mr_engineer

I know how you do it for yourself. You get rid of all preconceived notions. (Not assuming that the blackpill is a preconceived notion or objective reality as of yet) You work on yourself, you discover yourself and what you have to offer to women in relationships. You understand women and how they receive it. You figure out compatibility. Then you make the transaction work with them. It'll be in an emotional language cuz that's feminine epistemology, or a feminine definition of 'fact'. In terms of feelings and emotions, not 3D data. Once you've done all of that, there will be a part of you that wants revenge from women. Cuz all your life you've felt powerless to women and now that you have something to offer to women, you have the power to not give them what they want! This is where it becomes important for you to define your morality in the way you deal with women and this is where your blackpill can really block your throat. Up until this point, it can just be there in the background, where you don't take it seriously. But now, once you're ready for relationship, a blackpilled ideology will lead to misogyny. This is where we get to the issue of 'immaturity' as Leo calls it. If you have immature ideas about what women do in the world, your morality for dealing with it will be set accordingly. And, if you're not careful, you can morally justify doing all kinds of evil to women. Even mass-shootings! You can only debunk a blackpiller who's done all of this work and who's reached this point. In fact, it's only here that there's any real point to debunking them! Before that, they'll resist you. I think that it is a gross misunderstanding to dismiss them as guys who are lazy and holding onto victim-mentality to justify it. You really don't know whether the blackpill is true or false up until you reach this point. Many PUAs don't want to even consider it with an open mind. This is the whole reason that blackpillers are that resistant to being debunked! Cuz most debunkers assume that they're just immature and lazy and don't want to take any responsibility. Which is flat-out wrong.

It's not just third-world countries and human history. Look at how the US maintains its superpower-status. Through military power! Through NATO. Look at what goes into maintaining the reserve-currency status of the dollar. If that's not Stage Red, I don't know what is. It's fundamental to the structure of the system. It's not going to autocorrect with more development. Structural changes must be made.

@AtheisticNonduality Even if we assume the materialist-paradigm to be true, we can clearly see that the system is an illusion even from that perspective. So is money. But human beings are real! This is a pretty basic truth. You don't need to be very spiritual to figure this out. Common sense is enough to see this. Now, if you want to say that the materialist-paradigm is a creation of our mind, that human beings are an illusion, then you have to meditate. This is not common sense. This is rare knowledge accessible only to those who meditate and do self-inquiry.

You forgot Stage Red. That's probably the biggest value of politicians. Their power comes through the physical brute-force of the state. We gotta take that to Blue and for that, we gotta grow through Red!! That's what I'm talking about here, in reality. Fixing the Stage Red foundations of our Stage Blue systems and designing entirely new systems. This is what it may take to create true systemic change.

I can't be the system. Because the system is an illusion, I am real. A 'politician' is an illusion, which is a part of the system. I can have empathy for the humans occupying those positions. They're real. Can they have empathy for me, though?! What I do, what the masses do is going to depend on that. What are their reasons for being a politician? And, if I become one, what would my reasons be? That's what it boils down to. I know, you're trying to tell me that it's more complicated than having a revolution. I'm trying to tell you that this is what the complications boil down to! And, as for fascism, it's fear-based. If the public isn't docile and controllable, that'll scare away the fascists. That's what I think. I do not believe that we will go backwards. Cuz we have a history behind us, we have experience behind us. We have had a nice civilization, we have technology. We know what works. We just need the ability to go through with it. The reins of power.

@DefinitelyNotARobot Except for one thing - people will get out of the passive state they're in relative to society and become more active. They will not have these corrupt abusive politicians holding them back from doing good things. Of course, the people who still want leaders will elect more corrupt leaders, but it'll get the ball rolling in terms of change. The people who participate in elections and who get swayed by the propaganda, are people who are indoctrinated into this system to begin with. And they don't know how things could get better. As a result, they enable politicians who stop those who do know how things could get better and who have better ideas. There are so many amazing things that could be done in the education-system, for example. You could start teaching students about money, about farming, about human needs, human relationships, human emotions. Why aren't we doing this? Because the politicians want us to be programmed robotic slaves to their economic-system. That they then inflate and use to scam us. They do not want us to learn about how money works, cuz if we did, that wouldn't be very good for them. Corruption is not something that is isolated to one person. That if you remove this bad apple, the system will function properly. Corruption is by design of the system. And we need a new system. And, for that, we first need to know what to do about those who benefit from this system. Different solutions are being tried right now. Peaceful and violent. And we see where the peaceful ones are taking us. Cuz they get their power through violence, through monopoly over violence. This kind of system can only breed more and more corruption. And those indoctrinated into this system are simply blind to it.

If you notice very closely, there are too many shots of people listening to her talk. And very few shots of her directly talking on camera. And, of course, lots of jump-cuts. The story is a very good example of reductionism. Where you focus on the details you want and you present the narrative you want. I'm pretty sure that if they #releasethefootage, we'll know what they did.

She says that's an editing-job. That what she actually said, was that she didn't want someone living with her to have children or spouses. However, her employees don't live with her and they can live their own lives. I only have her word and strong reason to not trust the documentary because she's successfully managed to discredit them. I can't prove her right. There are lots of people who want to live with her. And she says that the non-negotiables list was to manage this situation. It wasn't even her idea. Quoting her in her response to the fourth episode.

@Leo Gura Do you think somebody needs to be saved from her? Out of curiosity? When you're gonna accuse someone of being a cult, there needs to be a victim involved.

@Leo Gura Alright. Let's say, I say on camera 'Murder is wrong. Justice is a fundamental human right.' And, they record it and they cut out a part of that, and they say 'Murder is wrong. Justice is a fundamental human right.' Is that 'bad journalism'?! Watch her video exposing their editing-tricks. That's what she's proving that they did. This is outright slander and defamation.

She has clear-cut proof of that. And I've been to her event. I hard-vouch for her. They're baselessly calling her a cult. That's them spreading conspiracy-theories about her. Let's say I broadcast to the entire world that you're a cult. What would you call me in that case? A conspiracy-theorist, right?

@Raze You could create actual development, right?! You could give them a better education. But, you don't. Why?! Because printing money increases the gap between the rich and the poor. Inflation does a good job of that for you. This is the actual reason they print money. I'm not saying people should get a license to shoot a politician. I'm saying that I have no sympathy for him.

@Raze The government violently defends its rights to print up all of this money that causes inflation. How do you stop them? How about you come up with some solutions to the problem?

As a Spiral-Wizard, I choose to integrate Stage Red. Not demonize it. The problem of inflation is a problem of violence. If someone has a non-violent solution for a problem caused by violence, please, go for it.

@puporing What you're saying sounds very good in theory. But, in practice, if you want to see how change really happens, look at Sri Lanka. Look at what they did to the Lamborghinis of their politicians! What's your non-violent solution to the problem of inflation? And, more importantly, what's your solution to the problem-people who deny that inflation is a problem at all? Who call it a 'solution to the problem of deflation'?! To say that deflation or 'lack of money' is a problem, is outright delusion. It's to think that 'money' is a real resource and that you need more of it, when it's not.

@puporing And what if they aren't drawing this line? And they're violently forcing you to pay $10 million for a bypass surgery or something? Pro-inflation policy is outright genocide. They are the violent ones here! I'm just expressing my lack of sympathy for him getting shot.

@puporing I'd like to hear you say that on the day you have to pay $10 million for a cup of coffee. I mean, what other solution do you have for inflation? Do keep in mind that people lose lives due to inflation, due to inflated hospital-bills. I think that being pro-inflation and pushing those policies is genocide and deserves capital punishment. You're killing the common man by doing that.

There is a special place in hell for politicians who are pro-inflation. We all know where this guy is burning right now. Believe me. When inflation rears its ugly head, you will know whom to wish death upon! Look at Sri Lanka. Being a pro-inflation politician is textbook elitism. Textbook elite-oppression of the masses.

In one sentence, you say that my level of consciousness is close to the bottom, then you agree with me!! What does that say about you?!

@PenguinPablo My point is that the 'documentary' (if you want to call it that) is an editing-job. It's not 'exposing' anything. It's only exposing themselves.

@ZenAlex

@ZenAlex What are you concerned about? Name it.

From what I can tell, the 'good' it does is short-term but the bad that it does is long-term. The thing is that 'money' is an illusion. But, goods and services are real. So, if you have too much money but not enough goods and services, the prices never stop going up. Issues with 'supply' and 'demand' sound equivalent, because we use them in one sentence, but they're not. If there's excess supply, things don't have to go to waste cuz the prices can go down. But, if there's excess demand and a scarcity of goods, the prices must go up.

What, are you pro-inflation? Do you agree with his economics?

@Leo Gura What's your forum-policy, by the way? What do you do with people spreading conspiracy-theories? Out of curiosity.