Razard86

Favorite part is at the 58 minute mark.

Master in a couple things, a complete novice in many others. I'd say what I bolded is true for all of us...well it depends on what you define success as. Because once you reach one mountain top you end up saying "time to find another mountain."

You just did the same with that post you made. **I love this game of self-paradox!!!

She is not the best explainer but she tried her best. But it is a complex web. One of the things that Leo mentioned that I noticed went over a lot of people's heads is how Consciousness gets tangled up in itself. This comes from the lack of awareness that the map and the territory are ONE. Your beliefs and your experience are ONE AND THE SAME. Your beliefs FILTER, MODULATE, SEPERATE, YOUR EXPERIENCE. But notice you can't seperate what filters from what it is filtering. For example, emotions modulate, or impact your experience of something. Is emotions separate from experience? NO!!! So notice how you would have people on the forums tell you or something is just a belief. The pain you feel from a chainsaw cutting your leg off is NO LESS A BELIEF than say a belief in NIHILISM. Now notice what I am communicating here cannot be understand unless you have become aware of this. The power of belief is ABSOLUTE!!! This is why you cannot separate the relative and the Absolute. No separation goes both ways!!! You can separate separation, and you cannot separate it because it never existed in the first place. How do we separate anything? We use words, we use the beliefs to discuss. Now notice you have people who demonize words and beliefs not realizing that words are no different than physical reality. Words are an appearance!! Even SILENCE is an appearance!! Notice how they don't demonize SILENCE. They praise it like its some how different than Sound!! So notice how she said when she clapped that was the past? She is correct in that she asked them what happened, well whatever they say is in the past. Their mind recorded what happened and they recalled it and said it. So whatever is present is present, and the past is a recall of the present that can only exist through memory, and then there is a future which is another form of memory it is a calculation and prediction of the present and the past to predict. So both past and future are imagined. Notice how nobody disputes this. But they want to dispute that the present is being imagined? Do you see these logical fallacies? It's why I keep saying you gotta be honest. Stop creating more stories. GOD CREATED LANGUAGE. Use language in a conscious way. When I talk about humanity I am talking about bias, and unconsciousness. God created language, but the unskillful method of language is NOT GOD. It's God in the human identity. Remember the only difference between God and a human is bias, is honesty, is clarity, is mastery. So language isn't bad, your demonization and bias of language is bad. This is why I say human spirituality is bullshit. Nothing God creates is bad, the only bad is our lack of skill/mastery. P.S. Sound is not a remembrance, its an appearance that happens directly. It's the discussion, the pondering about a sound, the thought about the sound that is a remembrance. Notice the slight corruption in her explanation. She tells you, that you can never see the phone...AS YOU ARE SEEING THE PHONE. And yes if I want I could even make sense out of her crazy conceptualization but it would only serve to confuse you more. You see you can be skillful or unskillful with logic. Her logic is unskillful. You might ask what the is purpose of biased flawed teachers? The purpose is to push you to become your own authority. If a teacher is too good you will get attached and never leave and become lazy and dependent on them. This is why some teachers play games intentionally and create errors intentionally to get you to leave. While some teachers LOVE being teachers so they aim to become so good that nobody leaves. So do you see how life is counter-intuitive? Sometimes you have to be bad on purpose to create good. This is why there is no bad, all things that are quote on quote bad actually serve good. All is in service to good especially when done consciously.

^^^^ It's not even that, forget all that, what you and many people don't understand is whenever you complain you are indirectly communicating with yourself. Notice the key things you said. You said it feels like an avoidance of personal responsibility? Why would it feel that way? Because this is how you currently feel in YOUR LIFE. The endless debates and conversations regarding hypotheticals are not as significant as shit hitting the fan. ^^^^ So from this we can ascertain that you feel like you are wasting too much time on the forums and are using it as an escape from real life. You mentioned something about doing some drug you are scared to do, afraid of madness, and using it as a way to prove you are brave...not sure about that one. But basically what you wrote above is an INDIRECT MESSAGE TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL SELF, that you are sharing with potential others who may resonate with this feeling. This means you currently feel like you are in a rut and are trying to figure out how to get out of it and a part of you feels like taking a break from the forums might be the answer. What do you think? Am I close?

^^^That's definitely the idea. Everything you said is basically what I am doing. Every single word, so much....I wrote this myself to myself. I'm open to suggestions. To the unknown I am am eternal beginner, making educated guesses. If anything I am unskilled in the department of uneducated guesses, going forth with reckless abandon.

Yeah some want to keep the spiritual process mysterious, alluring, to allow the spiritual seeker to discover it on their own. I call this the indirect pointer and I realize its value. But I'm similar to Leo in that I believe if you want people to awaken easier stop making everything so complicated and simplify it. I even thought Leo wasn't direct enough so I aimed to come behind him and simplify it even more. But I won't lie his content does a good job, just like other Spiritual Teachers out there. I believe Ram Dass is very good at speaking about how to embody compassion, I think Mooji is really good at being a living example of compassion, I believe Eckhart Tolle gave a really good explanation for how Free Will works. It took me a long time in grasping that one and I believe his explanation does a better job than Leo's even though both his Free Will videos are great. Leo's contribution that the materialization of reality is equivalent to WILL is a nice way of grounding the phrase "Everything is God's Will." To me the most important message is the only difference between God and a human is humans have bias God has no bias. Now what I discovered is there are two types of biases which obviously are ONE but we will separate to distinguish them. There is what I call conceptual bias which is just a perspective bias, then there is what I call experiential bias. The biggest bias the ego has is experiential bias. It does not feel sane to remove the physical barrier of separation between you and the world. It will feel like a violation worse than rape if God were to ever force a human to undergo it. The contrast we experience when we get used to something is pretty interesting to me. If you live in a room that has its temperature at 90 degrees (32.2 celcius) and you walk outside and its 0 degrees (-17.78 celcius) that experience will be jarring. Its the same when you take a very close-minded selfish person full of trauma and try to wake them up. You can't beat them over the head with a direct message. Some need the slow and steady mysterious message that beats around the bush. The All works through all, giving its diverse message I even realized the confused people are here for a reason to. They are here to help you train your discernment. The people that flip flop serve as a mirror of your own tendency to flip flop as more evidence of the importance of truth. Since you are your own authority you cannot take anything on as a belief in this work. Eventually doubt WILL CREEP IN. I speak from experience, even when I proved everything both conceptually and experientially my ego still tried to create more doubt. So I went balls to the wall and created a test individually for me that ended all doubt. So it's over, I cannot have doubt if I wanted too. I say this to say, no teacher can remove all doubt about Spiritual concepts and their validity only YOU can do it. It's why this work is so powerful it really teaches you how authority works at the highest level.

There are many more than these but that's a good start.

They explain it, the Next Level Soul Podcast guy has many guests who speak about it. They are basically saying there is going to be an increase in Spiritual Awakenings among humanity for those who are open to the process. So they are basically saying we are headed to a major outbreak of awakenings. Now whether it is true or not remains to be seen but that is basically the summation of what they are pointing to.

Truth doesn't imply anything but that it IS!!!! Truth doesn't need relative to IS, it needs relative to be a PARTICULAR IS!!!! That's all that's what you don't get. At this point you are lost in confusion. You keep saying stuff that is noncoherent. Truth implies NOTHING. Get it? It implies nothing, because it IS NOTHING.

If you want a more grounded less complicated approach to the implementation of morality you can look at Martin Luther King. Notice the similarity in some of the stuff I have said about life. Jesus said it, Leo said it, Ghandi, etc. https://www.iwu.edu/mlk/page-5.html#:~:text="If a man has not,and exposes his moral defenses."

I don't think you realize he is determined to be confused. He fears the destruction of all mystery. The more you make sense the more he will tell you that you are deluded and that not making sense is the truth...even though for him now he might as well throw that word away and a lie as well. Its crazy because delusion is a lie but he said that there is no truth or lie and even as crazy as he sounds I could even make it make sense because I am creative enough. But I won't, because it won't be easy to understand for others. But I'll give another pointer since people seem to be confused. Relative Imagination is human imagination. Close your eyes imagine an apple. Okay now look at an apple, that is Absolute Imagination. They are the same thing but one is limited the other is unlimited but notice they sit RIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. You can look at an apple and imagine an apple on top of the apple. Now the issue is you have certain people who don't yet understand that beliefs are =to physicality. I'll explain. Let's say there is a girl who dates 10 men and all of those men verbally insult her over and over and she takes on as a belief that all men do this. As long as she refuses to allow information contrary to this notion SHE WILL EXPERIENCE THIS AS TRUE. You say how do we know this? Come on anybody on spiritual path deals with this with people who have yet to awaken. All your beliefs are a reflection of how you currently experience reality. That is why there are so many claims of gaslighting which is to deny the said experience of another. So explain to me how you can actually believe that you can separate belief from experience? You can't!!! You will say yes I can I can shatter their belief with a different experience. You can!!! But then guess what? You still prove my point. Because if they change their mind its because they got a NEW EXPERIENCE so that belief is just reflecting that experience!!! But also notice, they can deny that experience also if they want!!! Now its delusion if you deny experience....so guess what...to deny someone's belief is NOT their experience is actually to deny experience!!! Because all of our beliefs are what we believe to be true....based on our experience. You will say but I thought you said there were delusions, yes and that is the only way we get confused. Only our denial of our experience is what causes confusion. If you deny nothing and accept everything....the you cannot be deluded. That is the game we are playing.

For fun though I'll deconstruct your arguments. You said I think the word truth is very incorrect to define reality, but you have said over and over that Reality cannot be defined...but now you are saying truth is not a correct definition? So which is it? Then you say it is not a truth or a lie? So what is it? What you don't realize is you gave a definition. Your definition is: it is seeing through the veil of experience, through the veil of the self. what you see is the totality of existence, the great infinite abyss alive. So we can shorten it to this. You believe that reality is a great infinite abyss alive which is neither true or a lie. Also you believe it can be seen as well. Now what you don't realize...is if it is neither true or a lie, it can never gain anything or become aware of anything because if its not true it cannot exist, and if its not a lie it cannot change. So you have denied both aspects of reality, this means you have now effectively gone ABSOLUTE DENIAL. Well Done!!!

........So now you deny the word truth too???? Wow...well hey you doing your thing man. I'll give it to you, you are committed to the path of mystery. You are definitely a true mystic in that regard.

I think they took it down, the recent posted video of another Youtuber is what posted now.

I'll make this simple again....Reality is Absolutely Relative, this means it is equally true on all levels, this means it is also not equally true on all levels as well. It means it is Real. It mean it is Imaginary. It means it is whatever the hell it says it is from ITS PERSPECTIVE. THE END. That's all folks!!! Nothing to see here!!! I killed it all. Welcome to Death. Welcome to Life which is GROUND and YOU CREATE THE GROUND. The GROUND IS YOUR MAP. The GROUNDLESS IS REALITY. And that is it. So how do you search for truth on the relative domain. Whatever has the most frequency is what is most true for that moment in time. So in one era the times will say this is 70% true. Maybe 10 to 100 years later that is now 45% true and something else is 55% true. You see how it goes? So the absolute never changes but to experience itself it must include change. So the measuring stick of truth is frequency, pattern. But Reality must make the pattern hard to find and tricky so you actually have something to do. Otherwise....there is only DEATH. It's so obvious and simple. You only complicate it because what I speak robs you of the mystery of discovering it for yourself.

^^^^Of course from your perspective this must be so!! Because you are your own limit. You cannot see outside your own perspective until you do. It's delusion because you are locked into your perspective. I know what you are saying, but you don't understand what I am saying. So I wonder....who is MORE TRUE? The one that understands more perspectives? Or the one that understands less? Notice...it is delusion to you, because you BELIEVE IT. Notice earlier you said nihilism is ideology, but now you say I speak delusion. How is that NOT an ideology? You see? You keep trying to separate it. You can't!!! Your experience and your belief are one and the same. Why do you think Spirituality is the pursuit of what is true in your experience? You think humanity didn't try their best to seek the truth? You think they just bullshitted their way to materialism? Such delusion!!! If it was that easy to find the truth....they would have found it!!! Why do you think people push psychedelics? Its to give them Enlightenment? Enlightenment shatters the current conceptualization they have of what reality is. That is EXPERIENCE!!! Both believing you have experience and realizing you ARE EXPERIENCE is the same thing!!! But notice....you cannot understand this if you keep creating separation. As such you cannot understand me, no different than an unenlightened person cannot understand you. I understand you, but you don't understand me.

^^^^This is the deep wisdom. But notice this....its only the curious that realize that the universe is taking care of it. Right now on this forum thread we are the Universe discussing what is morality. By the way I do believe every individual must create their own morality, so do not think I am demonizing morality. So what is morality to me? I deem morality to be whatever is in alignment with Universal Will. That is morality to me. So then that creates a question? What is Universal Will? What is it up to? You see? A search for truth must include a desire to understand what Universal Will is? Morality as it is currently understood was just a half-hearted attempt to understand what Goodness is. Do not think reading my posts or anybody's posts is going to give you a clear cut answer. All of us will struggle from our perspective to be good, until a deep surrender and acceptance occurs. The secret is everyone around you is in a struggle to be Good, some are dysfunctional at it and we call them Evil, and some are skilled and masters at it and we call them Good. That's all that is going on. But don't take my word for it, go discover if this is true for you. I proved it to myself both before and after Spirituality but through Spirituality I proved it ABSOLUTELY. With this said it makes PERFECT SENSE if you don't believe that because SUFFERING is the birth of evil. You cannot reconcile there is no evil when you are in the throes of suffering. You cannot walk up to a parent that lost their child to kidnapping and sex slavery and tell her it was for the benefit of the Universe that activity had to happen. They will call you a DEMON, and rightly so from their perspective.

Yeah after the trauma of the ordeal. I'll explain what I mean. Whatever state God is in God is ABSOLUTELY in. So if you enter a state where Jason appears before you with a chainsaw, you are not going to be able to sit down and self-inquiry that away. If you try it, he will get to you and saw your arms off. You will cry in terror and anguish and wish it to stop and probably pass out. Psychedelics reveal why there are people who make claims of demon possession, or why some people who have NDE's go to HELL. Your imagination is so powerful it is TOTAL and ABSOLUTE and as such it is not some easy thing to deconstruct. Spirituality is the scariest thing you can ever delve into. Even experiencing war, rape, etc doesn't compare. Why? You could imagine infinite rape and experience that.....get the picture? There is no limit to the tortures you can imagine. Human reality suffering doesn't compare to the dark places an Infinite Mind can conjure up.

Completely agree.

Don't get to carried away with this lol. I only say this to people who want the truth but are resisting it at the same time. Even though this is all true, logic is very useful and even though its imaginary if someone comes at you with a chainsaw all this its imaginary will fly out the window LOL. In fact if you want a real scare to see how powerful imagination is....you can watch a Jason Movie and imagine Jason coming to murder you and if you reach a high enough state of Consciousness you can imagine Jason actually murdering you lol. And then awaken from that nightmare even though it will have felt real, sometimes even more real in comparison to what you call regular life.

Reality is groundless, to establish a ground reality has to imagine pain and suffering. Remove pain and suffering...and ironically life ceases to exist and everything dies. There is more than one type of death, most think death is annihilation of appearance, think about this....how would you like to walk around in a world that appears DEAD, FAKE, NOT REAL? Pain= Real. You only think cartoon characters are fake because you don't feel any pain connected to them. If Mario appeared in front of you and punched you in the face, and it hurt like hell you wouldn't call him fake. And guess what? You can reach a state of Consciousness where you can conjure Mario right in front of you and he can punch you in the face and it will feel just as real as if I did it to you. THEN you will realize what everyone is talking about. There is only imagination, and imagination is ABSOLUTELY REAL.