Razard86

Go back and rewatch Leo's video on Solipsism and how your bubble and reality works and then look at that link lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD5NZuyAhR0&t=2s

There you go, you got it!!!

That would go both ways. Also if you end up "standing your ground" in regards to the use of a racial slur expect for that event to generate news coverage, possible death threats, and impacting your family and friends all because you want to use a term. Who knows maybe you will become the next George Zimmerman.

How does the word self conjure up the notion of a self relative to other any more than infinity? You do realize infinity...is the largest plurality that can ever be right? So how do you think self can conjure relativity and not infinity?

Don't waste your time, they will awaken when the avatar is gone lol.

If it didn't exist, you would be here to grace us with your wonderful presence. If it didn't exist you wouldn't be able to vent your frustrations. If it didn't exist you wouldn't desire to tell us your frustrations. If it didn't exist....there wouldn't be life at all. All your actions say opposite to what you preach, so I know its all smokescreen. You are just hurting and you want to vent. Its fine, vent away. But actions speak louder than words, and your actions say you love this forum and the opportunity to share your perspective with others.

Totally agree.

1. Even the small awakening can frighten you, especially if you use a psychedelic. For example you know how he says God is ultimate truth? How would you feel if you saw Absolute Truth....and felt fake in comparison? How would you feel if a glimpse of Absolute Truth made you look like Bugs Bunny seeing a human for the first time? 2. How would you feel if it felt like you were dissolving...melting...or about to explode? These are the situations you will be in when you have awakenings...so yeah he needs to warn you...its the scariest thing, and most beautiful thing you will ever see. When you start reaching the levels Leo is talking about...you will feel like your mind is going insane. Its not and it is at the same time. The truth is you got so use to finitude you forgot how infinity felt, so its like someone dropping you on a rollercoaster out of nowhere with no warning. So don't assume yours will be gently, keep dosage low, but be prepared to accept whatever comes....even it turns out to be Hell.

Because of love. That's why.

That's a narrow view of Science. According to Mystics, Yoga and Meditation are Science. Deconstruction is Science as well. So it depends on which culture/part of the world you ask. Its important we mention which particular Science we are referring to.

Your life is like you were hired to play a character and fell to deep in character and some enlightened guru is trying to wake you up and tell you that its just props, and none of it is real and the character you been playing is make believe. Its so funny....the more you keep seeing proof that everything is imaginary...the more funny it gets. Life is HILARIOUS!! People all like, but my suffering, YOU WANT TO SUFFER!! Suffering is great!!! Suffering means you are alive!! If I took away your precious suffering....you would die....its so funny!!! If you take away suffering...people can't live, you literally can't have a life without suffering. This means when you are truly enlightened...YOU ARE DEAD!! HAHAHAH it is so funny!! You need suffering to live!!! This is freaking crazy!!!

Yes. It is a form of science. I believe to go beyond science.... is to stop doing science...and focus on pure imagination. The ultimate level humanity will eventually reach, is to be one with the creator so deeply, that they will eventually be able to bring things into existence through pure imagination. For Science to figure that out...they will have to drop a lot of things.

Yes we are in agreement, Science is a mirror of humanity, as long as humanity is limited in their open-mindedness then Science will too. So if humanity has a problem....then so will Science. You aren't wrong in that Science itself doesn't have a problem...but since its connected to humanity who do in the sense they are closeminded, they wield science in a close-minded way. So in one sense you are correct, and in another you aren't it all depends on which perspective you are looking at it from. But on a metalevel they are ONE so they will mirror each other. With that said....check this video out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Nf3TcMiHo

You aren't getting it. The invention and the creator are one. Your argument is akin to there is nothing wrong with Guns but the ones who use the guns! The user and the gun are one. There is no distinction. So if the user has a problem then the gun has a problem. So the user of the gun is going to use the gun to express their problem. A human's body is their tool, nature's technology is the human body. Do you make a distinction between the psyche of the human and their body? No!! But notice you do this with Science. Science can only exist as long as there are humans to do science, so they are inextricably linked because Science CAME from humans. On a Meta level all came from God but we'll talk from a relative level here. So until Humans use Science properly, Science won't be proper. I will say again you cannot distinguish Science and Human they are one and the same.

Doesn't movies objectify men and draw exaggerated unrealistic expectations of how strong men should be? Do you have no ethical issues with action movies? Notice....what is ethical and what is not?

Rocky...who runs the field of science right now? That should be what you are focused on. Who or what is running the field of science?

Matthew85 what makes you think it won't? Let me ask you....how does someone create something? What do they need to cultivate? The man who invented the pencil had to do what first?

He lost me on this one... Change= time. Without change we wouldn't have time. We invented time to track change. So yeah...doesn't make sense. Time is a created distinction to track the different expressions. It first started with day and night, and then the weather seasons. We use it to track sleep and waking up as well.

Originality is a myth, everything is just a re-interpretation of the same thing. You want a reconstruction? Deconstruct the language you use, because you literally interpret through the language that you use. So if you really want to go to bottom, go all the way, either create new meanings for the words you use, or create another language altogether. But since all knowledge is coming from the same source anyway...then what is original when it comes from the same source? This is just silly delusion. There is nothing new, there has never been anything new, new=Is just a different form of expression of what existed before. If you think new is just a different expression then yeah new exists, but people get lost in delusion thinking that new is something that never existed. That has never been the case.

Don't let him trap you, experience is self, everything is self. The illusion is the separate self, not the illusion of a self. Reality is everything. So its both a self and no self. Ever experience sleep without a dream? Notice? You didn't exist. There was no feeling, no sight, no sound, nothing, not even darkness...there was literally nothing. AND YOU WOKE UP! Well if you woke up, then that means you were still aware. So what was that, that was aware of nothing, of non-existence? The self. What is self? Awareness. You cannot recall a memory of something prior into the present...if you were not aware. This means you are always aware...even when you are no aware. At Death you will unify all that you forgot into one singularity. Because even unconscious awareness is awareness. What is knowledge? Recognition. Recognition of what? Of self. When you learn anything you are just recalling the knowledge of your self. What is self? Identification. So how could I learn you Matthew85 at the highest level? To BECOME YOU. So if the boundary between you and me collapses we become ONE and then we KNOW each other completely with no boundaries. Because there never were boundaries. So knowledge is the dissolution of boundaries, to become one with self, which is self love which is why self-love is the highest teaching.

I wish I read the whole thing...but yeah Osho calls meditation science, and Sadhguru and other Yogi masters have called yoga science. The truth is everyone is a philospher and everyone is a scientist, because everyone believes their perspective is true. Our brain naturally does science, everyday, so a Scientist is usually given that terminology because they are studying nature. The problem with that is everything is nature. There is human nature, their is psychological nature, so what is nature? Nature is just the inherent qualities of something. So as long as you are studying the inherent qualities of anything? You are a Scientist. But yeah I get you are talking about studying the fundamental building blocks of reality. In that sense he uses the word Science to refer to the Western World where we believe we hold the ultimate truth because of our technological gains. Our gains are so strong that we just assume Science is always right most times because the most powerful people in society and around the world give their same authority away to certain Scientists. So it becomes hard as a lay person who may not have engaged in such investigations to know what is true or not. So yeah you are right...but that was the thing Leo has said. There are lots of lesser known Scientists who were mystics but there are currently NO MAINSTREAM Scientists who are OPENLY Mystic. So this is basically the premise of all his attacks on Science its that its currently too biased. Science is a technology and the technology is a reflection of the users.

You died or had a near death experience?

Thank you for telling me your perspective.

I see you like straw man arguments, I could just as easily ask you how do you even know anything? What is knowledge? Since you got everything figured out. Define what knowledge is. No dictionary. Also...how can you comment on assumption....when you don't even know who I am referring to? Do you know who I am referring too? Or are you in a rush to create conflict/debate out of pure boredom? You sure seem to have life figured out don't you?

1. Feminine: Recently reteaching myself the ability to cry. Apparently my logic was so strong, I could repress emotions super fast by using logic to recontextualize a situation and was basically fooling myself into thinking that I didn't have any hidden negative emotions. So learning to check in with my emotions, acknowledging them, and allowing them freedom of expression. 2. Masculine: Contemplation, dissection of concepts, continually updating and modifying of my world map. Continual recreation of the self and being aware of most of it in every moment. 3. Feminine: Applying myself to be a better listener, as I am really a selective listener. I listen when a person talks for deep admissions hidden in shallow speech, I look for patterns of expression to find hidden conclusions being purposefully ignored/denied. Basically my ability to find and catch my own b.s. makes me super keen in being able to catch the b.s. of others. I love how people believe I am naive because of my kindness and I reveal to them...its the other way around. 4. Masculine: I was hard on myself in the past, like an inner personal trainer I was chasing more physical strength, more intellectual understanding, I was trying to become an All-Around Man but I also had a fear of connecting with Woman early on. I had experiences early on in elementary school and middle school where I was rejected publicly and it scarred my psyche. Even to this day...a little bit is still there, but my masculine wants to pretend those scars aren't there and to forge forward. 5. Feminine: I have been integrating this more, it feels like I'm mothering myself. Very interesting and fun. You can really give yourself the love you wanted, in fact....surprisingly...you are actually better at giving yourself the love you desire while others are actually quite terrible at it. The real point of relationships, is being able to be patient as the person learns how to love you and vice versa and simultaneously being able to accept all the idiosyncrasies (weird things) about that individual. I have A LOT of weird things...and I love them!!! 6. Masculine: This part of me is starting to fade....I feel it....and I believe I will bring it back to the front later, but I noticed I am getting softer now, kinder, more gentler, its interesting. I did all my proving my toughness to myself when I was younger. I've been in more physical fights than any non/amateur/professional fighter I know. I've been in even more debates than even the fights. I've proven to myself what I am capable of, so I don't really feel like there is anything left to "prove" to myself and thus I am able to accept myself as a result. For me, I had to prove my worth to myself in order to love myself. 7. Feminine: I'm learning to respect and appreciate the uniqueness and diversity of everything in existence as it is. While I do still struggle in minor ways to accept some things, I have even been teaching myself to accept my resistance as well. So just total acceptance, and being okay with how vulnerable that makes me. I've danced around with vulnerability before in various ways, I seek to do more of that in personal relationships even more.