Razard86

Love you too man, even though I didn't understand some of what you said.

Well I mean now, in your present experience.

Are able to recognize that this is Infinity?

Yeah that is what I said earlier, I can just refuse the question. But the irony is some people are hurt and take it personally that you won't be open about how you feel. You see? What I am pointing to is...you are going to hurt people regardless. If you speak they get hurt, if you don't they get hurt. What I am pointing to is ego's get hurt because they are walking contradictions. If you were to give someone everything they want they will hate you. If you give them barely what they want they will hate you. You literally have to find the perfect balance, and part of that balance is pain. The problem is I am smart enough how to avoid being hurtful, but majority of people I communicate with are not so skillful. If you were to feed people their own medicine they would throw up lol. You just ignored what I said and played ignorant. Everyone knows the truth is painful. If the truth wasn't painful then it wouldn't be hidden. Why does privacy exist? Because secrets are preferable to transparency. Why? Because the more people know about you the more they can use that information to put you down, and use it to control you. This is why governments, and its citizenry hide information. We hide information because we do not trust each other. Because there is a lack of trust, lies are used to protect. As a result the truth becomes dangerous. So notice you have to lie to yourself and tell yourself the story you just did. But the truth is what you said is not true otherwise it would be seen in your direct experience. Notice you just said caution. Caution is the creator of lies. All lies, all secrets, stem from caution. That's my point. You play with the definition of the word true, your definition of the truth is INCONSISTENT and an inconsistency is a lie. Thus your truth is a lie. When did I say telling the truth was saying whatever comes to mind? If I said that....point that out. Also withholding information is called a "Lie of Omission." You know how governments will REDACT a document? So let me ask you....when is it a lie of omission? When are you redacting or censoring the information? Even worse....with your logic if something happens such as the government is secretly breaking the law using your logic I can just choose to "see but not see." So this makes my truth telling conditionally, which makes it inconsistent, which makes it a lie. See the problem? It's not such a simple thing.

Once you gain the ability to see from a Unitive viewpoint, you realize they are all saying the same thing. Sigh.....life has lost its complexity. It's like they are trying so hard to be complex....and it doesn't work. They are just saying the same thing, just a different way.

There are inconsistencies in your own life. If there weren't you would know everything.

Here is the post. Straight to the point. None of the B.S. people spewing on here. Straight to the point.

That's not what ABSOLUTE SOLIPSISM says you keep deceiving yourself and that is why you won't awaken. I have already created an entire thread dedicated to what Solipsism says and explained it and you go around concocting self-deception. Solipsism says there is only ONE EXPERIENCE. Consciousness is ONE!! ! You breakingwall if you are not here, then there are no OTHERS!!! In fact if you want to make more sense, see your body as other, as part of the scenery. If you went to a different dimension with other people...would the people you experience now exist? If they did....then you cannot be the ABSOLUTE. So what Absolute Solipsism is saying you can become conscious that YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE and nothing can exist outside you. You have NEVER experienced other people OUTSIDE your experience because YOU ARE EXPERIENCE ITSELF!!! THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS!!! And it cannot be defeated under any conditions. So how you defeat it...is you deceive yourself about what it says which you just did. But notice once I make the premise....all you can do is IMAGINE in your mind a possibility that it could be wrong. But guess what? You'll never be able to prove it. You might say but what about Leo's Infinity of God's video? That was God...IMAGINING that possibility into existence. But the moment God imagines it...it becomes ONE. So even if there could be other God's, the moment God imagines it...it becomes ONE. That's it!!! Because God is an absolute imagination that can ONLY experience itself.

That happens in dreams and hallucinations. You would have to say other people or beings are equally real in your dreams.

LOL if I tell a man his child just died that would hurt him. If I told a man his wife is cheating on him that will hurt him. If I catch a man in a lie and point it out that will hurt him. The list goes on.....this is not a complicated thing. The most dangerous thing and the most powerful thing is the truth. If you haven't discovered this...then you don't know truth. The truth is a weapon, you have to wield it with discretion.

1. Every POV is self-deluded. This is why you don't even realize that what you are saying is bullshit. Why? Because EVERY POINT OF VIEW IS DELUDED. So is Leo deluded? Of course he is. But so is every POV that will ever exist!!! That's what it means that it is absolutely relative. Because reality is absolutely relative, the only way to have a POV is to be DELUDED! So the moment you take a POV or perspective, you are deluded!!! You haven't yet realized this which is proof of your own delusion!!! 2. What Leo points to is a greater truth. So what does he mean? He means that from his POV he believes he has zoomed out to a greater degree. An example would be if you were only aware of your continent and then he zoomed out and told you we were all on a sphere floating in space. To us he would be crazy until we verified it for ourselves. So what he is pointing to will always appear to be delusional until we verify it. 3. What is the difference between a truth and a lie? Consistency. So your argument is Leo's perspective and argument is inconsistent, as such he is deluded. Leo would say the opposite. But what you don't realize....is your mind creates divisions in reality that become real. For example the only difference between Enlightenment/Non-Duality, versus the Materialist Paradigm is mental conditioning. The Spiritual Path is just another form of mental conditioning or brainwashing that alters your perceptual experience of reality. So then why is Enlightenment referred to as the truth....because it points to the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. The ABSOLUTE TRUTH is true under all conditions whereas the material paradigm is true up to a certain point and then inconsistencies appear. So notice...everyone is arguing from their point of view on what is true and what is not true....not realizing that you first need to understand how you define truth and not true and be consistent with that definition, because people love to CHANGE the definition of what truth is...which makes them liars, because the truth...is consistency. This is the secret....God is an infinite creator, which can create inconsistency, but God itself never changes....it's true nature is unchanging but it can create the appearance of change. The secret is all change is deception, lies, which means there is no difference between anything. Thus God learns through this experience what is the truth and what is a lie. That's all that is going on here. We spend our whole lives experiencing a lie, and then at the end we get to experience the truth and realize....they are one and the same because life is just God lying to itself that it is not God.

1. Many things annoy us, avoiding doing something because it it annoys you is not a valid reason. If you design your life in such a way to avoid annoyances you will have a rude awakening that life does not care if you are annoyed. I get what you are saying but that is not a valid reason. 2. Them wanting someone to support their biases is true of all of us on some level, so I am not different than them in this. For example my annoyance is a result of bias, as I want him to value honesty over a lie. So the only reason me and them have a conflict is due to bias which is the cause of all conflict. I'm not looking to remove their bias as I know they could care less. I'm trying to figure out how I can remove my bias against lies. I have hidden self-righteousness that comes out because I made honesty and integrity an identity so shedding that is an on-going problem. 3. Saying I am not sure...is an attempt to appease them. You are telling me say something to avoid conflict, this is called people pleasing and is an attempt to appease them and me. Also this would be a lie, because if I do have an opinion then saying I am not sure is lying. Now saying I don't know what's right is something I could say...but if I feel I am right that would also be a lie. What I could say is "I don't feel comfortable giving my opinion because of our past experiences." That would be better.

Your on the right track. When they call it death what they mean is it goes offline for a while so the true self emerges, or you can call it the true ego emerges if you want. Then the illusory ego returns of course because you can't live your life without it, but here is the kicker.....what you call ego is just your perspective, your identity. When we talk about being disconnected from truth we are referring to judgment. The Spiritual Path is not about killing your ego, it's about killing it's self-hatred. The more you "die" the more you have the opportunity to reconstruct your ego. Your ego is a CONSTRUCTION. Now this construction was done on autopilot without much of your control because you were a kid and on average it's foundation is put in place by age 7. What you are doing is deconstructing it so you can re-construct it in a way that serves you better in life. Spirituality is basically therapy.

Sigh..... 1. Jesus's parents were told to hide Jesus in Africa. Matthew 2:13. 2. Why were they told to hide in Egpyt? Because the Hebrews were mixed with Egyptian blood. How do we know this? When Jacob whose name was changed to Israel and whose sons were the Fathers of the 10 tribes of Israel, when his sons sold Joseph his second youngest into slavery he eventually became second in command to the Pharoah of Egypt. Because of a famine Israel and his 10 tribes/sons settled in Egypt. Genesis 47:27 : "Now the Israelites settled in Egypt in the region of Goshen. They acquired property there and were fruitful and increased greatly in number." Now we get to Moses. Why was Moses able to raised as an Egyptian Prince? Because Moses like the rest of the Hebrews looked like the Egyptians. Because the Hebrews had lived among the Egyptians and had sex with them and children with them, they became a blended people. Also Moses himself also married what is referred to as a Cushite woman. A woman of African Descent. Numbers 12:1 "Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman." So as we can see the reason Jesus was told to hide in Egypt because he being of Jewish blood has a mixed ancestry with the Egyptians and this made it the perfect hideout. If his parents and he did not look like the Egyptians they would not have successfully been able to blend in. So no Jesus wasn't white. He was a mixture of African and Middle Eastern Descent. Oh and the Romans were a mixed people as well. https://theconversation.com/challenging-the-whiteness-of-classics-remembering-the-black-romans-175180 But this information is hidden for the purposes of racial division.

They aren't you on some level...they are ABSOLUTELY YOU. That's what you don't get. There is ONLY YOU. Also...why are we talking spirituality in a non-spirituality thread?

https://actualized.org/insights/explaining-take-down-new-awakening

It just means nothing ever happened. LOL. That is what that means. Nothing happened at all, or ever has happened.

This ^^^^ good advice.

This man's intuition is sky high. Who knew you could intuit such high understanding without actually experiencing the Consciousness Levels applicable to them. It's interesting. Reality just gets ever more elusive again!! Really can't bind it no matter how much you try, and that is the inherent beauty of it.

Wait he did? Where at?

I believe you. I hope it was fun. Lol I can't wait till you eventually take a psychedelic. THAT is when you will finally understand. Your imagination right now is still human level, I can't wait till you experience God level imagination.

I turn into Goku a lot. But yes he is correct if you haven't done it then you don't know what Consciousness is.

Stan walks down the street and comes to a point where the path splits into two directions. There are two signs one says Infinite Love/Death, the other says Material 3-D Reality. Stan thinks deeply how he wants to seek the truth. He thinks inquisitively 'Why do they call it love? I mean come on!!! Love is just some concept!!" So he wrestles with what he wants to do and while he is thinking he starts walking lost in thought down the path with the sign Material 3-D Reality. As he walks and walks he comes to another path that splits and sees the same two signs again Infinite Love/Death, and 3-D Reality. He states to himself "I really want to know the truth of reality. Maybe if I think long enough eventually I will figure it out," as his body moves on its own and he continues walking down the path of Material 3-D Reality lost in thought. Eventually Stan bumps into someone and greets him "Hey how are ya doing?" The person turns around and its an older man dressed in some colorful garments with a long beard. The person responds "I'm doing fine how about you?" Stan responds "I'm okay but I'm a little confused about something at the moment." The man responds "Well tell me about it and maybe I can help you." Stan looks and sizes the man up and says "I don't want to bother you about it but thanks for asking." The man responds "Are you sure because I've seen you around here before." Stan responds "What do you mean this is my first time here?" The man says "Yeah from your perspective that is true, but from my vantage point you are just walking in circles. Have you not noticed you keep coming across the same two signs?" Stan says "Yeah but I'm clearly moving forward so how am I walking in circles?" The man responds "What's your dilemma maybe I can help you see what I see?" Stan replies "Well I want to know the truth." The man replies "What do you mean by the truth?" Stan says "Well why are we here? What is going on here? The man says "Ahhh the age old questions. I remember when I once had the same questions." Stan's eyes brighten up "Oh great did you find the answers you were looking for?" The man responded "No I did not find the answers I was looking for." Stan replies "Oh then you cannot help me then, I'm on the path to the truth and nothing will stop me from finding it." The man responds "If only it were that simple. Have you not realized that you are deceiving yourself?" Stan responds "What do you mean I am deceiving myself? The man says "Because you think you are searching for the truth but you are not." Stan replies "You don't know me or what I am searching for! Who the hell you think you are!!!" The man replies "You see that is what I am talking about. You think you have it all figured out but you don't even realize that the words that you say and the actions you are taking are INCONGRUENT!!!" Stan replies what does incongruent mean? The man says "In short you say one thing but do another. You claim you are pursuing truth but then asked me if I found the answers I was looking for. I told you no and you thought that was the end of that. But young man when you search for truth you don't look for particular answers. You search with an open mind and if what appears for you is dreadful you take it. If what appears before you is pleasant you take it. You don't search for the truth to be a particular way, you search and what appears over and over is true. The only thing that is true right now is you have been lost in thought walking in circles and I have been standing here the whole time watching you." Stan replies "You creepy old man what do you know!!! I'm on the path of truth what the hell do you know!" The man replies "Your right, why listen to the man who was once in your shoes! Why listen to the man who put these sign posts here to begin with! The very journey you are on I completed! But yes what do I know?" Stan pauses and after awhile replies "You are telling me YOU are the one who posted these signs?" The man smiles and says "Yes they are some beautiful signs are they not?" Stan says "That's besides the point they are a waste of time they don't lead anywhere. I am only walking in circles as you say because your signs are awful. The man states "Is it my signs are awful or is it you are afraid of love?" Stan states "No I'm afraid of death, that's not love that's annihilation!" The man replies "Well then you don't know what love is Stan because when you love something you get so mesmerized that the notion of YOU disappears. Are you telling me Stan you never found something in your life that was worth dedicating every fiber of your being too? Stan replies "Yes my search for the truth." The man chuckles and says "If that were true....you would have died already, why are you still here? You have yet to disappear and that is why I said you don't know love." The man states "You say some interesting things old man. I'll think about what you told me. Then the man bows and continues on his journey of walking the path of 3-D Material Reality. The old man laughs and says "This is the funniest shit I ever seen. I totally get the joke!!! I just told God how to discover what he is and God played dumb thanked me and continued to avoid the answer!!! I told him directly with a sign, I told him indirectly with my statement and he dodge both with ignorance!! This is why God is a miracle!! Because it takes a miracle for God to be so dumb!!!" The old man chuckles and says "Should I make it more obvious by putting on the sign Infinite Love is truth you idiot?" Then he shakes his head and says "Nahh he'll just argue with that too." The man chuckles and says "What God doesn't realize when he is dreaming himself as a human is he can only know truth through observation. Until he admits to himself that he is avoiding the path of death, and that he is walking in circles because the same signs keep popping up, until he admits that he is infinite he will never discover what he is in his human dream. God is a walking contradiction that can only find the truth through consistent observation and recognition and acceptance. Anything less will leave you lost in thought for eternity. It's a good job he set this shit up that one day the path of 3-D Material will turn into death anyway otherwise his dishonest ass will walk forever." Then the man says God is a paradoxical joke whose punchline is death!!!" As he laughs you can hear the boom like thunder...for eternity.

I found another good video to share that Leo posted on his blog years ago. This man is an academic who worked with high doses of LSD to gain Enlightenment. Notice how many of the things he states, mirror stuff I have said, Leo said, and others. Don't let anyone limit you with this genetics limiting belief if you desire Enlightenment authentically from the heart YOU WILL ACHEIVE IT. If you want to live from a non-dual state you can and the methodology you use to reach it is on you. One of the key takeaways he states which I believe is important is he mentions that you need to drop your attachments to things that make you identify as being small. THIS IS THE KEY! Another tip I can give you by using an example. Let's use the video game the Sims!!! Before you construct the Sims...there is nothing. Then you construct the game world and then you put yourself to sleep as the character in the Sims. How would you have to change your perspective from a character in the Sims, to the one who created the whole thing? I feel this might be able to spark some creativity in you, because to deconstruct your identity as a human you will need to be creative!!! Deconstruction which is death is equal to creation!!! You need to access your creativity to destroy.....good luck!! P.S.: I love he discovered what I did about ineffability. You CAN describe these experiences, sure I can't give you the experience in words, but that isn't the point! It's to spark inspiration in you and to help you ground or make sense of the experience in a way that allows you to open up your imagination to what is possible and to help you remain calm when you experience it for yourself! You would say, why doesn't God make it easier...because God is in the business of surprising itself. Only the ego wants to predict, God is in the business of being unpredictable!!!

However you perceive it, that is how you will experience it. When he mentions solipsism he is pointing to the fact that you can never know anything outside your perspective. Your perspective is the Absolute. So if I disintegrated your body you will still exist. Why because you are not the body. Your body is housed within your Point of view not the other way around. Thus if something is not in your direct experience it doesn't exist because you are Absolute Reality. You can argue this point but never disprove it. And if you open your mind to the possibility it will become your reality. So you cannot test it, but you can verify it. Oh and your character is no different than the other characters, it is just something being shown in your Point of view. Don't fall for the trap of thinking your character is more real than other people. Other people are equally as real or unreal as your character. Think of it like this. You are looking at a mirror and talking to yourself no different than a dream. You can close your eyes right now and do it. Your dreams at night are the same as what you call life. So if you think your dreams are fake then life is fake and vice versa.