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I thought about this happening aswell. But the thing is I'm not sure how it will turn out in practice. Will AI develop it's own agenda? Isn't there going serve the elites of the world in some way? There is also the possibility where AI will help only more fortunate humans while leaving people that cannot afford AI behind. This same concern is for bio- technology

Yea I agree. I think now we have to compile ways where we can adapt to AI

You know exactly what I mean. Meaning it can use data provided effectively for the given task, could've worded things a bit better I agree, all humans might be a stretch. But it sure can do more than most humans, and it terms of humanities it is literally college professor level because of the amount of data in has. No such thing. What analogy is that? I'm not forgetting. AI gets data and connects them to make something new. That's exactly what humans do aswell in many cases. In the future AI will also be able to create it's own data meaning it can create completely never seen before new ideas and theories so yea we agree on that. idk where your going with all this consciousness talk I mean yea that is what I am leading to, except I kinda want to know how it will effect philosophy because I feel that humanities is something that AI is getting a grasp on very quickly at the moment

ChatGPT uses already existing sources, so yes you are right about how AI processes data in the current stage. This will change though. AI will be able to become the experimenter and gather it's own data. In the future AI will most defenitly be able to do the same job professionals do but faster, it is only a matter of time. There is plenty of material online going into what big tech companies are working on, and it is pretty scary. Artists can leverage AI to improve their artwork, I know where your coming from. This said, current AI art has already gotten to the point where consumer believe it is a good enough final product. This means that it becomes more of a competitor than a tool.

@Nilsi I mean look, if you submit an essay to a plagiarism checker, there would be no plagiarism. There are these tools to see if you used chatGPT, it works ok but if you changed few words from the text it becomes original. bro you can definitely use chatgpt to create content and noone gonna say shit because it is virtually impossible to know.

@Nilsi Humans don't either

Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows any solid way to improve spatial awareness. Years ago human's were conditioned to be extremely aware of their surroundings as it was necessary to avoid predators and survive. I want to increase my spatial awareness, is there any way I should do it. People say meditation helps increasing focus and awareness, but now I've come to realize that different mediation techniques are good for different things. I'm trying to develop the ability to notice everything that is going on around me, as unawareness has cost me in life thus far. So... Any books, or ways in which I can improve my awareness? Are there any specific mediation techniques I can use?

@Swarnim Does it stay?

sure Competition against yourself is very important. Competition against others is also important in the social context for resources, however I do acknowledge that although competing with others can push you, competing with others can also limit you in a way. So yea I agree. good lad

The prevalent issue of competition. In our culture, it is embraced. School is competition, Career is competition...Survival is competition. I find that Spiritual masters fail to address the current implication of competition in our "orange" world and instead brush it off as low consciousness, ego mind activity. Instead many spiritual masters suggest using your time expressing yourself through "truth", through "love". I, and many people on this forum support this message. However, I soon realized that I was taking in this wisdom like dogma, and that fundamentally there is some gap in my understanding that doesn't allow me to leave this stage "orange" train of thought. Additionally, I realized this pattern in other people on this forum. Sure you can appreciate wisdom from great guru's and spiritual teachers, but you still massively compete in the social matrix everyday. You still have an idea of how you are valued in society or your group. I remember seeing several posts in a span of a few months where people complained about feeling humiliated because they were viewed worse than others. This gap in understanding is clearly not exclusive to me. The fundamental problem that I and multiple other people have, is that I can't imagine how winning could make your life worse. I can't imagine how being on top of the social hierarchy is not a good thing. The better you are at competing, the more resources society gives you because society rewards winners and results makers. The more resources you have the overall more possibilities you have to explore life. The more power you have, the more you can use this power for good. I don't understand how competition is petty bullshit, when your required to compete in order to survive. Another post I read on the forum is how AI might jeopardize the user's art career. The gist of it was that artists couldn't compete with AI art any longer, meaning they can't profit from their art. Even @Leo Gura suggested to still continue making art just for the sake of it. But how is this good advice? If you can't even make a living, I don't think exploring life will be any of your concern. I don't want to act as if I transcended "competition" "social hierarchy" when I haven't. So basically it comes down to two questions 1. How does one transcend competition and social hierarchy without sacrificing one's survival? 2. What is the healthiest view on competition as a whole? I've thought about this a whole lot, so I will rebuttal arguments which I feel have gaps in them.

I agree. I think becoming too involved with it could be problematic, however ignoring social hierarchy all together is also problematic.

Yes. However, it is apparent to me that whether you consider yourself spiritual or not, you virtually have to partake in the rat race if you want to live in modern society. On your note on problems when your successful. I think that there are ways to compete, and in order to compete effectively you must be able to manage yourself efficiently. I remember when I was younger that although I used to be competitive, I also was too hard on myself and that actually stopped me from being competence. Although I am not perfect yet, I think I have a healthier view on competition and understand that in order to succeed one must not take things too personally. Yes, exactly, but you can use your logic for absolutely everything. You can take a bunch of psychedelics learn a lot about reality but then what? Also, I don't simply mean travel and live a life full of degeneracy. If you have 500 million in your bank, a phone full of connections and good health, you can aim to solve many problems that the planet faces today. You have freedom to revolutionize the education system, combat illness in third world countries. You can do so much more than if you are in your dead end job. If you transcend your "ego" (the little "i"), there's a possibility that you will see that the you in your life was never truly there. Therefore, you can attain success in the social hierarchy in a manner that is playful to you, genuine and you don't take it so personal (because YOU are a fiction) It's essentially a game and you know you will be "alright", no mental anxiety. However, there is also a possibility if you "wake up" that you could do away with the whole success thing and become like a farmer or a surfer or a monk or something. Something simple. Can you live with that possibility? Would being a 'nobody' to your friends and family and society as a whole, scare you? You bring up a pretty important subject, in my opinion. While letting rid of your ego may enable you to live a happier life, you will likely stop caring as much about success as you once did. Transcending your ego however is not an easy task, and quiet frankly I don't understand how it works yet.

I think this is great. You should do what you want to do. I just wanted to understand why people have an issue with it considering it is such a core part of our survival in this era. I'll be blunt and admit that yes I want to be the best at my field because in my view, it don't seem to have many drawbacks. It is a core part of survival and being good in competition does award you in many ways. Thanks for sharing

@NoSelfSelf Yes agree, well said.

There's a book called Mastery by Robert Greene. He touches on this. He claims that there are two ways to become a master. Either compete in an already existing field, or create a completely new field. He gives many examples and isn't biased towards either. I think having a unique value is great however I think if you inspire to get into a field where you will have to compete like a NBA basketball player, then you should still work towards your goal. I don't think it's wrong to compete whatsoever.

I don't understand, to what extent should I use intuition? How can life be both counter intuitive and also intuitive, I mean I can imagine it being both but then whats the purpose of even saying one or the other?

I mean, Leo isn't too condescending. He is sometimes but it's barely anything compared some people I know. On your thought about "loving condescension", I disagree. I mean sure, you do you, but it is incredibly hard to learn from someone that shows extreme superiority all the time, dismissing your questions as just dumb.

I have a very extreme obsession with status, and I think it's hurting me. When I was younger I was often bullied a lot for my skin color, and I think I was always seen as "lower status" through-out my life. I've recognized that I was a codependent with a narcissist, and that scarred me pretty bad. He end up beating me tf up too lmao. My reputation in school has been fucked for a while now (because of narcissist manipulation. The thing is, now I feel like I really want higher status. I just want to feel it. I've want to feel how it be to be respected, to be feared. I want to take revenge for everyone that went against me. I want to be able to defend myself when someone tries to socially put me at my place. I'm so tired of this. Why am I so bad, why am I so low value. There are so many incidents, I can't tell you cuz I don't want to relive them I'd love to progress into spirituality but this desire seems really inestiguishable. I hate everyone that looks down on me, I see it in their eyes, I hate that. I don't know what to do please help. I used to cry myself to sleep everyday for few years. It got better when I avoided everyone except my friends. But now I'm socially anxious, I don't know how to talk to girls and my status is fucked. Idk what to do, brruuuh I'm struggling to be consistent with anything, idk help bro, I just humiliated myself again I can't... All my friends bareley into self improvement but improve way more than me, why am I so bad. Idk help, like really...

Tf is AP and LD?

@Leo Gura Do you think that the existing culture is good? How so? I'm not asking whether transgenderism in our culture could cause negative consequences, but rather just generally, should our current culture and gender roles be kept the same?

@Danioover9000 Mostly learning and accomplishing my goals. Originally I believed that it is absolutely necessary to take an absurd amount of time to learn and accomplish anything to create "quality work". This seemed to be a sort of self deception technique to stay complacent. I'm not saying sacrifice all quality and speed-run through life. I'm saying have a strong sense of urgency, try to do things relatively well but be fast, focus on actually completing the task. Example: Lets say you selling products online Scenario A: 1. Research best ways to sell product 2. Design website for 2 weeks 3. Design logo for a week 4. Ask friends and family if design and logo good 5. Get stock 6. Legal papers to make things "official" 7. Create Instagram and post some good pictures of product 8. Advertise Basically you spent a huge amount of money and time for something that you wont even know will succeed or not. Instead if you cut the bs, just do things quickly. Scenario B: 1. Research best ways to sell product 2. Simple yet effective website that implements all researched techniques 4. Organize stock via droppings 5. Advertise Here, yes the quality is "lower" but you will know if your idea would actually work or not without spending so much money. Even if you get a small profit, profit will be reinvested and you can improve quality fast. You will have more actual useful experience, and learn faster. I hope you get my point

I'm familiar with the advice, "don't rush things" and "build a good base", but recently I've tried doing the opposite. I approach everything very much in the mindset of how fast can I do this. I can't even say if I produce work with decreased quality, in fact I think I create the same if not better quality work because I skip all the extra bullshit I used to do when completing a task. Intelligent people are rewarded because they learn things and achieve things faster. To what extent can I take this mindset? Are there any huge limitations? How important is it to approach things with speed and urgency?

@flowboy Really good advice. Thanks.

Yes. That's what I'm doing much better using the strategy/mindset shift

Well yea I can definitely imagine situations where I should takes things slowly. I think what you outlined here will be my approach