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@Leo Gura Alright but isn't the whole point of self improvement selfish, especially in the beginning? The goal is to make your life better for yourself. Clarify please

Yea this sums up my opinion aswell. Idk about truth, isn't it all relative?

What men, where, who? Devil meaning what. He believes in mental fortitude and winning, he is confident in himself and teaches his values to people (which isn't to rape woman). If anything below stage green is devilry, then almost everyone's attitude makes them a devil. Hundred percent, I've pointed out the fact that his advice is pretty basic. Ok, this isn't so much a rebuttal, I'm just curious. Who do you think teaches masculinity well. Let me know.

@Raze @Leo Gura @thepixelmonk I don't understand, and I'm really trying to figure out where people get the idea that he teaches how to rape women. Massive assumption, reply with evidence because I'm curious man. I would definitely say that he has instigated positive change on the youth, because my friends have benefited from him. One of my good friends got into self improvement because of Andrew Tate, I never seen him not play a video game for over a month, ever. He's now slowly progressed to more holistic self improvement, and this change in him wouldn't of happened without Tate. He does not provide any extraordinary advice, that's pretty obvious. He still manages to motivate young men to change their life, not because of his advice but because he portrays a highly masculine and attractive character. No-matter how good advice you give, it won't matter shit if no-on wants to listen. Tate motivated thousands to start listening to some advice, to start changing their life. Look, you can reply calling me an ignorant stage orange dickhead, but I ask you to actually tell me why you think what you think, because otherwise its damn hard to change my mind.

@Tudo Yes probably. As in lab meat would be popularized.

Yes, I'm unsure on whether narcissists live a fulfilling life at all. Here's where I would disagree with you. For the vast majority of individuals, "winning" refers to professional accomplishment. I assume that the main objective for the majority of individuals is to advance in the social hierarchy and achieve monetary success. The reason I am saying this is because I want to highlight that the goal of a regular person and the goal of a narcissist don't deffer that much at all. What makes a narcissist a narcissist is his inability to empathize with other people and not a difference in objectives (of like 90 percent of population, yes there are exceptions). Therefore, I would say that narcissists are probably going to be more successful than the majority of the population (in achieving their goal). I don't think that their mental condition would slow them down. They have an advantage when it comes to monetary gain, and stage orange success. Are they limited to stage orange? Yes you can argue that but most people are stuck in stage orange, so yea he/she will probably be more successful than most people. Trump yes maybe. And yes, although too much self confidence may seem like a problem in the long term, intelligent narcissists end up being so much more successful than the regular chap that his self confidence is more of a perk than something negative. Like you can say oh too much self confidence led to Stalin's downfall that's why you must stay humble but cmon, he did end up becoming so powerful he could do anything to anyone, and there wasn't anyone who rivaled his power except like Hitler who was another narcissistic psycho. okkkkiiii Ay anyway let me know what you think

@Tyler Robinson Both fail? How do you over generalize two large groups of people hehe. 1. All results makers were dreamers at some point 2. Many Narcissists often do get what they want. They don't have the limiting beliefs that stop most people from taking action. I mean cool post and all but I don't see the point.

@Leo Gura thanks cleared things up

@Leo Gura I assume this does not mean don't take any guidance at all. As that would invalidate your work as a teacher no? Also doesn't learning from other people speed up your own learning process, spiritual or not? It makes sense why you shouldn't ingrain dogma into your brain but taking advice does not seem harmful in the long run. Also if we forget the spiritual mumbo jumbo for a second, do you think it is wise to completely live your life out of your own experience and eliminate any other view? If that was the case then I have a feeling I would be stuck in stage orange, the reason I am even thinking about enlightenment is because I wasn't close minded enough to reject it.

@Leo Gura Has there been any other spiritual master that have claimed to experience earth in such a way? Usually I look at what many people say on a certain subject However, it appears that you are the only viewpoint in this regard (earth being conscious). Also who do you consider to be actually great Spiritual masters, now that you've researched and experienced this much?

How does this falsify nonduality?

Yea good question

Yea I mean ok, just why? Why would it want to?

I mean yea bruuh, can't think of any other reasons too. Why would there be something other than nothing, I gotta watch leos video on that.

@KH2 so bro basically the only thing that can overcome god is it's own boredom with itself aahahahaha

How does "wanting to" work at that level? Don't I only want something because I feel a sense of incompleteness. Like if I was absolutley fuckin infinity I'd probably chill for eternity, I'll be hapiest that way no?

Ok noted.

Alright good point. But why did I want to come in my current form then? Like why are we alive right now?

Ok, then your experiencing infinity all the time. I have a feeling I'm going around in circles here hehe

@Leo Gura So then all these spiritual masters, Ramana Maharshi, Sadhguru etc etc are just bsing about this reincarnation stuff!!!?

Ok let me ask this way, what is the stage right before infinity? I'm just trying to understand

How do you know death is infinite love? What if just wakens you up to another dream? What about reincarnation?

Yea but doesn't that mean that there are infinite amount of stages.

What happens tho, what if your just reincarnated and have to go through human petty bs again.

@Leo Gura If death is that good, then why wouldn't you jump to experience it right now?