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Great interview. @Leo Gura correctly pointed out how dense and paradigm locked Penrose is and what a good job Craig did in explaining the universal mind paradigm. But if Craig is so smart how can he be a Christian? A Christian doesn't just think Jesus is a good teacher (Like Leo, Osho or Sadguru is) Christians think Jesus actually rose from the dead 2000 years ago and preformed magic tricks. This belief is based on a few 2000 year old "eye witnesses" that were recorded hundreds of years after Jesus's death. Also Christians believe that without Jesus you "can't be saved" whatever that means. They don't even mean "without Jesus's teachings you can't be saved" somehow Christians delude themselves into endeavoring to accept Jesus "into their heart". What nonsense!!! To me that is a far more of a dense paradigm lock. Any thoughts?

@Gabith Torture is a concept that YOU invented. So ask yourself why would you create such a twisted sick reality. I have some ideas: we have all experienced pretty bad things and when you go through it it's really not that intolerable. The alternative would be a picture perfect life without any problems whatsoever. Not sure how that is even possible and would probably be no fun. As Leo, the stoics, and others have pointed out, death could be the best thing that ever happens to you yet most humans fear it and label it the worst thing ever.

@Mysterious Stranger Drive your car sure but Cook your food? Clean your house? Sounds like the Jetsons which was also an over enthusiastic prediction on the future. How could AI cook your food? Is every house going to be equipped with robots like they have in the hospitals now?

@StarStruck Kastrup basically says that right now materialist honestly believe that the skull is physically situated behind everything that is experienced. They believe that there is a light show that represents the outer world created inside the mind through photons entering the eyes. I've brought this to the attention of materialist but they don't see what I mean. It's almost useless debating the average close minded person on their core beliefs.

I wouldn't, just like a wouldn't debate a flat earther. But Bernardo Kastrup on the TOE podcast did one of the most compelling arguments against materialism that I've heard. https://youtu.be/lAB21FAXCDE?si=k_PWn5s3XErKToav

@Hardkill what you are saying is a little contradictory. You want progressives to use outdated methods like appealing to religion. But Progressives do win, about half the time. You are assuming the most progressives aren't also corrupted by lobbying. (Maybe Sanders and AOC aren't?). Also, as Leo has pointed out before, the US Military, however corrupt, keeps more corrupt powers around the world at bay. I assume this partly comes at the cost to benefits for US citizens like healthcare and other social services?. Furthermore, as Leo has mentioned, change in all countries will occur but not always at the speed progressives want. @Hardkill maybe you should think about running for office if you think your ideas would work.

Lol

This took a weird and dark turn? Are you ok? Get your mental health in order first languages are less important. What kind of health conditions?

You experienced the future? Sounds way too specific. You are starting to sound like @Holykael! ?

It's probably in the realm of human possiblity, but learning one language is hard. Let alone two. I speak a few languages and learning one at the moment. But you are probably the first to attempt learning two here. So try it and let us know!

That's deep.

Leo's Israel post was up for a few minutes but did it get shut down by the Jewish Lizard people? I would like to hear a take on the subject or if anyone can share some good resources. I'm pretty sure the west supports Israel so that it has some influence in the area especially over governments that really hate the west in the area.

If there is no separate self then how is this not just fancy full beliefs? How do you know you don't wake up as a worm and you just dreamed you were a human?

Cool thanks!

Maybe he feels like he "should" be doing them for whatever reason. Either way I wouldn't put Jordan Peterson in Stage Green (Leo doesn't either in his JP video). At the very most he might participate some green activities like yoga. People change I haven't listened to him in a while however.

Yes it could be due to brainwashing by the rich and powerful. Pursuing material success benefits the people providing the materials.

Some wealthy people do but when you commit your whole life to achieving material success it is hard to admit you were ultimately wrong ( same with religious people). Plus living a life a luxury is not that intolerable. Most people will tolerate their lives without being rich and not care about achieving enlightenment. Religion is expected to rise https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/

Oh interesting. Well for that purpose it should work well.

I'd like to see the post too@Ash55

You could be correct but these questions are very hard to answer. You would have to interview every person on their beliefs. Since the retarded religions, Islam and Christianity, are the biggest and the numbers areonly expected to grow it is hard to argue that "the east is dominating spiritually" Yes this whole thing is just nonsense and not real. This forum, this discussion, world politics is just an illusion. We are just chirping like birds about nothing to fill the air. We are addicted to thought. But all thought is illusory. There's a grand plan and maybe that involves Islam taking over the world and then a Buddhist revolt 1000 years later. Who the fuck knows or cares. Societies are full of idiots and probably will continue to be for 1000s of more years. Education is brainwashing so there's no wonder they don't care about enlightenment. And wealth is antithetical to enlightenment. Who needs enlightenment when you have great food, nice furniture, nice views, fancy cars, people respecting you, endless vacations and adventures.....

@Sabth oh cool. What made you want to film the video? Can you describe your intentions, and goals with the video? And talk about what we are watching a little bit?

It's cool, very interesting perspective into a "day in the life". What country do you live in?

You are tier 2. @KoryKat check out spiritual warriors posts and journals and you will find a tier 2 person. Furthermore SD is a tier 2 model, so in alot of ways if you can understand SD you are capable of tier 2 thinking.

Your stage of development has alot to with your intentions. Take recycling for example: if you recycle because you love nature you are probably Stage Green. If you do it because it's the rules of society then you could still be Stage Blue but very strict on recycling. Same with yoga and maybe even psychedelics. So it's hard to tell sometimes what stage someone is at.

No it's an oxymoron, what would a Middle eastern Jew who lived 2000 years have anything to do with your life? It's sheer nonsense. Even if you believe Jesus's teachings to be good, he never encouraged going to church, building churches, and all the nonsense Christians do and believe.