Meeksauce

More like driven absolutely insane to the fullest extent. Nobody's mind would survive that.

Did he tell you what happened?

It might not be scary now, but if it was you on that torture rack, you would experience a limitless indescribable amount of fear.

Of course a lot are going to be, as you said, but when someone has truly been traumatized and is sobbing their eyes out on camera that becomes much harder to fake.

It could be that NDE is just a transitory stage before the real deal. But I get what you're saying, no dreams have more reality than others. I think whatever is manifesting reality is buried far beneath the human conscious mind. It's a terrifying thought to think that my own consciousness could potentially lock me in hell forever.

This is exactly the problem. Even if NDE survivors truly did visit a hell or heaven realm, who's to say it wasn't just a hallucination. After all, they did come back so I think it's safe to assume they didn't cross the final threshold. I think it might the same thing with 5-meo-dmt - the vividity of an experience does not mean that is the actual afterlife. However, I still have to try it for myself and I think you should too if you want these questions answered. It might not be legit, but you can't know until you try for yourself. One thing I can't help but think about is how Christians most commonly report visiting the Christian hell, Buddhists report visiting the Buddhist hell, and so on. Not that there aren't videos of atheists etc. visiting the Christian hell but the fact that this discrepancy alone exists discredits a lot of NDEs. (edit just found this) - Maybe he had the archetype of Christ stored in his subconscious from when he was a kid, still it's a very good counterargument to the above paragraph. But the fact that Buddhist NDEs even exist says a lot. I think it's a safe bet to live morally, virtuously, and by God. Yes, not only because the threat of eternal torture is so horrific but also because it's just the right thing to do. The purity of your heart and mind matters, even if we don't know what happens after this life.

At a certain point the "how" and "when" become irrelevant, because everything is imaginary. Just look at salvia, you can experience a million years in 5 minutes.

I'm still not taking my chances with hell haha

This is a great one if you haven't seen it. My take is that in order to be the individual self you are, fully, you must be undivided and therefore can't have any memory of what happened prior to your human birth. However, when you transition out of this life back into infinity, you should theoretically remember this life because you are infinite and therefore your perspective is integrated.

My main gripe with the whole "I died and went to heaven/hell" thing is that these people say they truly died, if you truly died then how did you come back? I feel like when you truly die beyond the possibility of coming back is when you would truly experience what happens after death - anything else is just a coma like state where your brain is filling in the gaps because it's saying "insert scene of what we think happens upon death" I'm not saying I don't explicitly believe in NDEs, or that these people didn't experience what they experienced. A lot of them put out Oscar level performances if they are lying. For me, just the possibility of hell is enough to get me on my good side and grow my relationship with God. This is a very interesting topic for me at the moment, what are your guys thoughts on the validity of NDEs and their apparent corroborating evidence?

Me too

Yes. Monopoly is a bad game

If not being myself is required to play the game then I don't wanna play.

I wouldn't go as far as calling it the same thing, more like the degree of disappointment is a consequence of the degree to which I got my hopes up. Yes they are related. But it's unfair to say "you shouldn't feel anything for this person" while they are reciprocating signals.

I'm not doing anything wrong but ok, keep drinking the kool aid