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I don't think his take is as dumb as you say but I see your point. Mark also emphasizes in investing in yourself, and shows you exactly how to go about it. Investing in yourself also decreases your neediness. Also in the book he clearly states that neediness in any form in unattractive, even when it comes from vulnerability. So even if you beg outright that you need her, it is still unattractive. He says you tackle neediness through working on yourself (looks, lifestyle, status) and by practicing expressing your intentions clearly, aswell as therapy if needed.

Nice response thanks

yea see Im realizing this by going into the real world. I mean being vulnerable matters but like the technical skills matter too. A lot of your intentions, or emotions can get lost in translation if you don't know how to behave the correct way. I think your right dude.

Maybe your memories are not consistent but you get the feeling that they are. idk how to explain that well, but when I am dreaming, the present moment of the dream makes total sense in the context of the whole dream. After I wake up I realize how the dream was barely consistent, but I didn't know that while dreaming.

Any other opinions? Does anyone support being open in the beginning?

Okay thank you. I appreciate this lengthy answer this makes so much sense. Appreciate this so much you don't know.

Hey guys, I am inexperienced and need clarification on whether or not you should share your personal dating history with a girl you're dating, to what detail and at what point of time? I've never cheated, but if someone did cheat in the past, when or should they even bring it up? I'm getting more and more experience by the day, listening to all the stories my friends tell me (both men and women). It seems like good things don't seem to come from sharing your past because if a relationship ended there is always a reason and it's rarely one sided..but at the same time it feels like it is necessary to build trust. I'm so fucking confused. It's driving me insane. I tend to overshare, but I am so scared to do so. Thanks for the replies in advance, Im so interested to hear your opinions.

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Mark Manson wrote that practicing vulnerability (vulnerability: intentionally making your desires and intentions been known) is the gateway to being non-needy. I mean I think we can all agree that this is true, ofc practicing vulnerability will help us be more indifferent to people rejecting us. This is lowkey rejection therapy. but does this truly cure neediness? Like Leo says that you should actively create abundance in your life, then you will naturally be less needy and your abundance will grow even further due to non-neediness. Like I’m having several experiences..and am seriously trying to look through the lense of truth..what’s really true here? Please leave your opinions for discussion.

Thank you very much for your perspective on this matter guys.

If I were to scale drunk levell she'd be a 7, like she definitely wasn't like falling on the floor or anything. She was pretty drunk and in super horny mood. Also, I didn't sleep with her or anything, I just made out with her. Like wouldn't sleep with her, but I thought making out was competley fine, especially because it was appropriated by our friend-group. Then the next day, she brings up how that may have been weird, I I lowkey feel like Im being accused of doing smth wrong, it feels shitty. Like I didn't have any bad intentions so it felt weird defending myself. Also how many drinks would be too many drinks?

@Valach yea bro this is so tricky I had no idea there was morals attached to it so I was js like yooo this girl wants to make out with me lets go. I mean doesn't Leo go do pick up sober in nightclubs, usually the girl has had drinks right? Im super interested on when he would go for it and when he would not.

I made out with a girl recently, she was drunk, I was sober. Met her through social circle. Her friends set me and her up. Her sister is super against me, main reason because I was sober and she was drunk, apparently thats like taking advantage or something. I had no idea this would be an issue, obviously my intentions were not to take advantage of her, I actually care about this girl. All my friends have slightly different things to say about this. Is it bad to get with a girl when she's drunk and your sober? When is it exploitative?

Is sharing emotions a turnoff, one of my friends has this as a number 1 rule. He says all women say they love when a man is emotional, but this is a HUGE trap. Is this true?

Interesting convo you guys