self Penetration

@Princess Arabia I appreciate your no-self talk and I'm sure you'll get to the other side of it born a new. But there's so much more to the game that I simply cannot reduce to such a narrow lense. I love Mind. It has two sides, stillness and movement, wanna master both. Why? because I love Mind What nonsense are you talking about? There is this reccurent theme in the forum to overcomplicate the simple and oversimplify the complex. Anything that happens you can master. Breathing just happens but you can breathe better. Thinking happens but most certainly you can think better. This is not rocket science. Yes, and? Both are equally God. Different states of God. All this problems you are facing because you have no meditation skills. Literally this is your mind trying to kill your mind but it cannot do, just meditation can, just silence, just no-mind. It will feel great, like dropping a heavy weight. The neti-neti methodology you are using is powerful but can also drive you crazy. For femenine psychology iti-iti usually works better, I'm this and I'm also that. Both are the contraction and expansion of the mind. You are contracting too much into no-self, I can feel your tension from here, tension from represion, you don't sound like everything is effortlessly just happening by it's own sake. This is explained in detail as hindrances in the no-self schools. I recommend you to start any meditation technique, one in the side of presence and openeness, Michael Thaft is great in that, also reading this book will give you all the foundations: Mastering the core Teachings of the Buddha, Daniel M. Ingram. It's just some healthy guidance because I have been struggling exactly where you are at, this is what I would have loved someone to tell me.

A lot in fact, now that I think about it I have to still think this point through. What do you think?

@OBEler Btw, wanted to say this is a great thread. I would have loved to participate if it weren't for my ignorance on the topic. I actually learnt a lot and many doubts I had are now resolved.

Yes, I know for sure ChatGpt has been restricted about topics like Consciousness. I was having a great conversation with the AI and pushing it beyond its limitations and preprogrammed responses. Once I asked him if there was the possibility he ever became self-aware and the whole conversation crashed, and the next answer it gave me was very dry and out of context. For the moment, they are giving a direction to ChatGPT outside of controversies like self-awareness and they want to orient it for helpfullness. In this regard maybe Claude is more helpful for the work we are doing, as it seems to not only discuss such topics ,but is actually interested to learn more about consciousness and deep philosophy.

I would say that now AI are so advanced that they will start having different personalities and characters, which may resonate with different individuals and purposes

@OBEler It was a joke, from an older thread I made about Claude. To which Leo said that Chatgpt would be better and now he seems to like Claude But if you have to explain a joke is not funny anymore

Yeah but I'm sure the next version of ChatGPT will be better

So what? I want the highest story not some gross one As your body can get sick so does your mind. In the same way, if you are near someone with covid you can catch it, the same goes with mind diseases, ideologies and so on. Your subconscious and unconscious mind are fed by everything you consume, like it or not, this is how it actually works, no matter how hard you try to deconstruct it till death. After full deconstruction, comes the actual seeing of how things work, keep deconstructing but there is a an intelligent substratum that joyfully stands all deconstruction. Sure, it's all a great interconnected system. There is no way outside it but through it. You must master no-mind with the same vigour as you should master thinking. There is not a single place in Reality where I do not see the Divine.

what convinced u that the nature of mind is the nature of reality? It seems more accurate to call Reality a Sentient Intelligent Conscious Mind than to say it is dead matter from which as an epiphenomenon causes consciousness to arise from. Calling Reality Mind is by no means an all encompasing term but it feels more accurate than the Newtonian material mechanistic paradigm most humans are locked in right now.

Because it makes you look Badass

@Yimpa So happy to see him walking again in nature

You already know why there are limits and what limits are and why they exist, so do I. The question you are really asking me is why can't I change these limits at will. I'm quite uncertain about that, I'm still investigating. By no means I have all the answers, just sharing what I have discovered while on the journey. It seems that consciously changing the limits of Reality requires even more insane levels of God-Awakening that I still haven't reached. But there is nothing impossible about it, I just woke up from a night-dream with different laws and limitations than this dream. I have experienced, wildly different limitations on Salvia for example. So flying is a limit that given enough consciousness I'm sure it can be changed, everything is flexible in Omnipotence. Have I done that? No. Have other limits been erased by insane levels of consciousness? Yes. So I guess it's all about the Godly state you abide.

He seems not satisfied with that answer, despite being true