Anton Rogachevski

Bc hamas was stealing all the money and buying rockets.

@Raze Until 7.10 the blockade was gradually being lifted giving more permits and fishing areas. As we can see it didn't help. The hateful genocidal attack was a religious one, that's why it's called the El Aksa flood. You can't negotiate with terrorists, their whole existence depends on you being an enemy, and if there's no enemy there's no purpose for them to exist.

@Raze IDF left Gaza and painfully expelled Gush Katif, which resulted in Hamas gaining authority and making the lives of Palestinians miserable. They got so much money from Qatar, but it all went to rockets to shoot at civilians. The people of Gaza are killed and tortured by Hamas. Is that actually what tou want to happen in Yehudia Samaria? (It's a fact that 80% support Hamas and they will be elected) Half a million of Israelis live here peacefully along side the Palestinians.

They never wanted us and opposed violently from day one, they refused all deals which involved any part of land given to us. It's a part of Hamas' amendment to erase us from existence. 67' deal was viable in 67', but no deal is ever viable forever. Of course they regret it! Because every time they refuse the next deal gets worse and worse. I'm sorry but I think it's stubbornness, xenophobia and plain stupidity on their part. Israel is full of left wing activists and peace organisation working to solve this. Gay Palestinians get asylum in Israel. When palestinians get a work permit they feel safe to walk in any part of Israel, but an Israeli can't even enter a palestinian village without fear. (There are many cases where Israelis were killed that way) There's no value for human life for them. Sinnuar said to his dentist in prison in one meeting that he would be ok with tens of thousands of palestinians die for his cause. That's exactly what happened - That was the plan! You ignored my question: why doesn't hamas surrender? So much pain and suffering could have been avoided so simply. The meta problem with your arguments is that you don't offer solutions, but only condemn us. But what the fuck can we do now? What would you do if you were the Israeli government? Extreme shia Islam, extreme homophobia, violent segregation of women and the glorification of death are baked into their culture: https://photos.app.goo.gl/DmyAgMNmQ3RkgbuC7

Can't think of one part more relevant than another here.

This debate is newb level, just listen to some pro level Destiny debates. He's a liberal but somehow he sees that Israel is not entirely wrong here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa_kjk5zeE8&t=9499s&pp=ygUORGVzdGlueSBpc3JhZWw%3D

@Leo Gura History is a science. After this is over there should be an investigation to decide that. I'm not informed enough to make any intelligible statements.

Yes a very "good" treatment - shooting rockets, exploding buses, kidnaping babies and decapitating people. (Did I miss anything?) Also the "good" way in which they treat women and gay people. Do you know that they murder women freely for "respect" of the family.

This is gaslighting, saying that all my thoughts are nonsensical. Please elaborate on where you think I'm wrong. Stop looking for the devil outside, you are the devil! Face it, stop trying to justify yourself by not minding your own business.

Your racist mind can't fathom that jewish people can be from many ethnicities. My grandfather was a jew from Poland that fought in the second world war against the Nazis.

We should have two states, and I'm very hopeful the Palestinian Authority will one day be the Palestinian government that can thrive side by side with us, it'a already almost the case, only takes a declaration. The idea was a Jewish state that would be a safe haven for Jewish people, who were homeless for 2000 years and were persecuted for just being jewish. From day one the natives didn't welcome us and didn't respect our identity. What would you do if you were the jewish people before the founding of the state? Would you keep being homeless? Wandering, hoping people won't harm you and won't hate you?

@Leo Gura disagree. There's no other army that did more than us to secure civilian lives. It's a very tragic outcome but Hamas could have given up and handed us the hostages and there would have been 0 civilian casualties.

@Leo Gura they don't pose a security threat anymore, because they've accepted their fate and submitted to you. Now who's gaslighting? What do you do if your neighbors shoot at you? Ask them nicely for peace? I used to think that Yitzhak Rabin was right that we shouldn't have settled the Yehudia Samaria, but if we didn't Hamas would take it over and then 7.10 would come from both sides. Yes I agree it's not fair for the Palestinians that we built Israel on their land, but I don't think there was much choice. Antisemitism didn't go away just yet. The jews of europe before 1933 were trying to let go of their national identity and blend in as you say we should, but hitler opened the records and dug up jewish origins from a couple of generations before. It's a fact that we don't have a home other than Israel. It's our home we want to be safe. And we are peaceful, but it takes two to tango. They don't play ball and hadn't from day one.

The ego says believe the things that confirm your bias the most.

@Leo Gura So your land doesn't belong to you either, and you ethnically cleansed the native americans. It just enough time passed so you can forget it and pretend you are better.

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@Leo Gura To be fair wouldn't we have to have a post with the opposite side's deception? Or are we just looking to blame Israel for everything all the time? You as a person that supposedly excels with detecting self deception must see your heavy bias against Israel, which turns almost into a toxic incitement.

@thedoorsareopen <3 From Israel. Thank you for sharing!

Same as Niv, I'd heard no ideology or politics neither in school nor the army. (I was trained as an armoured forces soldier) There is an amazing and peaceful coexistence where I live in what you call "the west bank" there are Israeli and Palestinian villages across the road from each other, and no conflict. (At least not in my area. I'm aware there are hot spots where settlers do some troubles and it really does suck, and i strongly condemn it) Dear Leo, you're view is highly skewed against Israel and I'm not surprised. What are your thoughts about Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, The Houthis, and Shia Islam in general? Are they the great and good heroes that save the world from israel and the evil west? Your blog post had conveniently ignored all the threats Israel faces and has faced from the beginning. Don't you think the Jewish people deserve a place to call home and to be safe and free? We did all we can to be fair to the native population, but they just won't play ball mostly and it is very sad that it turned out this way. Of course in an ideal world there wouldn't be nationalities and countries or borders(Just like Lennon had envisioned), but we are not there yet unfortunately.

The data unfortunately shows that most of them support hamas and the 7.10 attacks full heartedly. As shameful as B.G is, he is a response to this, and not the other way around.

Just leaving this here:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyMXvAYvRD9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2BSDLFVT74 A new interview with the guy