Anton Rogachevski

How to destroy that which doesn't exist?

Which raises an even better question: Is awakening self-destruction? It certainly isn't in the same way as smoking is.

@Recursoinominado You are describing neti neti. (not this not that) The point is detaching from all to get to a point of total detachment - shunyata, which in turn will go full circle into everything, at which point you realize you are indeed all that you see, but to get it you must first see that you are also not it. You are also both and many more facets, It's a strange loop. You are doing some fine introspection here. Keep at it, and godspeed.

Hello dear forum dwellers, How are you these days? I have an interesting subject for contemplation for you: Did you ever realize a facet before reading about it or hearing about it? Leo did talk in the second part of the video about the fact that dogmatic students only get a partial awakening because they are only shown one or two facets by that specific teaching. That leaves me wondering about the correlation between having an idea about a certain facet, and then experiencing it, or could it not be related? That opens the door to a phenomenon of belief manifesting as a facet while actually being "just" a belief. (Obviously belief has a powerful role, or perhaps the sole role in creation.)

@MAYA EL It's not necessarily bad, on the contrary, it could say something important about the role of belief and studying concepts as a way to awakening, which many times gets shunned by smart-ass "gurus".

@Leo Gura Truth is a beautiful no-thing indeed. Very good point which resolves basically all questions there could be. Although contemplating god has had some brilliant results for me - I've reached a conscious connection with it. It has became obvious and intuitive to speak and pray to god, which was far from viable before entertaining such notions.

You have been mentioning lately that I'd imagined the sun into existence. Isn't that so?

@Leo Gura So you're basically saying there isn't a correlation?

While this is true, some extreme versions of Green create a strong resistance and repulsion to below stages. So it's best to subtly integrate and talk about green from a perspective that's still viable and acceptable to orange.

@brugluiz @Leo Gura First of all dear Leo, let me quote you: "Unless you slept with 30 or more women you will be a pussy." (How to be Man Part 1) Yes Toxic Masculinity is a real problem, and it's a result of a collective Blue Pilled mind. Only if you don't understand the true nature of women, can you be angry and hold grudges at them, only then will you be filled with hatred and act with violence. (Which is extremely silly, since both are two parts of the same species and they depend on each other, which is hard to admit.) Look for ways to bring peace love and consciousness to every domain of life, that's Positive Masculinity. Seek unity and not division. Please don't pile all groups into one narrow judgmental category without a deep objective look into them.

@Spiral Good arguments. Since the human will cause more harm to the environment, it's better to save the ant. (As crazy as that may sound.)

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole, try contemplating the fate of deadly bacteria in an infected body.

@Nahm She must be from another planet.

@Truthority Thank you for sharing dear fellow, I can really sympathize. Very honest and true.

It's good for nothing. There's no "Way" to reach what you already are, have been and will be.

Don't you Love the "false self"? Surely Love is an aspect of the absolute but not all of it. There are many more aspects to it. (Including the devil.) The secret is not to cling to just one, but embrace all. The Truth is a multi faceted diamond.

Let's go deeper on that one. Can we talk about anything non-dual without first dualising (interpreting, perceiving) it? Isn't that interpretation directly dependent on your level of cognitive development and knowledge?

Since logic is absolutely relative, it's neither true nor false.

@zeroISinfinity Of course, but you can't bring it back as an insight unless it went through a duality filter first. This is an unchangeable fact. (If you don't get it you are deluded by your own perception, thinking it's correct without further contemplating that question.)

Don't forget the difference between stages and states. All I can say is this, the interpretation of an awakening experience is directly dependent on your current level of development. Stage green will surely experience the absolute as love. Also, remember every stage interprets itself as if it were two stages higher. E.g, Green might think it's Turquoise. One must stay open to further development and radically different interpretations. Remember it always seems as though you've reached the maximum until you've gone further. In other words, the Absolute is whatever you want it to be, because you created it.

It's the desire for sex that drives the need to repel it. Desire not to desire.

Let's discuss the implications of the absolute on moral questions. Does it erase them completely or should we still relatively evaluate each case and think if we are moral or not? For example, if I deem something immoral, should I say "All morals are imagined" and keep doing it? Sound like a recipe for disaster.

@Truth Addict Good point! @Matt8800 A psycho thinks it's perfectly moral and rational to murder. Isn't the disaster real? @Barry J Is there such a thing as "full" realization?

@Truth Addict I'm afraid I didn't get the analogy.

So the solution is that the person is charging for his time, expertise and effort, and not for the spiritual aspect of the service. You also can't transfer wisdom, so it's also not a valid currency. Yet I still feel like there's a missing part of the puzzle here.